Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[Frank Lee]

One reason our two pg lineup works well is because we have a 3 and 4 who can stretch the floor and hit 3s.

KeifMo's play sure has diminished the 'panic need' for a PF. If he keeps it up, we could be in fine shape even for next yr. And he isnt too shy about shooting from deep. I agree with the importance of a stretch 4/5 like Frye. I havent monitored how often he or KeifMo are playing the 5, but no doubt Frye and Tucker's bombs make the scheme effective.

Could it be with the progression of the MoBros, the improvement of Tucker, and the return of Frye that we stand pat next yr with just the additions in the draft ? (signing PJ and Bled of course).

[GetYourPHX]

Could it be with the progression of the MoBros, the improvement of Tucker, and the return of Frye that we stand pat next yr with just the additions in the draft ? (signing PJ and Bled of course).

I think this looks more and more like the smart and likely decision with every win the Suns get. Sarver still owes Childress (and maybe Beasley?) money next year, so I doubt he goes "all in" this year to add to that bill.

Next year the suns will still have Frye and Green's expiring, plus LA's pick, our own pick, and possibly the Minnesota or Washington pick. They'll have assets to make a move to add a player to the young core.

[gaspar]

via Raptors board:

I heard on a radio station in Arizona that there is a rumoured deal between the suns and the raptors. Amir Johnson and steve novak for okafor and the twolves 1st round pick(top 13 protected in 2014)

Deal can't take place until December 15th

I call BS. Keep dreamin', Raps fans.

[RunDogGun]

via Raptors board:

I heard on a radio station in Arizona that there is a rumoured deal between the suns and the raptors. Amir Johnson and steve novak for okafor and the twolves 1st round pick(top 13 protected in 2014)

Deal can't take place until December 15th

I call BS. Keep dreamin', Raps fans.

Wouldn't that be a good deal for us?

[gaspar]

via Raptors board:

I heard on a radio station in Arizona that there is a rumoured deal between the suns and the raptors. Amir Johnson and steve novak for okafor and the twolves 1st round pick(top 13 protected in 2014)

Deal can't take place until December 15th

I call BS. Keep dreamin', Raps fans.

Wouldn't that be a good deal for us?

I don't like it. We don't need Amir, Novak is useless and has 3 more years on his contract at $3.7M per year. I'd rather have cap space.

[RunDogGun]

Got ya. Amir has put together four really good games in a row. Novak doesn't really fit much, but maybe he would be on his way through another trade. He could help out a contender with three point shooting.

I'm fine with staying where we are at. The more I look at the stats, the more I don't like the trade. Well, I hope you are right, and it is bs.

[Jdiddy701]

I hope that's BS. Unless we ship those guys somewhere else for something better. Amir Johnson might be good trade bait.


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[DirtyDez]

I don't see Green as a longterm piece here despite some hot shooting in November. He doesn't strike me as a guy I want playing in meaningful games with his shot selection and unwillingness to rebound despite being an elite athlete. I'm not really comfortable giving Archie those minutes either, yet, but he's still a big piece going forward. If we were to make a win-now move I'd prefer Hayward or Deng assuming we don't have to give up too much.

That could put Tucker in the 6th man role and really limit Goodwin/Brown's minutes. Hayward could play some minutes at SG need-be and we'd control his rights if that report from Vescey was true.

This is all assuming we're still in the hunt come mid-Feb...

[phrazbit]

I dont buy it. The Suns take on Novak, a worthless player with 3 years 10+ mil on his contract and give up a first so they can rent Amir Johnson for 5 months? Hardly a move that pushes the needle. I dont think McD has been loading up on assets so he can start to break them up on small moves that might equate to two or three more wins over the course of the year.

I dont see the Suns doing a "buy" move until something big comes along. IMO we're more likely to still be sellers at this point.

[asudevil]

via Raptors board:

I heard on a radio station in Arizona that there is a rumoured deal between the suns and the raptors. Amir Johnson and steve novak for okafor and the twolves 1st round pick(top 13 protected in 2014)

Deal can't take place until December 15th

I call BS. Keep dreamin', Raps fans.

i'm wondering which radio station and who said it. Because IF it were said by a local guy i'm sure somebody here would have posted it and it would have blown up.

i'll have a go at a toronto trade. the ONLY thing i see worth taking from them is DeMar. I'd eat a lot of bad cap space to take him back too.

