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[mhectorgato]

I missed the 1st half did anyone catch how Moe played? I read someone say he played "bad" but what I saw in the box score just shows he didn't take many shots.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

He was disinterested and unmotivated. He might as well taken the night off.

Nobody can take your comments about moe seriously since you've had it out for him since Orlando traded for him.

@RygoBOOM- No he didn't play well but Aaron and Vuc were and the focus offensively as they seemed to be playing well along with Nicholson. Hark played with energy, played good defense as he normally does his performance just didn't stand out on the box score. He wasn't maliciously taking the night off as thelead is implying.

Really? I must have been watching a different game. Not sure if it was the matchup or him, but he hardly made an impact while out there. I remember only noticing him for one play (was it a dunk?)

[MellowRose]

I'm not too worried about Afflalo as our go to scorer. They're just showcasing him for a trade.

If I was a GM, I'd only trade for Afflalo based on his play in Denver. He's been **** since he's come here.


I really wish we had done a Afflalo for Bledsoe trade. My wet dream.

[MellowRose]

He was disinterested and unmotivated. He might as well taken the night off.

Nobody can take your comments about moe seriously since you've had it out for him since Orlando traded for him.

@RygoBOOM- No he didn't play well but Aaron and Vuc were and the focus offensively as they seemed to be playing well along with Nicholson. Hark played with energy, played good defense as he normally does his performance just didn't stand out on the box score. He wasn't maliciously taking the night off as thelead is implying.

2pts, 1 reb, 1 ast in 20 minutes is not an okay game. Like I said, he might as well taken the night off. The guy has to play with energy and he didn't. He is an athletic freak, there is no reason for him to get only 1 rebound.

Totally agree. 1 rebound in 20 minutes for somebody with his length and height is shameful ****.

[Blue_and_Whte]

He was disinterested and unmotivated. He might as well taken the night off.

Nobody can take your comments about moe seriously since you've had it out for him since Orlando traded for him.

@RygoBOOM- No he didn't play well but Aaron and Vuc were and the focus offensively as they seemed to be playing well along with Nicholson. Hark played with energy, played good defense as he normally does his performance just didn't stand out on the box score. He wasn't maliciously taking the night off as thelead is implying.

Really? I must have been watching a different game. Not sure if it was the matchup or him, but he hardly made an impact while out there. I remember only noticing him for one play (was it a dunk?)

It was a **** game no doubt but I don't think he purposely took the night off. It just wasn't an impactful game. imo. Honestly I was more interested in watching Nicholson work as he kinda flew over everyone's radar.

[mhectorgato]

I'm not too worried about Afflalo as our go to scorer. They're just showcasing him for a trade.

If I was a GM, I'd only trade for Afflalo based on his play in Denver. He's been **** since he's come here.

I really wish we had done a Afflalo for Bledsoe trade. My wet dream.

He seems to better suited to a #2 role - unless he would just stop with the whole Kobe/Jordan mindset.

[Blue_and_Whte]

He was disinterested and unmotivated. He might as well taken the night off.

Nobody can take your comments about moe seriously since you've had it out for him since Orlando traded for him.

@RygoBOOM- No he didn't play well but Aaron and Vuc were and the focus offensively as they seemed to be playing well along with Nicholson. Hark played with energy, played good defense as he normally does his performance just didn't stand out on the box score. He wasn't maliciously taking the night off as thelead is implying.

2pts, 1 reb, 1 ast in 20 minutes is not an okay game. Like I said, he might as well taken the night off. The guy has to play with energy and he didn't. He is an athletic freak, there is no reason for him to get only 1 rebound.

I didnt say it was an okay game. I think it was a horrid game for him.

[Neon1]

I missed the 1st half did anyone catch how Moe played? I read someone say he played "bad" but what I saw in the box score just shows he didn't take many shots.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

He was disinterested and unmotivated. He might as well taken the night off.

Nobody can take your comments about moe seriously since you've had it out for him since Orlando traded for him.

@RygoBOOM- No he didn't play well but Aaron and Vuc were and the focus offensively as they seemed to be playing well along with Nicholson. Hark played with energy, played good defense as he normally does his performance just didn't stand out on the box score. He wasn't maliciously taking the night off as thelead is implying.

Well likewise that nobody can take your comments seriously either since you refuse to acknowledge what the guy said as accurate (even if you were only admitting for one single game).


@RygoBOOM you want a recap?

1st-16th mins: 0-2 0-1 0-0 0pts 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1tov 2fls
17th-19th mins: Jameer stole the ball then passed it to him on the fast break for a dunk. Then he got a defensive rebound and at some point in there he must have gotten an assist.

The end.

And again, he was not even playing particularly good individual defense (aka stuff not in the box score etc)
At some point you guys have to acknowledge that when I say these things about my critique's of Harkless game/tendencies that I am not just spouting off random made up crap with no validity to them.

[BadMofoPimp]

I bet the Wolves could use a player like Afflalo. I hope he was showcasing himself for them. Anyways, I am happy he played a good game. It was fun to watch until the end of the 4th and overtime when he reverted back to old Aflac.

[IllMagic04]

Well... it was a good game at least. I thought AA and jameer looked sharp. I personally wanted to see Dipo get the ball when the game was on the line. I want him to get used to be being the go to guy though it was good to see him knock down those free throws to go up 3. AA could really help a contender who needs a 2 gaurd. I personally like AA alot. I wish we coud have had him while we were still contending. But clearly there no need for him on a rebuilding effort. I think OKC or Memphis should call us to try to aquire AA. Not sure what they would be wiling to trade though.

