Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII

[XonezIOIzenoX]

I'm trying to get a sense of your future projected lineup.

In terms of promising young players, I see these guys in your core:

Victor Oladipo
Moe Harkless
Tobias Harris
Andrew Nicholson
Nikola Vucevic

In the opinion of Magic fans, do you see Oladipo as the future 1 or the future 2?

I'm envisioning a scenario in which the Magic get the fourth pick.

Wiggins/Parker/Randle have all been selected. Now if you choose Exum or Smart, do you feel there is a risk of redundancy when combined with Oladipo? In such a scenario, how would Magic fans like the team to make their selection?

No redundancy at all. It's early, but I still have yet to see how Oladipo will become a PG long-term. He has to learn on the job and prove that he can pull it off before I have any faith in that idea. I don't mind the experiment since we're rebuilding and it gives VO an opportunity to improve his ball handling under pressure, playmaking, and reading defenses, all things that will pay off for him whether he plays 1 or 2. I think bringing in someone with real PG instincts like Exum would really piece this team together well. Oladipo and Harris could worry more about attacking consistently, while the PG seeks to feed the mouths on this team.

Exum
Oladipo
Harris
Nicholson
Vucevic

but...but he's been playing basketball his whole life. What you see is what you get, he won't improve. Isn't that how it works?

I didnt skip anything. It's right there in my OP.

Although I'm not sure what bolding the question from a random fan really proves. I think we do need a better defender than Tobias at the 4, although the downgrade defensively at the 3 would be significant.

So Tobias can't defend the 4 and seemingly can't play with other scorers.... Interesting. Really hoping this guy turns into the player everyone is expecting him to be.....

Tobias can't play with other scorers? Where'd that come from? He doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective.

Are you...are you being serious right now?

I had to on the last quote.

[Blue_and_Whte]

No redundancy at all. It's early, but I still have yet to see how Oladipo will become a PG long-term. He has to learn on the job and prove that he can pull it off before I have any faith in that idea. I don't mind the experiment since we're rebuilding and it gives VO an opportunity to improve his ball handling under pressure, playmaking, and reading defenses, all things that will pay off for him whether he plays 1 or 2. I think bringing in someone with real PG instincts like Exum would really piece this team together well. Oladipo and Harris could worry more about attacking consistently, while the PG seeks to feed the mouths on this team.

Exum
Oladipo
Harris
Nicholson
Vucevic

but...but he's been playing basketball his whole life. What you see is what you get, he won't improve. Isn't that how it works?

Tobias can't play with other scorers? Where'd that come from? He doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective.

Are you...are you being serious right now?

I had to on the last quote.

Its amazing what people say..Anyway, for the record I'm not 100% certain that tobias cant play with other scorers, its just a hunch based on his time in Milwaukee and a point that another poster had made in reference to Tobias, Aaron and Jameer coexisting.

Of course some people have their Tobias glasses shoved so far up their asses they immediately think I'm bashing when all I'm doing is making a statement. Careful not to comment on Harris outside declaring him a **** HOF'er or you'll get flammed.

[MellowRose]

19.7 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.4 apg, shooting 45% from the field and 47% from 3 and has PER of 18.48. Why we hating on Afflalo?

Because he thinks he's Kobe, Rose, Westbrook, Lebron all wrapped into one. Just watch him play and think of one of those dudes I mentioned above. He's bound to be playing like one of them except that he'll be bricking when he does try to emulate.
I also hate the two man game that Jameer and AA seem to play almost everytime.

Pretty sure he is asked to be our go to guy and I seriously doubt he thinks he's Kobe etc.

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LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

[MellowRose]

I wonder how a Bledsoe/Oladipo backcourt would be doing right now?

Dats what I'm talking 'bout!!!

[Neon1]

LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

Half the time is 50%.....

[thelead]

Because he thinks he's Kobe, Rose, Westbrook, Lebron all wrapped into one. Just watch him play and think of one of those dudes I mentioned above. He's bound to be playing like one of them except that he'll be bricking when he does try to emulate.
I also hate the two man game that Jameer and AA seem to play almost everytime.

Pretty sure he is asked to be our go to guy and I seriously doubt he thinks he's Kobe etc.

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LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

He's been very good this year though. You have to give him credit for working on his game.

[NickAnderson]

Because he thinks he's Kobe, Rose, Westbrook, Lebron all wrapped into one. Just watch him play and think of one of those dudes I mentioned above. He's bound to be playing like one of them except that he'll be bricking when he does try to emulate.
I also hate the two man game that Jameer and AA seem to play almost everytime.

Pretty sure he is asked to be our go to guy and I seriously doubt he thinks he's Kobe etc.

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LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

50% is good... Give the man some credit, he's been a big piece in the games we've won this year.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Because he thinks he's Kobe, Rose, Westbrook, Lebron all wrapped into one. Just watch him play and think of one of those dudes I mentioned above. He's bound to be playing like one of them except that he'll be bricking when he does try to emulate.
I also hate the two man game that Jameer and AA seem to play almost everytime.

Pretty sure he is asked to be our go to guy and I seriously doubt he thinks he's Kobe etc.

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LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

oh right.. Because most players hit that shot at an 80% clip.... I forgot.


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[MellowRose]

Pretty sure he is asked to be our go to guy and I seriously doubt he thinks he's Kobe etc.

