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BlackOutBuzz · Post #1161 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:51 am

So with Tyrus and Artest getting amnestied, I decided to look up how many players are still amnestiable (is that a word?). Sixteen teams have used the clause thus far, and if they don't use it this week they still have two more seasons to do so. That leaves 30 players on 13 teams that are still eligible (The Pelicans haven't used it, but don't have any eligible players left). Of those 12, I don't see Atlanta (Horford), Boston (Bradley's expiring, Rondo), Memphis (Conley, Randolph), San Antonio (Bonner's expiring, Parker) or Utah (Favors, Hayward) using it at all. Of the rest...

Chicago, Carlos Boozer: The obvious choice, he costs the team over $30m the next two years. (Other eligible players: Noah, Deng).

Detroit, Charlie Villanueva: He's an expiring, so it's possible they hold onto him; but they sure ain't gonna use it on Monroe. (Other eligible player: Monroe)

Miami, Mike Miller: All 6 of their eligible players have player options/ETOs next year, and as the most expensive non-big-3-er, Miller is the obvious choice. (Other eligible players: James, Wade, Bosh, Haslem, Anthony)

Milwaukee, Drew Gooden: They still have Gooden? Geez, get over it already. (Other eligible player: Sanders)

Oklahoma City, Kendrick Perkins: Obvious choice is obvious. Makes over $18m over the next two seasons, but they'll probably hang onto him as long as they don't have a better option at C. (Other eligible players: Durant, Sefolosha, Collison)

Sacramento, John Salmons: Apparently his next season salary isn't fully guaranteed, but still. (Other eligible player: Cousins)

Toronto, Push: Tough call IMO between Amir Johnson and Linas Kleiza. Johnson actually has a role and is a decent player, but costs $13.5m the next two years and Kleiza's $4.6m deal expires after this season. I suppose they could also elect to not use the clause.

So who goes next (possibly even this week)? Boozer's contract is an eyesore but I can see the Bulls keeping the band together for another year, so I'll say Gooden.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1162 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:25 pm

Alex Len underwent successful surgery on his right ankle on Friday.

The Phoenix Suns selected Len with the fifth overall pick in the 2013 NBA Draft.

“As a precautionary measure, our medical staff determined that it would be prudent to perform surgery on Alex Len’s right ankle at this time,” said Lon Babby. “That surgery was successfully completed this morning. As part of a routine evaluation, our medical team identified the very beginnings of a stress fracture in Alex’s right ankle even though Alex was entirely asymptomatic. We expect him to be available to begin the season.”

Thank God we didn't draft that guy.

Edit: This is his other ankle, so now hes having problems with both.

LamarMatic7 · Post #1163 » by **LamarMatic7** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:41 pm

fatlever wrote:AK47 signing with the nets breaks my heart. he is one of my all-time faves. i'm happy he will finally get a chance to go deep in the playoffs, but i hate that its for one of the superteams. and of course everyone suspects some kind of shady russian under the table dealings here. whatever.

People forget the part where almost all of the the teams who had the cap space initially to sign him had already spent their money. I don't suspect the deal to be that shady. Just a veteran player chasing a ring and enjoying the opportunity to join a team owned by a owner of his nationality.

HornetJail · Post #1164 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:42 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Alex Len underwent successful surgery on his right ankle on Friday.

The Phoenix Suns selected Len with the fifth overall pick in the 2013 NBA Draft.

“As a precautionary measure, our medical staff determined that it would be prudent to perform surgery on Alex Len’s right ankle at this time,” said Lon Babby. “That surgery was successfully completed this morning. As part of a routine evaluation, our medical team identified the very beginnings of a stress fracture in Alex’s right ankle even though Alex was entirely asymptomatic. We expect him to be available to begin the season.”

Thank God we didn't draft that guy.

Edit: This is his other ankle, so now hes having problems with both.

Damn, he should be thrilled Phoenix of teams, drafted him.

Post #1165 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:37 am

has any team had a worse summer than the mavs?

1. lose out on howard, paul and every other big free agent they were saving for
2. almost had iggy signed before he changed mind at last minute
3. spent 60 mil on their new backcourt of calderon and ellis, two awful defenders who cant play off the ball
4. 1st round draft pick breaks ankle in summer league

Post #1166 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:00 am

which former bobcat gets signed 1st? augustin, mullens, tyrus or diop

all proof to just how god awful that 2011-12 team was.

just two years removed from that season we could have half that team out of the league or at very least playing on min deals - add brown, white, higgins, najera (all out or close to out of league) and reggie on a small deal in houston.

Marvel · Post #1167 » by **Marvel** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:06 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Alex Len underwent successful surgery on his right ankle on Friday.

The Phoenix Suns selected Len with the fifth overall pick in the 2013 NBA Draft.

“As a precautionary measure, our medical staff determined that it would be prudent to perform surgery on Alex Len’s right ankle at this time,” said Lon Babby. “That surgery was successfully completed this morning. As part of a routine evaluation, our medical team identified the very beginnings of a stress fracture in Alex’s right ankle even though Alex was entirely asymptomatic. We expect him to be available to begin the season.”