Suns out:
Okafor/Green/Kravtsov/Indy First
Suns in:
Demar/Perkins/Hayes

We get our starting SG. Not sure if DeMar can play SF, but either way a rotation of Bledsoe/Dragic/DeMar is pretty freaking good. We keep our valuable First rounders, but lose a good amount of what i believe is not so valuable cap space this coming offseason. The ONLY player that is worth MAX that could be a FA is Lebron, and honestly is it worth it.

Raps out:
Demar/Hayes
Raps in:
Okafor/Lamb/Mavs First/Indy First

Raps go into complete rebuild. They drop $15mil in committed salaries for next season, add a promising SG, AND gain 2 late first round picks.

Thunder out:
Perkins/Lamb/Mavs First
Thunder in:
Green/Kravtsov

this can be seen as a move for 2 reason. 1.) they add a veteran scorer for cheap. 2.) They save $9mil in committed salaries for next season for a cost of Lamb and a late first. Green gives them a veteran scorer for cheap, which they are rumored to be looking for. And the savings they gain for next year retains the chance of keeping Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka for the future.

[GetYourPHX]

i'll have a go at a toronto trade. the ONLY thing i see worth taking from them is DeMar. I'd eat a lot of bad cap space to take him back too.

It's not a horrible trade value-wise, I just don't think the Suns have a need for those players.

We have a starting shooting guard, the Slovenian SUNsation Goran Dragic.

[I heard on a radio station in Arizona that there is a rumoured deal between the suns and the raptors. Amir Johnson and steve novak for okafor and the twolves 1st round pick(top 13 protected in 2014)

Deal can't take place until December 15th

I agree with the general sentiment of the others who posted. Why would the Suns do that trade? The only way I can see it working is if we shipped Frye and maybe Green out with the deal to clear salary for next year.

[Blackification]

But as Phoenix competes for a postseason spot, McDonough said he wouldn't part with any of the offseason assets he acquired in hopes of just reaching the playoffs this year.

"We'd make a move if we thought it helped us short and long term," McDonough said. "Say someone mid-20s and under who we think could be a Sun for multiple years, then yes. But we're not looking to trade a pick for a 35-year old guy who might get us in the playoffs."

McDonough added that he doesn't think it's a challenge to balance his long-term vision for the Suns with the possibility of winning right away, and said the Suns' youth is a big part of that. Channing Frye is the only player in the Suns' rotation older than 28, and much of the team's core is in its early 20s.

"I think the good organizations are consistent and stick with the plan," the first-year GM said. "But we owe it to the coaching staff to do whatever we can to help our guys make a playoff push, but within the framework of a young guy who can help us now and in the future."

http://arizonasports.com/41/1684428/Sun ... ly-success

Interesting, maybe we can make a run at barnes from the warriors? I'm surprised he is willing to trade one of his picks. I wouldn't be surprised at giving away the minnesota one, that seems like its the least likely pick for us to get.

[Sunsss]

limit Goodwin/Brown's minutes.

Don't tell me Shannon Brown is back.

[Flying Colors]

limit Goodwin/Brown's minutes.

Don't tell me Shannon Brown is back.

He never left
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y[/youtube]

[Qwigglez]

That Raps trade is bogus. I hope that trade wouldn't even be considered by the Suns. Trading with Atlanta is the way to go.
Suns get Al Horford
Suns lose Emeka Okafor, Miles Plumlee, T-Wolves pick, Indy's pick.

[Jdiddy701]

So, let’s go back to Phoenix, where I mentioned the Suns could change the balance of power in the Western Conference. How so, you ask?

Through one simple move.

As you might remember, Emeka Okafor was traded to Phoenix in October as a part of the Marcin Gortat trade. Okafor has been sidelined all season with a herniated disc in his neck and likely will not return to the court until January at the very earliest. He’s also in the final year of a six-year, $72 million deal and is currently making about $15 million this season. One thing is certain: he has no future with the Suns. They already have two promising young centers in Miles Plumlee and 20-year-old Alex Len.

Emeka Okafor

The Suns’ front office, meanwhile, is extremely tactful. They’ve saved millions of dollars and have picked up several assets in trades with the Pacers and Wizards since the start of the summer. If Okafor gets healthy and starts itching for a chance to play in a playoffs, as I suspect he will, the Suns will likely pounce on the opportunity to save even more money through negotiating a buy-out.