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LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

oh right.. Because most players hit that shot at an 80% clip.... I forgot.


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lol, didnt know you guys were gonna take "half" that literally.

Why even take that shot in the first place? Only logical reason is that he thinks he's Kobe.

[MellowRose]

Pretty sure he is asked to be our go to guy and I seriously doubt he thinks he's Kobe etc.

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LOL have you seen his post up fadeaway **** game? He bricks half the **** time. And then when he goes in and drives he does this triple pump action which leads to him missing.

I watch him for that comedic effects. LOL.

50% is good... Give the man some credit, he's been a big piece in the games we've won this year.

He has improved and I can't give him as much **** as I could've last year, but I still don't like his style of play.

[Neon1]

Why even take that shot in the first place? Only logical reason is that he thinks he's Kobe.

Do you think Kobe invented the post up/fadeaway? Other players are allowed to use it. Why even take that shot? Really? That's irrational hating.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VcA2QZEFU[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLDkLJKauDU[/youtube]

[MellowRose]

Why even take that shot in the first place? Only logical reason is that he thinks he's Kobe.

Do you think Kobe invented the post up/fadeaway? Other players are allowed to use it. Why even take that shot? Really? That's irrational hating.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VcA2QZEFU[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLDkLJKauDU[/youtube]

Kobe, Jordan, Wade all equal same thing - ELITE players, which AA is NOT. I know Kobe didn't invent the fadeaway or any of that, but he's the only one who consistently does it in today's game maybe along with Wade.

Point being, AA thinks he can take stupid ass shots only because he's on a crappy team. I never watched him in Denver, but did he ever play this iso ball kobe/wade/rose/lebron ****?

[woosah]

Kobe, Jordan, Wade all equal same thing - ELITE players, which AA is NOT. I know Kobe didn't invent the fadeaway or any of that, but he's the only one who consistently does it in today's game maybe along with Wade.

Point being, AA thinks he can take stupid ass shots only because he's on a crappy team. I never watched him in Denver, but did he ever play this iso ball kobe/wade/rose/lebron ****?

No he didn't play like that in Denver, and no AA doesn't think he's on the same level as Kobe etc...


Idk why people are trying to reason with you. You don't have to like the guy but goodness you are exaggerating.

[Neon1]

Kobe, Jordan, Wade all equal same thing - ELITE players, which AA is NOT. I know Kobe didn't invent the fadeaway or any of that, but he's the only one who consistently does it in today's game maybe along with Wade.

Point being, AA thinks he can take stupid ass shots only because he's on a crappy team. I never watched him in Denver, but did he ever play this iso ball kobe/wade/rose/lebron ****?

How is it a stupid shot when he makes the shot at a decent clip? You do not have to be a HOF to shoot a fadeaway out of a post up. Fading away out of the post is a common shot for a smaller post player. You are just straight up being silly.

[Orlwillbeback]

Tom Haberstroh just said he thinks MCW's jumper is a fluke and still expects Oladipo to win ROY

[Neon1]

Rehab with Big Baby...via Tobias InstagramVid

http://statigr.am/p/586946361954896380_ ... 80_8715481

[MellowRose]

Kobe, Jordan, Wade all equal same thing - ELITE players, which AA is NOT. I know Kobe didn't invent the fadeaway or any of that, but he's the only one who consistently does it in today's game maybe along with Wade.

Point being, AA thinks he can take stupid ass shots only because he's on a crappy team. I never watched him in Denver, but did he ever play this iso ball kobe/wade/rose/lebron ****?

No he didn't play like that in Denver, and no AA doesn't think he's on the same level as Kobe etc...


Idk why people are trying to reason with you. You don't have to like the guy but goodness you are exaggerating.

Game today. I'll try and post something everytime he does some stupid **** and count how many times he threw up some ****.

[MellowRose]

Kobe, Jordan, Wade all equal same thing - ELITE players, which AA is NOT. I know Kobe didn't invent the fadeaway or any of that, but he's the only one who consistently does it in today's game maybe along with Wade.

Point being, AA thinks he can take stupid ass shots only because he's on a crappy team. I never watched him in Denver, but did he ever play this iso ball kobe/wade/rose/lebron ****?

How is it a stupid shot when he makes the shot at a decent clip? You do not have to be a HOF to shoot a fadeaway out of a post up. Fading away out of the post is a common shot for a smaller post player. You are just straight up being silly.

Define decent.

[BadMofoPimp]

Tom Haberstroh just said he thinks MCW's jumper is a fluke and still expects Oladipo to win ROY

There are 82 games in an NBA season. There have been many rookies who started on crappy teams for their rookie season who never won ROY like DJ Augustin who never amount to anything. Not saying MCW is not legit, but I most backup PG's in this league can put up decent stats given 30 plus MPG.

[Komodo]

Where will Nelson end up? Very few teams needs PGs, and even fewer playoff teams need do. It'll be hard to match salaries. I guess Hennigan is waiting for a playoff team's PG to get injured because I can't see the demand or return being good. A crappy expiring plus a second is probable unless someone's desperate. Patience could pay off, but I can't see too many teams wanting Nelson or being able to match the salaries. I think they should either just trade him for a different crappy expiring at a different position to pave way for VO to enter the SL or simply start playing him more off the bench.