Pre-Season GMAT: Discussion

[up n under]

From Chicago:

1. LAC: Very talented and very deep. Also very old and very slow, and I’d like to see Ryan Anderson starting next to Duncan rather than Big Al.

just updated with minute distribution, but my ideology was to start both Duncan and Jefferson, then have Anderson relieve 1 of them. Duncan and Jefferson would make up all the mins at the 5. While Jefferson and Anderson will cover the 4.

[SCourGe OF GoD]

who is doing FA?

[DerrickNoah]

1-Warriors-elite d at pg,c and one the wing with iggy. Best bench in the game too
2-Heat-cruise control for the season,they are made for the playoffs
3-Bulls-I can see this team cruising through the season but ALOT is hinging on Pau's play...
4-Pistons-love the starting 5's balance and a great bench but I just don't know if LMA can lead a team deep
5-Pacers-LeBron won 60 games with worse Cleveland teams but I don't see the pg play being great and we've never seen Lebron win without wade and bosh so I'm not confident he can.
6-Clippers-deep,experienced and will share the load
7-Thunder-If demar can play off rose drawing the d I think he could be the key. Gasol will put in work down low but lacks a big man to be paired with.
8-Pelicans-Davis will have a breakout year. Hes the best under 25 player to build around
9-Rockets-cuz Kobe and Dwight worked so well last season. The talent is there I just don't see it being much different than last season in LA

Kinger- you must be high to think my Rockets don't even get home court advantage in the playoffs. You are hatin! for example.... You rank Chicago 3rd overall. Wtf?
Rondo > Teague
Kobe = Harden
MKG = Butler
Dirk > Gasol
Dwight > Noah
Chicago does have a better bench but my bench is very much underrated. All five back-ups are former starters in this league (Hinrich/Green/Diaw/Mullens/Anthony)
1 & 2 are good but my team dominates 4-8. This is bull!


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[MadNESS]

Not that it matters at this point, but...

Enes Kanter through two games now (finally getting consistent minutes and starting)

Is averaging 17 ppg, 11rbg, on 44% from the floor.

That's far from "bust" numbers lmao.

He's as legit as they get as a prospect. He was buried behind Millsap, Jeffeson and Favors.

Now with the PT and the keys to the center position, you will see.

Watch the league, not the names. Holla.

Again, this has nothing to do with anything other then the fact people don't really know the entire NBA.

[PDXKnight]

29. Celtics
28. Lakers
27. Sixers
26. Raptors
25. Jazz
24. Bobcats
23.Mavs
22. Wolves
21. Magic
20. Blazers
19. Kings
18. Hawks
17. Wizards
16. Spurs
15. Grizzlies
14. Suns
13. Pelicans
12. Nets
11. Knicks
10.Cavs
9. Pistons
8. Bucks
7. Clippers
6. Warriors
5.Pacers
4.Thunder
3. Bulls
2. Heat
1. Rockets

[Kinger95]

1-Warriors-elite d at pg,c and one the wing with iggy. Best bench in the game too
2-Heat-cruise control for the season,they are made for the playoffs
3-Bulls-I can see this team cruising through the season but ALOT is hinging on Pau's play...
4-Pistons-love the starting 5's balance and a great bench but I just don't know if LMA can lead a team deep
5-Pacers-LeBron won 60 games with worse Cleveland teams but I don't see the pg play being great and we've never seen Lebron win without wade and bosh so I'm not confident he can.
6-Clippers-deep,experienced and will share the load
7-Thunder-If demar can play off rose drawing the d I think he could be the key. Gasol will put in work down low but lacks a big man to be paired with.
8-Pelicans-Davis will have a breakout year. Hes the best under 25 player to build around
9-Rockets-cuz Kobe and Dwight worked so well last season. The talent is there I just don't see it being much different than last season in LA

Kinger- you must be high to think my Rockets don't even get home court advantage in the playoffs. You are hatin! for example.... You rank Chicago 3rd overall. Wtf?
Rondo > Teague
Kobe = Harden
MKG = Butler
Dirk > Gasol
Dwight > Noah
Chicago does have a better bench but my bench is very much underrated. All five back-ups are former starters in this league (Hinrich/Green/Diaw/Mullens/Anthony)
1 & 2 are good but my team dominates 4-8. This is bull!


