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Re: Marcin Gortat Polish Hammer appreciation thread. 

Post#41 » by montestewart » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:16 am

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
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Gortat does look a bit clumsy at times. I will need to see more of him but i am starting to think he might not be as good as i expected him to be.


Is he overpaid?


Currently? Absolutely not. He's actually been very underpaid based on what he did during this contract. He's a huge bargain at 7.8 million per.

He's worth 10 to 11 million per year. That's probably low even.

That's a fair appraisal, but the Wizards have a pattern of striking right before the iron gets cold. They've really got to stop tying up $10-15 million a year on players with high likelihoods of declining.
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Post#42 » by Hypnotizer » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:22 am

There were rumours (before Okafor/Gortat trade) OKC may be interested in Perkins/Gortat trade. I'm not sure if they still need Polish Hammer while they drafted Adams and how much they could offer to him.

Gortat is at the moment 7th in blocks per game and 12th in rbp in the league.
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Re: Marcin Gortat Polish Hammer appreciation thread. 

Post#43 » by stevemcqueen1 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:51 pm

Hypnotizer wrote:There were rumours (before Okafor/Gortat trade) OKC may be interested in Perkins/Gortat trade. I'm not sure if they still need Polish Hammer while they drafted Adams and how much they could offer to him.

Gortat is at the moment 7th in blocks per game and 12th in rbp in the league.


OKC would have had to include far more than Perkins to get that deal done. Perkins is horrible. He has negative trade value. And he's on the hook for 9 million next year.
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Re: Marcin Gortat Polish Hammer appreciation thread. 

Post#44 » by rockymac52 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:05 am

Gortat's best talent is his ability in the pick and roll. However, that's going completely to waste with us this year.

Wall and Beal are both straight up bad at running the pick and roll, both as the shooter and the passer. We gave Beal a pass on this last season because he was a rookie and a SG, so it was understandable that he wouldn't be good in the pick and roll, at least in the short-term.

Wall has no excuses though. In the past he's been awful at running the pick and roll, but on the bright side, he didn't have any big men on the team that were actually good in the pick and roll. However, Gortat is truly one of the best big men in the pick and roll, so that excuse no longer applies for Wall. To be fair, they didn't have an opportunity to play together during training camp, so you could argue that it's hard for them to mesh this quickly. Also, Wittman probably wasn't running many pick and roll plays in practice all training camp because until we got Gortat, there wasn't any big man worth running pick and roll plays with. Nevertheless, this is a problem, and it needs to change.

Gortat is a solid all-around player, but there's no doubt that his biggest strength is in the pick and roll. If we don't try and get him more looks in the pick and roll, then we're doing a huge disservice to Gortat, Wall, and pretty much everyone with any semblance of a rooting interest in the team. Imagine having Rip Hamilton and not running any plays for him coming off screens. It's illogical, and a complete waste of talent. The fact that we'd do this after trading a fairly valuable asset for him, as well as the fact that he's expiring and this could very well end up being his only year in DC, only makes it worse.

Gortat has still managed to be pretty efficient in the pick and roll when he gets the opportunity, despite Wall, Beal, and Maynor's ineffectiveness in the pick and roll. However, he can be even better with a decent pick and roll PG. At the very least, we need to get him MORE looks, even if Wall and Beal never become good in the pick and roll (although that does make me wonder if it's even possible for a team to be a championship contender without having at least one guard who is even average in the pick and roll - especially when your best two players are your PG and SG).

I'll also add that having Eric Maynor who is truly awful in the pick and roll instead of AJ Price who was very good in the pick and roll last season really rubs salt in the wound. Even if Wall struggles in the pick and roll, it would've been nice to pair up Price and Gortat for stretches of the game and let them go to work in the pick and roll. They would've been a very good two man offense.
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Re: Marcin Gortat Polish Hammer appreciation thread. 

