John Wall is the best PG in the East right now

[B-easy]

Apparently wall is still injured.
Why don't they just sit him? it's obviously effecting his game.

[Dat2U]

Apparently wall is still injured.
Why don't they just sit him? it's obviously effecting his game.

LOL, sitting Wall is the equivalent of tanking considering the options behind him. I doubt our ability to win a single game with Temple & Maynor running the show.

[hands11]

Apparently wall is still injured.
Why don't they just sit him? it's obviously effecting his game.

LOL, sitting Wall is the equivalent of tanking considering the options behind him. I doubt our ability to win a single game with Temple & Maynor running the show.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278224

And just for icing on the cake, Maynor was on OKCs bench

[montestewart]

Apparently wall is still injured.
Why don't they just sit him? it's obviously effecting his game.

LOL, sitting Wall is the equivalent of tanking considering the options behind him. I doubt our ability to win a single game with Temple & Maynor running the show.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278224

And just for icing on the cake, Maynor was on OKCs bench

Temple & Price, on the other hand, can beat an OKC here and there.

[Dark Faze]

super relieved to hear that its apparently spasms that are affecting him

Thinking back, his play noticably slipped as soon as that injury happened and he hasn't been the same since. Really really nice to have a legit reason to point to his poor play as of late.

I'd rather sit him and let him get right at this point, I think Temple can handle some of the PG duties.

[tontoz]

Without Wall there is nobody to break down the defense and create open shots. That would certainly give the tank a turbo boost.

Sit Wall! Long Live The Tank!

[dobrojim]

Am I the only one who saw Wall find a WIDE OPEN guy time after time in the first half last night just to see a brick?

He could have easily had 13 assists at halftime last night, and the Wizards would have won. Many of them were corners threes, also.

no you are not the only one who saw that.

Wall had a poor shooting night but we still should have won if Beal, Webster etal
shoot more like they usually do. We would've won if Beal simply takes the breakaway
in for 2. It was a fluke the way we lost. And the refs didn't help us Sat night either.

But it still feels WAY too much like last year. Way too much.

[Ruzious]

8th seed at all costs! So what if they over-use Wall and cause him to lose his explosiveness. He's always got his jump shot to fall back on.

[Brenice]

It seems like when Washington and Wall get off to a good start and lead with momentum, they sub out the starters, and eventually the 2nd unit blows the lead, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, lose momentum. Then, the starters stay out as the opponent gains confidence.

Does anyone else notice Wall's chest pumping always happen in the first quarter? That's become a sure sign that the team, led by Wall, thinks the game is over with 3 quarters left to play.

[Zonkerbl]

Yeah, time after time the starters leave the game with a lead and the bench squanders it.

It's just super hard to win basketball games when your starters have to outscore the other team's starters by ten for you to have a chance.

God, can't believe how crappy our bench is. What's the plus minus on our starters vs. the rest of the team? I bet it's abysmal.

Lessee, Wall-Beal-Ariza-Nene-Gortat is +37 in 96 minutes. +37!!!

http://www.82games.com/1314/1314WAS2.HTM

If I'm doing this right, all the other lineups combined have a cumulative +/- of -53 in 262 minutes.

Holy mother of suck, batman!

In the 67 minutes that Wall has not been on the floor, the team has a +/- of -18.

Wow, in the 102 minutes that Harrington has been on the floor, the team has accumulated a +/- of -43.

So apparently he's the culprit?

[nate33]

Yeah, time after time the starters leave the game with a lead and the bench squanders it.

It's just super hard to win basketball games when your starters have to outscore the other team's starters by ten for you to have a chance.

God, can't believe how crappy our bench is. What's the plus minus on our starters vs. the rest of the team? I bet it's abysmal.

Lessee, Wall-Beal-Ariza-Nene-Gortat is +37 in 96 minutes. +37!!!

http://www.82games.com/1314/1314WAS2.HTM

If I'm doing this right, all the other lineups combined have a cumulative +/- of -53 in 262 minutes.