Now, of course, the Suns themselves are in the playoff race so it might be too soon to guarantee that a healthy Okafor will be bought out. There’s still a small chance his expiring deal could get traded again. Or, perhaps he will stay on and vocally lead Phoenix during the playoff stretch. More likely though, Phoenix will be negotiating a buyout with Okafor’s as soon as he gets healthy enough to play.

Consider this: Los Angeles can’t trade its first-round pick this year under the NBA’s Ted Stepien rule because they already owe next year’s pick to Boston. They’re also fully capped out on contracts and lack the expendable salaries necessary to swing a trade for a veteran defensive presence (a la Elton Brand or Zaza Pachulia). To put it kindly, their only expendable asset is Reggie Bullock, who’s not overwhelmingly valuable to begin with.

That leaves the Clippers with three options. They can stick it out with the rotation they have and hope to sign a healthy Odom by January; they can search the free agent scraps for slim pickings (Earl Barron, anyone?); or they can undersell Bullock, Willie Green and a distant future first-rounder for a backup big making under $5 million.

To me, none of those options sound too great.

This is where the Suns’ decision with Okafor becomes so important for the Clippers.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/12/07 ... nt-1565676

[JJ13]

Hawks never do that trade...makes them considerably worse when they have shot at top 5 seed in a horrible conference. They aren't hugely cap strapped with Joe & Josh gone, not looking for cap-space-only type deal. And neither T wolves nor Indy pick will be top 10...not giving away their all star for that

[grumpysaddle]

So, let’s go back to Phoenix, where I mentioned the Suns could change the balance of power in the Western Conference. How so, you ask?

Through one simple move.

As you might remember, Emeka Okafor was traded to Phoenix in October as a part of the Marcin Gortat trade. Okafor has been sidelined all season with a herniated disc in his neck and likely will not return to the court until January at the very earliest. He’s also in the final year of a six-year, $72 million deal and is currently making about $15 million this season. One thing is certain: he has no future with the Suns. They already have two promising young centers in Miles Plumlee and 20-year-old Alex Len.

Emeka Okafor

The Suns’ front office, meanwhile, is extremely tactful. They’ve saved millions of dollars and have picked up several assets in trades with the Pacers and Wizards since the start of the summer. If Okafor gets healthy and starts itching for a chance to play in a playoffs, as I suspect he will, the Suns will likely pounce on the opportunity to save even more money through negotiating a buy-out.

Now, of course, the Suns themselves are in the playoff race so it might be too soon to guarantee that a healthy Okafor will be bought out. There’s still a small chance his expiring deal could get traded again. Or, perhaps he will stay on and vocally lead Phoenix during the playoff stretch. More likely though, Phoenix will be negotiating a buyout with Okafor’s as soon as he gets healthy enough to play.

Consider this: Los Angeles can’t trade its first-round pick this year under the NBA’s Ted Stepien rule because they already owe next year’s pick to Boston. They’re also fully capped out on contracts and lack the expendable salaries necessary to swing a trade for a veteran defensive presence (a la Elton Brand or Zaza Pachulia). To put it kindly, their only expendable asset is Reggie Bullock, who’s not overwhelmingly valuable to begin with.

That leaves the Clippers with three options. They can stick it out with the rotation they have and hope to sign a healthy Odom by January; they can search the free agent scraps for slim pickings (Earl Barron, anyone?); or they can undersell Bullock, Willie Green and a distant future first-rounder for a backup big making under $5 million.

To me, none of those options sound too great.

This is where the Suns’ decision with Okafor becomes so important for the Clippers.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/12/07 ... nt-1565676

So, the point of the article is that Phoenix "changes the balance of the Western Conference" only because they buyout Okafor so that the Clippers can pick him up? I don't see the Suns buying him out when he expires a few months after his possible return to playing.

[GetYourPHX]

I remember reading somewhere that Okafor's contract is insured, can anyone verify?

If it is, and he doesn't end up playing this year, don't the Suns get out of paying his contract?

[JDLAW]

It is insured, but the amount of recovery if he does not play the full year will only be about $5.7M. There is a 50% deductible and then 80% of the remainder is picked up.