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Juke Skywalker - The Kemba Walker Thread II

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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#481 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:24 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Also the offense runs through McBob a little more than I'd like. I'd much rather see Kemba do more of the distributing than McRoberts.


I can't disagree with this assessment. It's becoming mundane watching Josh McRoberts facilitate the offense as Kemba & Henderson shimmy shake while faking backdoor cuts only to come and take a handoff from him until the shot clock is near zero. It's gotten to the point where McRoberts defender is just zoning off the paint to prevent Kemba from penetrating, and basically daring McRoberts to take the 3-pointer. I like McRoberts ability to pass, but it should be a seldom benefit instead of a focal point
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#482 » by HornetJail » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:29 pm

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Biz Gilwalker wrote:Also the offense runs through McBob a little more than I'd like. I'd much rather see Kemba do more of the distributing than McRoberts.


I can't disagree with this assessment. It's becoming mundane watching Josh McRoberts facilitate the offense as Kemba & Henderson shimmy shake while faking backdoor cuts only to come and take a handoff from him until the shot clock is near zero. It's gotten to the point where McRoberts defender is just zoning off the paint to prevent Kemba from penetrating, and basically daring McRoberts to take the 3-pointer. I like McRoberts ability to pass, but it should be a seldom benefit instead of a focal point

Exactly. I liked how McBob was used last year. Occasionally bringing the ball up the court, would sometimes have the ball in his hands at the top of the key to make plays, but the ball was in Kemba's hands most of the time. There are too many times this season where I get the feeling that McBob has the ball a little too much. His passing is great to have, but he's not a real point forward or anything. I'd trust Kemba with the ball 9.9 times out of 10 over McBob
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#483 » by Amateur Wannabe » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:54 pm

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Amateur Wannabe wrote:Kemba maybe isn't next... Isiah Thomas or someone... but for him to be a much better passer, he'd need some offense to pass the ball to. With Bobcats best scoring options being Kemba, Walker, Kemba Walker, Hendo, and Sessions... it's tough to be great passer out there with league's least scoring offense :( Not only that he can't get assists given the circumstances, but he also has to take forced shots, which hurts his fg% badly.

And that's what we brought Big Al in for. Kemba's assists will jump once Jefferson is healthy. Also the offense runs through McBob a little more than I'd like. I'd much rather see Kemba do more of the distributing than McRoberts.


Of course. Furthermore, it's not top secret actually that Bobcats need one more pure shooter. 3pt % is nearly league's worst, but I guess the management is just not willing to unprotect that "Bulls" pick :tooth
So they've started building the core with Big Al, and will add firepower once Ben Gordon is out. With Al settling in, these youngsters becomng more and more confident and cap space used properly, Kemba is going to blossom. I just love watching kind of confidence he's playing with already.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#484 » by Snidely FC » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:32 am

Kemba is not running this offense at all right now. Is it because he doesn't know how to drive and kick, is it because he doesn't know how to pick and roll? Is it Clifford's offense that's the problem, or is it Kemba?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#485 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:38 am

Snidely FC wrote:Kemba is not running this offense at all right now. Is it because he doesn't know how to drive and kick, is it because he doesn't know how to pick and roll? Is it Clifford's offense that's the problem, or is it Kemba?


According to MySynergySports, Kemba was pretty good in pick & roll situations, scoring .87 points per play (32nd in the league). It's just that this year the offense has been out of his hands a lot, going through Josh McRoberts. From what I've been seeing, it seems like McRoberts dictates whom he want to play handoff/pick & pop with, and that has essentially been the half court offense so far this season. There need to be some kind of tweak on the offense they're running because it's not working. No one is getting open except McRoberts, which is basically playing right into the opposing defense's hands
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#486 » by JDR720 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:28 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Kemba is not running this offense at all right now. Is it because he doesn't know how to drive and kick, is it because he doesn't know how to pick and roll? Is it Clifford's offense that's the problem, or is it Kemba?

its being run through McBob to much, he has the ball more than Kemba on most plays not counting bringing the ball up
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#487 » by catch20two » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:47 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Kemba is not running this offense at all right now. Is it because he doesn't know how to drive and kick, is it because he doesn't know how to pick and roll? Is it Clifford's offense that's the problem, or is it Kemba?