Post#45 » by 80sballboy » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:06 pm

The only good news is that if we continue play like this we can trade him to a playoff contender for a mid-to-late first-round pick next season. But with our luck, we'll be a few games back of the last spot in Feb. and there's no way EG gives up.
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Post#46 » by WizarDynasty » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:10 pm

Nene Gortat combination is amazing. I sincerely hope that we keep him. This is the best powerforward/ center combo in Washington's History. If i could sign Gortat to an extension right now, because he fits this team perfectly, especially with NENE.
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Rock on Gortat. We know you are going to have some stinkers, but you are the best center is Washington's History so far.
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Re: Marcin Gortat Polish Hammer appreciation thread. 

Post#47 » by verbal8 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:24 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Nene Gortat combination is amazing. I sincerely hope that we keep him. This is the best powerforward/ center combo in Washington's History.

Webber and Howard were better. Unseld/Hayes if you want to go old school.


WizarDynasty wrote:Rock on Gortat. We know you are going to have some stinkers, but you are the best center is Washington's History so far.

I can think of 3 that were better: Webber, Moses Malone(even if he wasn't in his prime) and Wes Unseld.
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Post#48 » by Nivek » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:29 pm

Can't believe you guys have forgotten about the Charles Jones / Harvey Grant frontline.

Youngsters. :nonono:
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Post#49 » by AFM » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:33 pm

WizD's new sig blow my mind
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Post#50 » by Ruzious » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:36 pm

verbal8 wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:Nene Gortat combination is amazing. I sincerely hope that we keep him. This is the best powerforward/ center combo in Washington's History.

Webber and Howard were better. Unseld/Hayes if you want to go old school.


WizarDynasty wrote:Rock on Gortat. We know you are going to have some stinkers, but you are the best center is Washington's History so far.

I can think of 3 that were better: Webber, Moses Malone(even if he wasn't in his prime) and Wes Unseld.

They were before my time, but real old school are the late great Walt "Bells" Bellamy and Gus "Honeycomb" Johnson.
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Post#51 » by tontoz » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:39 pm

AFM wrote:WizD's new sig blow my mind



I am a bit upset with myself for not copying and pasting his sigs somewhere. They have all been gems. If i made a post just with his past sigs i might have had a chance to get into the HOF for the first time.
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Post#52 » by Nivek » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:21 pm

tontoz -- You should start a thread. Update every time WizD changes his sig. They definitely should be memorialized somewhere.
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Post#53 » by AFM » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:41 pm

I'm sure we could use Google's cache feature to go back and look at them.
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Post#54 » by AFM » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:44 pm

My favorite of his was "Definition of a wizard: all wizards possess elite explosiveness, can dribble behind the knee at full sprint..." etc
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Post#55 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:06 pm

Ruland/Mahorn

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Post#56 » by tontoz » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:11 pm

I loved the last one he had. He was dogging Wall and then he ended with "BOOO Overpaid".

I am going to have to start saving them somewhere.

And what does this mean for location under his name? "NO more post from me until you fix it!!"
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Post#57 » by AFM » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:34 pm

There was an issue of being able to search posts by username. He thought it was limited to just to his username, like there was some conspiracy to stop members from searching for his posts. I think it was just a general board bug, but he said he wouldn't post until they fixed it.
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Post#58 » by tontoz » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:47 pm

AFM wrote:There was an issue of being able to search posts by username. He thought it was limited to just to his username, like there was some conspiracy to stop members from searching for his posts. I think it was just a general board bug, but he said he wouldn't post until they fixed it.



LOL that is a potent threat. I am sure the programmers snapped to attention immediately.
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Post#59 » by gaspar » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:09 am

The Polish (Quote) Machine FTW!

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Post#60 » by dopawcia » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:19 am

Latest mix of Gortat's 2012-2013 season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlxnuxRC ... e=youtu.be

Gortat in Shaqtin' A Fool :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHq72xUOvg4

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