Holy mother of suck, batman!

In the 67 minutes that Wall has not been on the floor, the team has a +/- of -18.

Wow, in the 102 minutes that Harrington has been on the floor, the team has accumulated a +/- of -43.

So apparently he's the culprit?

If you think that's something, take a look at Beal's numbers.

In the 360 minutes Beal has been on the court, the team is +15, or +0.6 per 100 possessions. That is, we're a slightly above .500 ball club against a pretty tough schedule. In the 86 minutes Beal has sat, the team is -56; or -32.5 per 100 possessions!

[Nivek]

I think you can do pretty much the same analysis with all the starters. When the starters are in the game, they're a decent team. Without any one of the starters, they're terrible.

[Zonkerbl]

Had never even occurred to me that weakness of our backup shooting guard would be a weakness but yeah. Who is it? Apparently it's Webster?

Holy cow, the team is -36 in the 44 minutes Webster has played the two (he shares the court with Ariza in all those minutes), -11 with Maynor and -25 with Wall. That experiment has been a dismal failure, I think.

[Nivek]

This is the post where I caution against reaching any conclusions from small sample size +/- or on/off data.

[Zonkerbl]

Ok. Well, the facts speak for themselves. This team sucks because its bench sucks. The bench sucks because EG's drafting sucks. Despite his ability to put together a decent starting five (and only decent, it's no great shakes), EG's failure in terms of Vesely and Singleton (and to a lesser extent Seraphin and Booker) are the reason why this team is struggling.

Surprising just how bad the team is with Booker and Webster on the floor together. Booker and Ariza are +11 (in 48 minutes), Booker and Webster are -16 (in 15 minutes). Webster looks terrible but he also has had to play a lot with Harrington, who has been abysmal, and almost all of Vesely's minutes have come with Webster on the floor.

Ugh.

Ugh, ugh, ugh.

[nate33]

This is the post where I caution against reaching any conclusions from small sample size +/- or on/off data.

Yeah. It's really just for the comedy right now.

[Nivek]

The team also sucks because it's "stars" aren't doing enough. They have enough productive players to be at least decent. But, they need someone to step up and provide significant (meaning All-Star level -- even if it doesn't come with the accolade) production. I projected them to be a playoff team this season, but that was anticipating continued improvement from Wall, and something closer to career norm production from Nene and Gortat (even anticipating aging effects). None of those three have been good enough.

So, their frontline players are holding their own, basically, but they fall apart when they go to the bench -- especially when they're forced to use Maynor, Harrington and Seraphin.

[Dat2U]

Yeah, time after time the starters leave the game with a lead and the bench squanders it.

It's just super hard to win basketball games when your starters have to outscore the other team's starters by ten for you to have a chance.

God, can't believe how crappy our bench is. What's the plus minus on our starters vs. the rest of the team? I bet it's abysmal.

Lessee, Wall-Beal-Ariza-Nene-Gortat is +37 in 96 minutes. +37!!!

http://www.82games.com/1314/1314WAS2.HTM

If I'm doing this right, all the other lineups combined have a cumulative +/- of -53 in 262 minutes.

Holy mother of suck, batman!

In the 67 minutes that Wall has not been on the floor, the team has a +/- of -18.

Wow, in the 102 minutes that Harrington has been on the floor, the team has accumulated a +/- of -43.

So apparently he's the culprit?

Nope, apparently Wall (back issues or not) is the culprit...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/jo ... story.html

Let Jason Reid and half the Wiz board tell it, it falls mainly on Wall.

[jeffsays]

John knows that he needs to start attacking the basket again. I hope he stays true to his word tomorrow.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/11/18/ ... s-shooting

[hands11]

Without Wall there is nobody to break down the defense and create open shots. That would certainly give the tank a turbo boost.

Sit Wall! Long Live The Tank!