It's Clifford's offense. Kemba would be averaging at least 6 assist if the ball wasn't in McBob's hands for 20 seconds of almost every 24 second shot clock. He made more than a couple good passes last night that didn't get converted but still managed to get 6 assist. I don't like Kemba playing off the ball so much. That's when he becomes a 3-point chucker which isn't the strength of his game.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#488 » by HornetJail » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:02 pm

Seriously, from what I've seen lately, Kemba just brings the ball up the court, tries to locate McBob at the top of the key and then gets out of the way. That needs to change.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#489 » by JDR720 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:49 pm

someone should keep track how much Kemba and McBob have the ball on offense today, i bet McBob has the ball at least 5 more mins than Kemba
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#490 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:19 pm

The Bobcats have done a horrible job building around Kemba Walker and it's starting to negatively impact his play and he's getting unjustly blamed.

What point guard in the league would not be, if pressured to be a go-to scorer by coaches, ownership etc., double teamed and forced into bad shots if his wings were MKG (who is often afraid to shoot and does not draw defense on the perimeter) and Gerald Henderson (who is a shot clock carnivore with limited range) and his big man of the future were Bismack Biyombo (a guy who is just now learning how to catch the ball without fumbling too frequently) and a draftee Cody Zeller (who looks like a soft center)?

I'm sick and tired of how Kemba is bashed while fans scream for more playing time for a wing that does not improve Kemba's scoring effectiveness whatsoever and a supporting cast who (literally in Biyombo's case) wouldn't know an assist if it smacked them in the face.

What I'm implying here is to some of you maybe take a deep breath and if you can manage to get off Kemba's jock for just a split second, take a look at the rest of this team around him and realize how none of them make Kemba a better player.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#491 » by thruthefire » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:22 pm

How does Kemba make any of his teammates better?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#492 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:24 pm

in draft, FA or via trade we need to get at least 3 3pt shooters shooters to put around Kemba and those 3 shooters need to be at least 35% 3pt shooters
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#493 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:25 pm

thruthefire wrote:How does Kemba make any of his teammates better?


he doesn't he is a mini SG
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#494 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:28 pm

thruthefire wrote:How does Kemba make any of his teammates better?



How can he when THEY SUCK SO BAD?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#495 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:29 pm

JDR720 wrote:in draft, FA or via trade we need to get at least 3 3pt shooters shooters to put around Kemba and those 3 shooters need to be at least 35% 3pt shooters


Well let's start with the number 1, you know, stick with tradition.
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Post#496 » by Stun704 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:29 pm

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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#497 » by HornetJail » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:15 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
JDR720 wrote:in draft, FA or via trade we need to get at least 3 3pt shooters shooters to put around Kemba and those 3 shooters need to be at least 35% 3pt shooters


Well let's start with the number 1, you know, stick with tradition.

You want 1 three point shooter or 3 shooters that shoot 1%? Because I know which one actually sticks with tradition.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#498 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:01 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
JDR720 wrote:in draft, FA or via trade we need to get at least 3 3pt shooters shooters to put around Kemba and those 3 shooters need to be at least 35% 3pt shooters


Well let's start with the number 1, you know, stick with tradition.

You want 1 three point shooter or 3 shooters that shoot 1%? Because I know which one actually sticks with tradition.


No I was actually referring to the counting system - as in the number 1 comes before both 2 and 3.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#499 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:01 am

You know what sucks, guys? That it's hard to tell the good mid-range shooter Kemba's shot chart from the supposedly poor shooter John Wall.

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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 2.0 

Post#500 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:26 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:You know what sucks, guys? That it's hard to tell the good mid-range shooter Kemba's shot chart from the supposedly poor shooter John Wall.

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That shouldn't suck. John Wall is playing like the best PG in the Eastern Conference
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