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I was gonna rank u a little higher cuz like I said your team oozes talent but it's the fact that u combined Dwight with Kobe back up and they hate each other. Your backcourt of rondo and Kobe are both not even playing at the moment from both having very serious injurys. Add that up with an aging dirk a mediocre bench and mkg who shot 27% on jump shots last year and I think 5th in the west after all that sounded about right. These are regular season rankings and the west is tough dude. I actually think your a really good gm but this team has some flaws like other gm's also pointed out.you'll do fine in the playoffs

[cainepelicans]

Interesting to see how I am getting ranked. If you take a closer look at my roster you can see that most of the vets are at the end of the bench. We are trying to develop some potential players but you never know, Terry can come out and score 30 in 10 minutes.

[MadNESS]

who is doing FA?

You know the answer to this.

[DerrickNoah]

Not that it matters at this point, but...

Enes Kanter through two games now (finally getting consistent minutes and starting)

Is averaging 17 ppg, 11rbg, on 44% from the floor.

That's far from "bust" numbers lmao.

He's as legit as they get as a prospect. He was buried behind Millsap, Jeffeson and Favors.

Now with the PT and the keys to the center position, you will see.

Watch the league, not the names. Holla.

Again, this has nothing to do with anything other then the fact people don't really know the entire NBA.

you love reminding everyone how smart you are. If Kanter is so great, then why the hell did u trade him?


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[Warriorfan]

BKN Rankings

Based on how many games each team would win. Least to most. Pacific is the toughest divison and Atlantic the weakest.

29. Celtics28. Lakers27. Sixers26. Raptors25. Jazz24. Bobcats23.Mavs22. Wolves21. Magic20. Blazers19. Kings18. Hawks17. Wizards16. Spurs15. Grizzlies14. Suns13. Pelicans12. Nets11. Knicks10.Cavs9. Pistons8. Bucks7. Clippers6. Warriors5.Pacers4.Thunder3. Bulls2. Heat1. Rockets - See more at: viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1277520&start=540#sthash.0FgkpqeU.dpu

1) Heat Still team to beat in a weak division
2) Thunder talented need bench
3) Rockets Start slow with Kobe and Rondo rehab but will finish strong
4) Bulls nice balance
5) Pacers Lebron takes you a long way
6) GS Toughest divison only reason down this far.
7) Clippers Good balance
8) Mil 4 potential all stars
9) Cavs
10) Pistons
11) Knicks great future.
12) Kingstough Division
13 Pelicans
14 Spurs Durant is a great start
15 Den strange mix of players
16 Timberwolves have CP3
17 Wizards
18 Grizzlies need time
19 Hawks Have a post scorer to build on
20 Suns
21Blazers Young squad
22 ORl youth movement
23 Mavs odd assembly
24 bobcats Have a home town star
25 Lakers Need to rebuild
26 Raptors have a centerpiece
27 Jazz Some young players
28 76ers Tanking strategy
29 CelticsMighty have fallen

[Dan Verze]

29. Celtics
28. Lakers
27. Sixers
26. Raptors
25. Jazz
24. Bobcats
23.Mavs
22. Wolves
21. Magic
20. Blazers
19. Kings
18. Hawks
17. Wizards
16. Nuggets
15. Grizzlies
14. Suns
13. Pelicans
12. Nets
11. Knicks
10.Cavs
9. Pistons
8. Spurs
7. Clippers
6. Warriors
5.Pacers
4.Thunder
3. Bulls
2. Heat
1. Rockets

[DerrickNoah]

Ness- I like you as a person but, at times, you show a lack of professionalism and integrity as a GM & commissioner. You show favoritism and hold personal grudges with anyone who disagrees with you. That bull with Willy was a classic bully mentality tactic. The commish can not be peer pressuring others and dishing out indirect threats. You should not be running Free agency because your ability to be biased is clearly in question. We obviously need a 3rd party making the final say so IMO


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[WillyJakkz]

Not that it matters at this point, but...

Enes Kanter through two games now (finally getting consistent minutes and starting)

Is averaging 17 ppg, 11rbg, on 44% from the floor.

That's far from "bust" numbers lmao.

He's as legit as they get as a prospect. He was buried behind Millsap, Jeffeson and Favors.

Now with the PT and the keys to the center position, you will see.

Watch the league, not the names. Holla.

Again, this has nothing to do with anything other then the fact people don't really know the entire NBA.

Not sure this was directed at me due to our Kanter Controversy but it seems like it.

