Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft?

No-Man · Post #121 » by **No-Man** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:26 am

He will be the primary ball handler when Anderson leaves, and I think he can fall in love with his crossover at times, not from what i've seen this season but hs footage.

Another guy to consider is Jordan Mickey, not sure if he can play the 3 in NBA, but the guy is a special athlete.

ManualRam · Post #122 » by **ManualRam** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:41 am

Fischella wrote:He will be the primary ball handler when Anderson leaves, and I think he can fall in love with his crossover at times, not from what i've seen this season but hs footage.

Another guy to consider is Jordan Mickey, not sure if he can play the 3 in NBA, but the guy is a special athlete.

i think alford' son has a better chance at running the point than lavine (if he doesn't declare). bryce is a pretty solid passer. i don't see anything combo-ish about lavine. he looks like a scorer and shooter in the half court.

i think mickey's definitely a PF, maybe a face up one in the future. i don't think teams would wanna take his shot-blocking and activity away from the paint.

No-Man · Post #123 » by **No-Man** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:58 pm

Mickey seems like he knows where he does better, hope he keeps that level of energy.
I don't see Alford starting, probably LaVine, Powell, Hamilton plus Looney and Parker inside.

Post #124 » by **165bows** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:48 pm

I'll throw Alan Williams' name into the ring. A undersized center for UCSB, Ken Pomeroy's got him a regular feature of his blog for his high level of production combined with total lack of notoriety. Really more role player potential than anything but he's interesting to keep an eye on.

Think you’re really good at basketball? Alan Williams disagrees and he will crush you, at least statistically. UCSB’s undersized center piles up stats like nobody else. Ignored by scouts and media alike, this place is occasionally reserved for reporting on Williams’ incredible exploits.

Williams tuned up on Hawaii Pacific last Friday with 27 points and 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. That wasn’t fair and he knew it. Williams then went to Vegas and posted 21 and 9 on UNLV in the Gauchos 86-65 devastation of the Rebels. Through two games he’s used 41.9 percent of UCSB’s possessions, grabbed 21.7% of his team’s misses and drawn 9.2 fouls per 40 minutes. This week, Williams will bring pain to Utah State on Saturday and Colorado on Thursday. Enjoy!

No word on how he would fair against Bob Cousy.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog ... 11_8_11_15

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla ... ams-2.html

Apparently struggling with a back issue the last week.

EMG518 · Post #125 » by **EMG518** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 2:39 pm

I havent seen anyone mention Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. Sleeper for the lottery. He is just so raw and needs a few years to work on his game but its completely understandable as a freshman and you cant find a much higher upside guy than him in this draft.

brackdan70 · Post #126 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:23 pm

What about this Kid?. saw him play a little last season but not this season.

CBB_Fan · Post #127 » by **CBB_Fan** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 9:12 pm

A player I've recently heard chatter about is Wichita State's Ron Baker (6'3/220, So. PG/SG). From Chad Ford:

"Myself and a lot of NBA scouts are very high on Wichita State's Ron Baker," wrote Chad Ford. "He's sitting in the 40s on our Big Board right now, but the more I watch him play and the more I talk with scouts, I think he ends up as a potential first rounder -- especially if scouts are convinced he can play the point in the NBA."

Currently he's averaging 16.1 PPG (53.9%FG, 42.5% 3PT, 85.7% FT), 4.1 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.3 BPG, and 1.5 SPG. Even beyond the surprising block and steal numbers he is a good defender, and he has good size for the PG spot (he is currently their back-up PG and starting SG). Very good shooter, but has shown the ability to take defenders off the dribble. Good rebounder and passer as well.

Last four games he has averaged 21.8 on 57.8/43.5/89.3 shooting. Very good efficiency for that type of production and good defense have led to him rising from unknown to possible 1st rounder. If he shows the ability to play point he'll be a very attractive prospect in the first round.

Post #128 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Dec 3, 2013 5:21 pm

Does anyone know the story on Shawn Long of Louisiana Laffayette? Draftexpress doesn't have him as a draft pick, but his per 40 stats this season are mostly great - 29.5 points, 16.3 rebounds, 4.4 blocks, .62 TS%, but his to's and fouls are problems. He's also shot well from 3 point range - impressive for someone listed at either 6'9 or 6'10 and 245 - 250 lbs. L-Laf plays a pretty good schedule, so we should see him against good competition.

Post #129 » by **165bows** » Tue Dec 3, 2013 6:07 pm

Ruzious wrote:Does anyone know the story on Shawn Long of Louisiana Laffayette? Draftexpress doesn't have him as a draft pick, but his per 40 stats this season are mostly great - 29.5 points, 16.3 rebounds, 4.4 blocks, .62 TS%, but his to's and fouls are problems. He's also shot well from 3 point range - impressive for someone listed at either 6'9 or 6'10 and 245 - 250 lbs. L-Laf plays a pretty good schedule, so we should see him against good competition.