[BadMofoPimp]

Well... it was a good game at least. I thought AA and jameer looked sharp. I personally wanted to see Dipo get the ball when the game was on the line. I want him to get used to be being the go to guy though it was good to see him knock down those free throws to go up 3. AA could really help a contender who needs a 2 gaurd. I personally like AA alot. I wish we coud have had him while we were still contending. But clearly there no need for him on a rebuilding effort. I think OKC or Memphis should call us to try to aquire AA. Not sure what they would be wiling to trade though.

I would consider Ed Davis.

[NickAnderson]

I'm not too worried about Afflalo as our go to scorer. They're just showcasing him for a trade.

If I was a GM, I'd only trade for Afflalo based on his play in Denver. He's been **** since he's come here.


I really wish we had done a Afflalo for Bledsoe trade. My wet dream.

Really he's been ****? I don't really like AA that much but he hasn't been that bad considering he's been asked to be the first option when he is a 3rd option at best on a contender.


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[NickAnderson]

Nobody can take your comments about moe seriously since you've had it out for him since Orlando traded for him.

@RygoBOOM- No he didn't play well but Aaron and Vuc were and the focus offensively as they seemed to be playing well along with Nicholson. Hark played with energy, played good defense as he normally does his performance just didn't stand out on the box score. He wasn't maliciously taking the night off as thelead is implying.

Really? I must have been watching a different game. Not sure if it was the matchup or him, but he hardly made an impact while out there. I remember only noticing him for one play (was it a dunk?)

It was a **** game no doubt but I don't think he purposely took the night off. It just wasn't an impactful game. imo. Honestly I was more interested in watching Nicholson work as he kinda flew over everyone's radar.

Come on man!! These guys aren't allowed to have bad games!!! He's already 20 years old!!

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[MellowRose]

I'm not too worried about Afflalo as our go to scorer. They're just showcasing him for a trade.

If I was a GM, I'd only trade for Afflalo based on his play in Denver. He's been **** since he's come here.


I really wish we had done a Afflalo for Bledsoe trade. My wet dream.

Really he's been ****? I don't really like AA that much but he hasn't been that bad considering he's been asked to be the first option when he is a 3rd option at best on a contender.


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IMO, no matter which way you cut it, his stint with us hasn't helped his trade value any. It has only hurt him.

[BadMofoPimp]

Come on man!! These guys aren't allowed to have bad games!!! He's already 20 years old!!

I expect a game like this from a 19 year old, but not from a 20 year old seasoned vet! What is wrong with Hark. May need to trade him for a pick we can develop! Even BBD has off games. Sheesh!

[MellowRose]

Come on man!! These guys aren't allowed to have bad games!!! He's already 20 years old!!

I expect a game like this from a 19 year old, but not from a 20 year old seasoned vet! What is wrong with Hark. May need to trade him for a pick we can develop! Even BBD has off games. Sheesh!

Are you sure the BBD part should be in green?

lol

[IllMagic04]

Well... it was a good game at least. I thought AA and jameer looked sharp. I personally wanted to see Dipo get the ball when the game was on the line. I want him to get used to be being the go to guy though it was good to see him knock down those free throws to go up 3. AA could really help a contender who needs a 2 gaurd. I personally like AA alot. I wish we coud have had him while we were still contending. But clearly there no need for him on a rebuilding effort. I think OKC or Memphis should call us to try to aquire AA. Not sure what they would be wiling to trade though.

I would consider Ed Davis.

Me too but is he a 3 or a 4? We got alot of PF'S right now. I'd rather have some sort of a draft pick. I know everyone is holding on to 2014 picks but maybe a 2015?

[Neon1]

Well... it was a good game at least. I thought AA and jameer looked sharp. I personally wanted to see Dipo get the ball when the game was on the line. I want him to get used to be being the go to guy though it was good to see him knock down those free throws to go up 3. AA could really help a contender who needs a 2 gaurd. I personally like AA alot. I wish we coud have had him while we were still contending. But clearly there no need for him on a rebuilding effort. I think OKC or Memphis should call us to try to aquire AA. Not sure what they would be wiling to trade though.

I would consider Ed Davis.

Me too but is he a 3 or a 4? We got alot of PF'S right now. I'd rather have some sort of a draft pick. I know everyone is holding on to 2014 picks but maybe a 2015?

He is a PF/C

[j_n]

As much as it hurts to come this close to a win and end up losing, last night was a perfect game for us.
We had guys like Afflalo and Jameer playing well and raising their trade value while we still got the loss and got one step closer to a top 5 pick in a great draft.

[Neato]

these sarcastic responses about moe do make me chuckle in a good way, but really when I think about it he's shown enough times that he disappears more than I would like. there's enough there to start making evaluations imo. this isn't to say that he can't change especially if involvement simply turns out to be the key here.

[IllMagic04]

As much as it hurts to come this close to a win and end up losing, last night was a perfect game for us.
We had guys like Afflalo and Jameer playing well and raising their trade value while we still got the loss and got one step closer to a top 5 pick in a great draft.

Do you want to trade Meer though? I really don't unless he wants to be traded. I want him to retire with us especially since he signed back with us knowing we were goning to suck. I kinda want to keep him.