8-22 against Suns Miles Plumlee and Co, team is 0-2, one could even say his poor shooting performance cost them the game against Phx. Putting up good numbers on improving bad young team ain't worth Ty Lawson.

Doesn't mean he's a scrub either. Oh yeah, League Pass...Holla back

[RR9]

1. Heat
2. Rockets
3. Bulls
4 Clippers
5 Warriors

6 Cavs
7 Pacers
8 Pistons
9 Knicks
10 Bucks

11 Hornets
12 Kings
13 Wizards
14 Blazers
15 Nets

16 Grizzlies
17 Suns
18 Magic
19 Timberwolves
20 Spurs

21 Mavericks
22 Hawks
23 Nuggets
24 Bobcats
25 Raptors

26 76ers
27 Jazz
28 Lakers
29 Celtics

[WillyJakkz]

@RR9:

I appreciate you feel I have the 9th best team but can't lie, Spurs w Kevin Durant @ 20 behind some of the teams ranked ahead of them?...?

It is an opinion though and can't knock it.

[MadNESS]

I need more rankings. Only have about 10/12

[sterncohen]

Kinger- you must be high to think my Rockets don't even get home court advantage in the playoffs. You are hatin! for example.... You rank Chicago 3rd overall. Wtf?
Rondo > Teague
Kobe = Harden
MKG = Butler
Dirk > Gasol
Dwight > Noah
Chicago does have a better bench but my bench is very much underrated. All five back-ups are former starters in this league (Hinrich/Green/Diaw/Mullens/Anthony)
1 & 2 are good but my team dominates 4-8. This is bull!

Whoa.

Houston is going to spend something like half the season with a starting backcourt of Kirk Hinrich and Willie Green.

MKG=Butler? I'm having trouble remembering which playoff series it was when Kidd-Gilchrist defended LBJ as well as anyone in the league, played 48 minutes a game, and made a major contribution on offense.

Playoff time. Let's assume that Kobe and Rondo are both back and both somewhere close to full strength. These starting lineups are still very, very close. Maybe Houston outscores Chicago by two or three points when all the starters are on the floor. Maybe not.

Here are the benches, with expected win shares.

Chicago - Ilyasova 7.0, Ginobili, 6.6, Koufos 2.4, Dunleavy 2.2, Carter-Williams 0.6 - total 18.8
Houston - Bonner 1.6, Mullens 0.0, Green -0.1, Diaw -0.1, Hinrich -0.2 - total 1.2

Who's guarding Ginobili? Who's defending Ilyasova at the 3-point line? Who's defending the paint? And remember, these guys have got to play - you're not going to get 40 minutes a game out of Kobe and Dirk, even in the playoffs.

I'd like to watch this series. And I say Chicago wins it.

[poopdamoop]

1. Miami
2. Houston
3. LAC
4. Chicago
5. Golden State
6. Cleveland
7. Indiana
8. Detroit
9. OKC
10. Milwaukee
11. New Orleans
12. New York
13. Sacramento
14. Brooklyn
15. Washington
16. San Antonio
17. Phoenix
18. Portland
19. Minnesota
20. Denver
21. Orlando
22. Atlanta
23. Charlotte
24. Memphis
25. Philadelphia
26. Toronto
27. Utah
28. Boston
29. LAL

[up n under]

Opting out isn't very Duncan-like at this stage in his career, especially since he's on a contending team.

[UK-Raptor]

1. Miami - Well balanced, nice value back for Lebron, get a couple guys who stick around for some more years.
2. Indiana - LBJ with some nice pieces around him. May struggle to keep him around though, now or nothing!
3. LAC - Old but good depth.
4. Chicago - Nicely rounded.
5. Houston - I think they will challenge but I'm not too sure, could struggle with injuries.
6. OKC - D Rose and Gasol are two great players, worried about their lack of PF and depth however.
7. Cleveland - Some good players but not sure about RW at SG. Also a really bad bench.
8. Brooklyn - Really fancy their chances as a surprise package, solid starters and some great depth with youth too.
9. New York - Like this blend of youth and experience, could surprise early on in this redevelopment.
10. Detroit - Good individual players, unsure of their experience in the playoffs.

11. San Antonio
12. Milwaukee
13. Sacramento
14. New Orleans
15. Washington
16. Portland
17. Minnesota
18. Phoenix
19. Denver
20. Atlanta
21. Orlando
22. Memphis
23. Utah
24. Charlotte
25. Toronto
26. Boston
27. Philadelphia
28. Dallas
29. LAL