Had the same question in the Elfrid Payton thread. I was following Payton's season a bit and Long kept putting up monster games. Didn't get any response. Very little about him on a quick google search I did, but he's got seemingly really good size and great production. The combo you mentioned of traditional great big man stats with some outside shooting caught my eye, as well.

Post #130 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Dec 3, 2013 10:21 pm

165bows wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Does anyone know the story on Shawn Long of Louisiana Laffayette? Draftexpress doesn't have him as a draft pick, but his per 40 stats this season are mostly great - 29.5 points, 16.3 rebounds, 4.4 blocks, .62 TS%, but his to's and fouls are problems. He's also shot well from 3 point range - impressive for someone listed at either 6'9 or 6'10 and 245 - 250 lbs. L-Laf plays a pretty good schedule, so we should see him against good competition.

Had the same question in the Elfrid Payton thread. I was following Payton's season a bit and Long kept putting up monster games. Didn't get any response. Very little about him on a quick google search I did, but he's got seemingly really good size and great production. The combo you mentioned of traditional great big man stats with some outside shooting caught my eye, as well.

See that - great minds think alike!

And so do we.

Post #131 » by **165bows** » Tue Dec 3, 2013 10:34 pm

Ruzious wrote:
165bows wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Does anyone know the story on Shawn Long of Louisiana Laffayette? Draftexpress doesn't have him as a draft pick, but his per 40 stats this season are mostly great - 29.5 points, 16.3 rebounds, 4.4 blocks, .62 TS%, but his to's and fouls are problems. He's also shot well from 3 point range - impressive for someone listed at either 6'9 or 6'10 and 245 - 250 lbs. L-Laf plays a pretty good schedule, so we should see him against good competition.

Had the same question in the Elfrid Payton thread. I was following Payton's season a bit and Long kept putting up monster games. Didn't get any response. Very little about him on a quick google search I did, but he's got seemingly really good size and great production. The combo you mentioned of traditional great big man stats with some outside shooting caught my eye, as well.

See that - great minds think alike!

And so do we.

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Well, I guess we have the answer to the OP. Nobody knows **** all about this guy. :lol:

Thing is, he is only 20, he's not some 24 year old putting up monster numbers.

bigboi · Post #132 » by **bigboi** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 2:05 am

Keith Appling is a sleeper. Dude has some crazy athleticism and a certain flair for the game. He could end up being a major steal.

doordoor123 · Post #133 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 4:09 pm

I think we can all agree on one thing. There are going to be a TON of good guards coming into the league. If anyone is going to be a sleeper, it's going to be a guard.

Talent Chaser · Post #134 » by **Talent Chaser** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 1:08 am

TJ Warren is going crazy right now vs Northwestern.

Post #135 » by **165bows** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 1:33 am

Talent Chaser wrote:TJ Warren is going crazy right now vs Northwestern.

I've only seen him a bit, but is Chuck Person a crazy comp for Warren? Makes me think of him for some reason.

Post #136 » by **Klomp** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 8:02 pm

Only a junior, so he may not declare this year, but I think Andre Hollins from Minnesota is a possible sleeper. He's probably not going to be a full-time starter in the league, and will likely only be a 2nd rounder whenever he declares.

In the second round, teams are looking for skillsets. Someone who has one standout skill will probably be preferred over a good overall player who doesn't stand out in one area. Hollins has one NBA-ready skill: he can shoot the basketball. That immediately will get scouts interested. (Note: Shooting just 31.7% from 3 early, but shot 41.8% as a sophomore and 37.9% as a freshman.)

He's not a true point guard, and at 6'2", he's too short for SG. However, he should be able to carve out a niche as a sparkplug off the bench. Think Daniel Gibson. I think that is definitely realistic for him, and maybe more.

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ManualRam · Post #137 » by **ManualRam** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 8:29 pm

any opinions on the new mexico boys alex kirk and kendall williams as nba prospects?

Post #138 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 8:30 pm

165bows wrote:
Talent Chaser wrote:TJ Warren is going crazy right now vs Northwestern.

I've only seen him a bit, but is Chuck Person a crazy comp for Warren? Makes me think of him for some reason.

Yeah, but he needs to prove he's a better 3 point threat - like The Rifleman. He's a great mid-range scorer, but the NBA is more and more about hitting 3's and drawing fouls. You gotta be able to do one or the other. If you can do both, you're golden. He hasn't shown he can do either yet, but that could change.

SBM · Post #139 » by **SBM** » Thu Dec 5, 2013 9:50 pm

ManualRam wrote:any opinions on the new mexico boys alex kirk and kendall williams as nba prospects?

Kendall Williams overall offensive ratings were better than Deron Williams in each of there first 3 years in college. Williams could be a combo guard selected in the 2nd rd that makes a team.

ManualRam · Post #140 » by **ManualRam** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 12:39 am

anybody else think that rondae hollis-jefferson is a better freshman prospect than aaron gordon?