GT #22: Clippers @ Wizards 7 PM CSN

DANNYLANDOVER · Post #81 » by **DANNYLANDOVER** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:22 am

80sballboy wrote:Porter is not this bad. I'll never give up on a kid this early, remembering how bad Beal was early on. I just think Porter needs an offseason in the weight room. Put on 10-15 pounds.

Don't kid yourself, Beal never looked this bad...he was missing shots, but at least, he was assertive (all the way back to summer league). We have another Vesely on our hands, IMO.

Illmatic21 · Post #82 » by **Illmatic21** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:23 am

Bill Simmons and Rose said in a podcast that they could see an "awkward' situation where GR Jr ends up being better than Porter.. I have a feeling that's going to be the case

keynote · Post #83 » by **keynote** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:23 am

80sballboy wrote:
keynote wrote:
80sballboy wrote:

I'm not saying that I want Porter to be a gunner for gunning's sake; that's not his game. Players can and should be assertive, even while playing an all-around game. Drive and dish. Make a smart defensive play. Grab a rebound you have no business getting.

He did just a grab an offensive rebound and miss a layup. He was assertive at least. Just keep playing him.

True. He grabbed a defensive rebound as well. Of course, I submitted my initial post before he did that.

FAH1223 · Post #84 » by **FAH1223** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:24 am

DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Porter is not this bad. I'll never give up on a kid this early, remembering how bad Beal was early on. I just think Porter needs an offseason in the weight room. Put on 10-15 pounds.

Don't kid yourself, Beal never looked this bad...he was missing shots, but at least, he was assertive (all the way back to summer league). We have another Vesely on our hands, IMO.

way too early to say that

mhd · Post #85 » by **mhd** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:26 am

I called that Glenn Rice was the better prospect that Porter was. EG will NEVER do it, but I'd trade Porter before its too late. He looks HORRIBLE out there. He doesn't have an NBA body at all. If the Suns would trade for our pick back, I'd trade Porter for it and filler.

Seriously, JJ looked better when he was with the Wizards than Porter does.

80sballboy · Post #86 » by **80sballboy** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:26 am

DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Porter is not this bad. I'll never give up on a kid this early, remembering how bad Beal was early on. I just think Porter needs an offseason in the weight room. Put on 10-15 pounds.

Don't kid yourself, Beal never looked this bad...he was missing shots, but at least, he was assertive (all the way back to summer league). We have another Vesely on our hands, IMO.

Alright. Mr. Negative. I can't tell after 5 games including summer league that he's Vesely, who at least is athletic. I'm going to give the kid some time and not just jump all over him and call him a bust. He does has a BB IQ. He's just playing tentative right now. The kid was hurt for 2 months.

80sballboy · Post #87 » by **80sballboy** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:27 am

DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Porter is not this bad. I'll never give up on a kid this early, remembering how bad Beal was early on. I just think Porter needs an offseason in the weight room. Put on 10-15 pounds.

Don't kid yourself, Beal never looked this bad...he was missing shots, but at least, he was assertive (all the way back to summer league). We have another Vesely on our hands, IMO.

Alright. Mr. Negative. I can't tell after 5 games including summer league that he's Vesely, who at least is athletic. I'm going to give the kid some time and not just jump all over him and call him a bust. He does have a BB IQ. He's just playing tentative right now. The kid was hurt for 2 months.

mhd · Post #88 » by **mhd** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:28 am

GhostsOfGil wrote:Porter looks like a poor mans Jared Jeffries out there.

JJ was MUCH more athletic than Porter is. Seriously, Porter is Maynor-esque in his athleticism. I'm seeing some BIG RED flags out there.

Masai would probably trade Lowry for Porter, but I'd want Amir Johnson.

Would Masai trade Lowry+Amir for Porter+filler?

keynote · Post #89 » by **keynote** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:28 am

I know the board will turn this game (like every game) into a referendum on Wall, but our Gortat (3-10, 7 boards) and Ariza (3-10) -- our second- and third-best players -- got outplayed by Jordan (6-6, 10 boards) and Dudley (7-10). Without Nene, we needed to win at least one of not both of those matchups.

DANNYLANDOVER · Post #90 » by **DANNYLANDOVER** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:29 am

LOL I can't pretend like I didn't hate the pick...hope he proves me wrong, but a rail thin 6'9 guy that struggles to dunk the ball on breakaways and has an awkward/unreliable shot, doesn't fill me with confidence.

mhd · Post #91 » by **mhd** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:30 am

80sballboy wrote:
DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Porter is not this bad. I'll never give up on a kid this early, remembering how bad Beal was early on. I just think Porter needs an offseason in the weight room. Put on 10-15 pounds.

Don't kid yourself, Beal never looked this bad...he was missing shots, but at least, he was assertive (all the way back to summer league). We have another Vesely on our hands, IMO.

Alright. Mr. Negative. I can't tell after 5 games including summer league that he's Vesely, who at least is athletic. I'm going to give the kid some time and not just jump all over him and call him a bust. He does has a BB IQ. He's just playing tentative right now. The kid was hurt for 2 months.

I called Ves a bust during his rookie year (look it up). Porter certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt, but he looks HORRIBLE out there. Some natural talent should at least show up. Rice may miss shots, but you see legit NBA athleticism and defensive ability with him. Porter doesn't do anything remotely impressive out there.

mhd · Post #92 » by **mhd** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:30 am

Well, probably the only saving grace of Porter being a bust is that it would lead to EG getting fired.

wizardry · Post #93 » by **wizardry** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:32 am

Maynor +4 tho 8-)

jivelikenice · Post #94 » by **jivelikenice** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:33 am

We didnt stand a chance today BUT its hilarious what constitutes a foul for the Clipps versus what constitutes one for the Wiz. Just comical.

Tricky_Kid · Post #95 » by **Tricky_Kid** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:34 am

wizardry wrote:Maynor +4 tho

His best game in this season?

wizardry · Post #96 » by **wizardry** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:35 am

On the positive side. Bench is getting better :lol:

Wizardspride · Post #97 » by **Wizardspride** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:36 am

Way too early to give up on Otto.

But with that being said, I wanted Len.

Assuming he'll be healthy (at some point) I still think that would have been the best move for us.

wizardry · Post #98 » by **wizardry** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:41 am

Seraphin looked better, Bookers been getting doubles, Rice looks better

Dr Positivity · Post #99 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:45 am

mhd wrote:
GhostsOfGil wrote:Porter looks like a poor mans Jared Jeffries out there.

JJ was MUCH more athletic than Porter is. Seriously, Porter is Maynor-esque in his athleticism. I'm seeing some BIG RED flags out there.

Masai would probably trade Lowry for Porter, but I'd want Amir Johnson.

Would Masai trade Lowry+Amir for Porter+filler?

How about if TOR/NY have a Lowry/Shumpert deal, we send you Shumpert for Porter?

AFM · Post #100 » by **AFM** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:49 am

I didn't like the Porter pick, but then again I wanted Bennett so...