Thank God we didn't draft that guy.

Edit: This is his other ankle, so now hes having problems with both.

Damn, he should be thrilled Phoenix of teams, drafted him.

lol watch...Len will be 100% in no time, the Suns medical staff is the best in the league.

Marvel · Post #1168 » by **Marvel** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:19 am

Speaking of former Lolcats players who are MIA...where's Matt 'MC' Carroll at these days?

chrbal · Post #1169 » by **chrbal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:13 pm

fatlever wrote:which former bobcat gets signed 1st? augustin, mullens, tyrus or diop

Thomas has the best chance, followed by Byron and DJ as sort of a "2a" and "2b". Diop will have to wait for major injuries so he can fill in.

Thomas rumor Knicks http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2013 ... _news.html

Mullens had that Laker one. And as his price tag continues to fall I could see it happening. They always look for cheap potential at the end of their bench.

DJs upside is hes 25. But I could see him be anything from a budget backup PG to D-League starter.

Diop is screwed. Personally speaking he should just take the money and retire.

Snidely FC · Post #1170 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:44 pm

The Wit & Wisdom of Dwight Howard

"It means a lot to me just to have a fresh start and have an opportunity to write my own story," Howard said. "I don't think people understood the fact that I got traded to L.A., and now I had a chance to really choose my own destiny, and this is the place where I chose and I'm happy about it."

"I believe in signs ... and when I was in Aspen it seemed like everybody I met was from Houston."

KingExecutive · Post #1171 » by **KingExecutive** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:45 am

Alex Len is having surgery on his other foot now? Suns can't catch a break.

Glad we passed on the cripple. He could potentially be walking with two walking boots. Wouldn't that be a sight!

TheKingofSting · Post #1172 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:17 am

Looks like he is more like Big Z than he would like.

catch20two · Post #1173 » by **catch20two** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:16 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/status/356915884679368704[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/status/356916273050943488[/tweet]

Good thing we didn't try to pursue him. J.R. Smith's career may begin to unravel from this point on

BlackOutBuzz · Post #1174 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:55 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:So who goes next (possibly even this week)? Boozer's contract is an eyesore but I can see the Bulls keeping the band together for another year, so I'll say Gooden.

Well, Gooden did get cut before the deadline today, but it was a few hours after Kleiza and Miller got the ax as well. So with two years left to use the amnesty provision, there are still 7 teams left that can still invoke the clause, and there are 11 players left that could fall victim.

Atlanta: Al Horford
Boston: Rajon Rondo
Chicago: Carlos Boozer, Joakim Noah
Memphis: Mike Conley, Zach Randolph
Oklahoma City: Nick Collison, Kevin Durant, Kendrick Perkins
Sacramento: John Salmons
San Antonio: Tony Parker

Obviously a lot of those guys aren't going anywhere (Horford, Rondo, Noah, Conley, Randolph, Durant, Parker), and if you couple that with the fact that OKC is unlikely to amnesty Collison so long as Perkins is on the roster, then there are really only three players left that are truly in danger of being waived via amnesty: Boozer, Perkins, and Salmons. Detroit and Utah join the Pelicans as teams who haven't used the clause, but no longer have any players they can use it on. Also, a bevy of players escape the clause due to their contracts expiring this year (most notably Villanueva).

EDIT: And after looking over Salmons' contract, I see only $1mil of his $7mil 2014 salary is guaranteed. So, they could either cut him, pay him $1mil with a cap hit of $1mil; or they could amnesty him, pay him the full $7mil but have no cap hit. I'm thinking they might go with the former, so the only likely amnesty-able players next year would be Boozer and Perkins. Alright, I'm done yapping about this until next year

Post #1175 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:17 pm

augustin to the raptors for 1.3 mil for one year.

he wins the former bobcats race

at least the raptors are used to bad defense with calderon.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #1176 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:42 pm

Wouldn't Reggie have won?

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lmcguir5 · Post #1177 » by **lmcguir5** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:21 am

Anyone have any idea as to where Brandon Jennings is going to end up? Seems like it would be awfully awkward for the Bucks to ask him to come back after trying to give Teague his job

amcoolio · Post #1178 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:42 am

fatlever wrote:augustin to the raptors for 1.3 mil for one year.

he wins the former bobcats race

at least the raptors are used to bad defense with calderon.

How much is DJ hating life for turning down that 4 year extension?

We dodged a major bullet on that one.

Post #1179 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:44 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:Wouldn't Reggie have won?

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technically yes. it was after reggie signed i asked the question which of augustin, tyrus, mullens or diop would be the 1st to sign a contract.

catch20two · Post #1180 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:53 am

lmcguir5 wrote:Anyone have any idea as to where Brandon Jennings is going to end up? Seems like it would be awfully awkward for the Bucks to ask him to come back after trying to give Teague his job

As awkward as it will be, he'll have no choice but to return to Milwaukee on the QO. At least that's my guess. I can see them trading him midseason before he walk on them next summer though.