Official Trade Thread - Part XXV

[pcbothwel]

Hmm. You guys may be on to something as an alternative to what has previously been talked about. Assuming we renounce everyone we will have about 17M available assuming we keep maynor(I think we'll be at 43.9M and the Cap is about 61M, right?) Say we sign Gorat to a 3yr/36M and structure it 17/9.5/9.5. I think this team competes the next 3 years and then go into 2016 with about 50M in committed salary and roughly 65-66.5M as the Salary Cap...So about 15-17M in cap space and the following lineup(Not including our 2015 & 2016 1st):

Wall
Beal/Webster
Porter/Webster
???
Gortat

Some of the possible FA bigman that year..Roy Hibbert, Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Brook Lopez, Andre Drummond, Jonas Valanciunas, Anthony Davis, Durant
Even with that said, Gortat and Webster would be expiring.

[verbal8]

Hmm. You guys may be on to something as an alternative to what has previously been talked about. Assuming we renounce everyone we will have about 17M available assuming we keep maynor(I think we'll be at 43.9M and the Cap is about 61M, right?) Say we sign Gorat to a 3yr/36M and structure it 17/9.5/9.5.

You can't put a yearly decrease more than 7.5% into a new contract. Extensions can drop up to 40%, but have to be agreed to before the current deal expires. I am not opposed to signing Gortat for 2 years, assuming it is not possible to acquire Monroe. I think $10 million/year is probably the ball park to keep Gortat.

[pcbothwel]

Hmm. You guys may be on to something as an alternative to what has previously been talked about. Assuming we renounce everyone we will have about 17M available assuming we keep maynor(I think we'll be at 43.9M and the Cap is about 61M, right?) Say we sign Gorat to a 3yr/36M and structure it 17/9.5/9.5.

You can't put a yearly decrease more than 7.5% into a new contract. Extensions have more flexibility, but have to be agreed to before the current deal expires. I am not opposed to signing Gortat for 2 years, assuming it is not possible to acquire Monroe. I think $10 million/year is probably the ball park to keep Gortat.

Ahhh. So it only works with an extension, but Gortat can only sign an extention for so much more than he currently makes, right? which means its a catch 22 and our best option would be to just sign him as I do not see him signing an extension for less than 10M.

[dckingsfan]

Everyone wants to trade Ariza, but isn't he worth keeping? And if so, at what price?

[verbal8]

Everyone wants to trade Ariza, but isn't he worth keeping? And if so, at what price?

I think the thoughts with trading him is he is worth more to someone else, either in terms of years or money. If he gets the full 4 years he can be offered, I don't think the Wizards can/should go much above $4 million.

[dckingsfan]

Everyone wants to trade Ariza, but isn't he worth keeping? And if so, at what price?

I think the thoughts with trading him is he is worth more to someone else, either in terms of years or money. If he gets the full 4 years he can be offered, I don't think the Wizards can/should go much above $4 million.

Interesting, I kind of thing $5M - but that is pretty close. I would have said $4M until Webster got $5M.

[deneem4]

Faried/galanari/ai trade exception
For
Nene/Ariza/2014 2nd

Gives nuggets theyre post option and galanari off theyre hands for a chance at a star sf...rudy gay?

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Uh. Denver dumped Nene just two seasons ago.

If they were interested in taking him back, those flying pigs would be looking for a safe place to land in hell, which would have frozen over,

[Ruzious]

Uh. Denver dumped Nene just two seasons ago.

If they were interested in taking him back, those flying pigs would be looking for a safe place to land in hell, which would have frozen over,

Remember, an Ernie Grunfeld disciple took over GMing the Nuggets this year. Anything is possible there.

[noworriesinmd]

Uh. Denver dumped Nene just two seasons ago.

If they were interested in taking him back, those flying pigs would be looking for a safe place to land in hell, which would have frozen over,

LMAO!

[montestewart]

Uh. Denver dumped Nene just two seasons ago.

If they were interested in taking him back, those flying pigs would be looking for a safe place to land in hell, which would have frozen over,

Remember, an Ernie Grunfeld disciple took over GMing the Nuggets this year. Anything is possible there.

One thing you can take away from working under EG to help guide your future success: "Don't do things the way The Big ErG did them."

[verbal8]

Uh. Denver dumped Nene just two seasons ago.

If they were interested in taking him back, those flying pigs would be looking for a safe place to land in hell, which would have frozen over,

Remember, an Ernie Grunfeld disciple took over GMing the Nuggets this year. Anything is possible there.

One thing you can take away from working under EG to help guide your future success: "Don't do things the way The Big ErG did them."

It looks like 1/2 the Denver moves have been EG moves, the others show learning from EG

EG moves:
sold 1st round pick essentially
Dealt Kofus for Darrell Arthur

average player, average money:
signed JJ Hickson

learned from EG:
let Iggy walk(may have been the best option)
signed Nate Robinson - this one looks like a good move, he has struggled early, but he is a lot better than Maynor on an identical contract

[deneem4]

Uh. Denver dumped Nene just two seasons ago.

If they were interested in taking him back, those flying pigs would be looking for a safe place to land in hell, which would have frozen over,

Different coach he didn't fit offense...hes perfect for this new offense and his value is at an all time high...next to javale he can be pretty good considering he can slack on defense n be the only real low post option

[mhd]

How much better would we look if we had Nate Robinson? Robinson would have provided instant offense off the bench, the ability to break down a defense, and the ability to play alongside any of our other guards (Wall, Beal, and even Temple).

[Nivek]

average player, average money:
signed JJ Hickson

Maybe. Last season, Hickson was terrific. Now we find out if he's a one-hit wonder. Given his age and experience (last year was his 4th season and he just turned 25), my guess is that last season was his "figured it out year" and that he's going to end up as a major bargain for the Nuggets.

[stevemcqueen1]

Hickson scored and rebounded last year and he was a greater waiver pick up for my fantasy team. But he was a big reason Portland was so awful defensively and they've gotten way better by replacing him with Robin Lopez.

He's a very specific type of role player. You don't want to play him a ton of minutes and you have to play him next to a really strong defensive big or else your team is going to lose a lot.

[Jay81]

Now with rose out for the year..how about we trade them maynor for a 6th rounder in the 2071 draft

[payitforward]

Now with rose out for the year..how about we trade them maynor for a 6th rounder in the 2071 draft

I'm for it. I've been using dlts20's crystal ball, and it says that in 2071 we are going to win 82 games!

Unfortunately, by then it's a 1600 game season, and all games are played virtually as fantasy and real basketball have merged.

Note that in 2071 Ernie is still our GM.

[nate33]

Note that in 2071 Ernie is still our GM.

[jivelikenice]

Seraphin for Bayless works. Memphis will need front our help with Gasol down. Both contracts are expiring....