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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1201 » by J0rdan4life42o » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:14 pm

god shammgod wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 53s

Knicks don't want to burn first-rounder for Kyle Lowry and naturally prefer to keep Hardaway Jr. + save Shumpert (for another deal). But ...


LOL...so I guess Knicks management trying to show they won't bend over again to try and upgrade the roster....I'm assuming this will go back and forth until reports come out the pick is top 5 protected in the 1st year, top 1 protected the next, and finally unprotected in year 3.

Honestly, I feel like our incompetent front office doesn't know how to structure a deal where they can offset the value of a 1st round pick they trade. If they're hell bent on trading a 1st rounder....

1-14 protected in 2018
1-12 protected in 2019
Turns into 2nd Round Pick in 2020

I would happily deal a first round pick under that structure. Lowry isn't some stud or huge piece that should fetch better restriction on the pick...even the Hornets were able to make the pick they sent to Philly for Holiday top 5 protected from 2014-2020, which turns into a 2nd round pick in 2020. Considering how Lowry is several tiers below Holiday, Mills should probably put top 20 protection on the pick for 2018/2019.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1202 » by K_ick_God » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:14 pm

Strongly inclined to believe Wojina -- deal is Metta, Felton and 2018 and now they're negotiating over the protection.

I would give up this season and next but it's not a totally bad deal. Toronto gave up more for him recently.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1203 » by Starksfor3 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:14 pm

Let's remember we are talking about Kyle Lowry here, not Melo. Walk away before we get destroyed again.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1205 » by NOOB77 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:15 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.



And Phx would laugh
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1206 » by Jay10 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:15 pm

Ujiri wants to rape the knicks' roster so by the time 2018 comes around the raptors will be getting a lottery pick
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1207 » by Brooklyn_Yards » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:15 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.

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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1208 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:15 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.


And they would laugh at us.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1209 » by KNIXFAN_83 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:15 pm

Dbloc123 wrote:
shmeakone wrote:@ESPNSteinLine 52s

And at last report, Toronto was said to be seeking TWO of the following three: Shumpert, Hardaway Jr., Future First. A bit pricey, I'd sayDUDE WTF. **** Ujiri man, dude's a flaming troll. I'm not a Knicks fan if this happens.



Hang up the phone mills,,, Ujiri is not playing fair.... :o

FOH! The raps can suck a dick with that proposal!
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1210 » by Zackmorris » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:16 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.


Considering how well Dragic is doing now, its gonna take more than that

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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1211 » by Mr_Perfect » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:16 pm

J0rdan4life42o wrote:
god shammgod wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 53s

Knicks don't want to burn first-rounder for Kyle Lowry and naturally prefer to keep Hardaway Jr. + save Shumpert (for another deal). But ...


LOL...so I guess Knicks management trying to show they won't bend over again to try and upgrade the roster....I'm assuming this will go back and forth until reports come out the pick is top 5 protected in the 1st year, top 1 protected the next, and finally unprotected in year 3.

Honestly, I feel like our incompetent front office doesn't know how to structure a deal where they can offset the value of a 1st round pick they trade. If they're hell bent on trading a 1st rounder....

1-14 protected in 2018
1-12 protected in 2019
Turns into 2nd Round Pick in 2020

I would happily deal a first round pick under that structure. Lowry isn't some stud or huge piece that should fetch better restriction on the pick...even the Hornets were able to make the pick they sent to Philly for Holiday top 5 protected from 2014-2020, which turns into a 2nd round pick in 2020. Considering how Lowry is several tiers below Holiday, Mills should probably put top 20 protection on the pick for 2018/2019.


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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1212 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:16 pm

Just protect the pick, most will be happy.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1213 » by emo » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:16 pm

I don't even know what Masai Ujiri looks like, I can only assume that he resembles the devil.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1214 » by Buggin Out » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:16 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.


And they would laugh at us.

Felton, Shump, Hardaway, 2018 1st for Dragic. Would PHX do it?
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1215 » by Fat » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.


:lol:

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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1216 » by Mars_Blackmon » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 pm

Off the top of my head the players picked with picks we dealt have been

LaMarcus Aldridge- 2006
Joakim Noah- 2007
Gordan Hayward- 2010
Royce White- 2012
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1217 » by Starksfor3 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:btw the Knicks could just call phx and offer

Felton/2018 1st for Dragic.


Yes, the Knicks do have phones at their disposal and probably have the number for Phoenix's GM...


That was the point of your post, correct?
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1218 » by Mr_Perfect » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 pm

emo wrote:I don't even know what Masai Ujiri looks like, I can only assume that he resembles the devil.


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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1219 » by Fury » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 pm

emo wrote:I don't even know what Masai Ujiri looks like, I can only assume that he resembles the devil.


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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#1220 » by Slackstring701 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:18 pm

emo wrote:I don't even know what Masai Ujiri looks like, I can only assume that he resembles the devil.

He looks like a God in my eyes

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