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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1361 » by thruthefire » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:16 pm

BrotherDave wrote:Al Jeff was a dumb signing from the get go. His twinkle toe post moves and ability to absorb rebounds that come right to him are not worth 13.5 million a year. Trade his arse to somebody dumb/desperate for a center and be done with it. Hell, trade him to NY for Bargnani (one year less on his deal, cheaper) and Hardaway, Jr. Am I joking? I don't know anymore.


If anyone is getting traded, it needs to be this guy.

Who really gives a **** if Kemba or Hendo don't like it? Remember when the Nets traded for Joe Johnson and signed Gerald Wallace to make Deron Williams happy? How did that work out? And needless to say, neither of these guys have anywhere near the pull that Deron does. Kemba and Hendo will still compete, because that's what they do.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1362 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:19 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:Kyle Korver, Rodney Stuckey, Danny Granger, Arron Afflalo and Lou Williams to name some.

They would certainly be more productive and reliable come playoff time than Lamb.


Each player you named could be considered a poor postseason performer, with the exception of Danny Granger who has been oft-injured over the past couple seasons which would void his label of being "reliable"
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Post#1363 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:24 pm

Jeremy Lamb is worth trading for, but Charlotte should do everything within reasonable power to exclude MKG from being involved in such a deal
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1364 » by fatlever » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:31 pm

ford has started an MKG riot on twitter with his comments.

bull fans want to trade us deng for MKG
cavs fans want to trade us varejao for MKG
raptor fans want to trade us amir johnson for MKG
sixers fans want to trade us turner for MKG
bobcats fans want to cry

in the summer we had the rumors from sheridan hoops that MKG was on the block, now we ford mentioning MKG is on the block. i guess its time for us to accept reality that cho is definitely listening to (and perhaps initiating) talks about MKG.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1365 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:36 pm

fatlever wrote:ford has started an MKG riot on twitter with his comments.

bull fans want to trade us deng for MKG
cavs fans want to trade us varejao for MKG
raptor fans want to trade us amir johnson for MKG
sixers fans want to trade us turner for MKG
bobcats fans want to cry

in the summer we had the rumors from sheridan hoops that MKG was on the block, now we ford mentioning MKG is on the block. i guess its time for us to accept reality that cho is definitely listening to (and perhaps initiating) talks about MKG.


The Sixers deal is the best one.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1366 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:40 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:Kyle Korver, Rodney Stuckey, Danny Granger, Arron Afflalo and Lou Williams to name some.

They would certainly be more productive and reliable come playoff time than Lamb.


Each player you named could be considered a poor postseason performer, with the exception of Danny Granger who has been oft-injured over the past couple seasons which would void his label of being "reliable"

Yet Lamb hasn't even sniffed the playoffs.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1367 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:41 pm

fatlever wrote:ford has started an MKG riot on twitter with his comments.

bull fans want to trade us deng for MKG
cavs fans want to trade us varejao for MKG
raptor fans want to trade us amir johnson for MKG
sixers fans want to trade us turner for MKG
bobcats fans want to cry

in the summer we had the rumors from sheridan hoops that MKG was on the block, now we ford mentioning MKG is on the block. i guess its time for us to accept reality that cho is definitely listening to (and perhaps initiating) talks about MKG.


I wouldn't consider any of those deals. The Sixers deal is the best offer, but Evan Turner is a soon to be RFA. If the Bobcats were to show interest in such a trade for MKG, it would only be fair for Philly to include the Pelicans 1st rounder (top 5 protected until 2020), and that's where it'll become a deal breaker for Hinkie. Therefore, I don't see Charlotte wheeling & dealing with my team
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1368 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:44 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:Kyle Korver, Rodney Stuckey, Danny Granger, Arron Afflalo and Lou Williams to name some.

They would certainly be more productive and reliable come playoff time than Lamb.


Each player you named could be considered a poor postseason performer, with the exception of Danny Granger who has been oft-injured over the past couple seasons which would void his label of being "reliable"

Yet Lamb hasn't even sniffed the playoffs.


That's the exact reason why they 'should' hold onto some optimism before making a kneejerk move for a veteran that has proven that they don't necessarily show up in the postseason. For all OKC know, Jeremy Lamb might excel in the playoffs like Harrison Barnes did for Golden State last year. Lamb stepped up his game for UConn in tourney play to win a championship a few years ago, so there's that :dontknow:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1369 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:41 pm

fatlever wrote:i guess its time for us to accept reality that cho is definitely listening to (and perhaps initiating) talks about MKG.


Much ado about nothing IMO

I don't know why we wouldn't at least entertain all offers for our guys. Unless you've got a LeBron or Durant, you don't have an untouchable player. I don't doubt that any of our players can be had for the right price.

That said, MKG is probably our biggest asset, so I'd be pretty pissed if we shipped him out for a Lamb, Turner, or Deng.

The Sheridan story was clearly the result of smokescreening IMO. Sure, Sheridan may trust his sources, but the whole premise of the article was that Cho KNEW we'd get Porter at 4. Aside from the fact that Porter was an inferior prospect, him going to the Wizards 3rd was pretty much the biggest foregone conclusion of the draft.

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Post#1370 » by Snidely FC » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:13 pm

I would trade Kemba + MKG + 1st rd pick for Steph Curry, but I have an irrational desire for Steph Curry to be CHA PG.

Only wingmen I would trade MKG for are Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard but don't see GS or SA being willing.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1371 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:23 pm

There would be riots in Oakland if they traded Steph Curry at this point.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1372 » by HornetJail » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:25 pm

Snidely FC wrote:I would trade Kemba + MKG + 1st rd pick for Steph Curry, but I have an irrational desire for Steph Curry to be CHA PG.

Only wingmen I would trade MKG for are Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard but don't see GS or SA being willing.

#keepMKG

I'm not even sure I'd trade MKG for either one. Much rather have one next to him and give up both picks we're owed this year along with assets.

And god damn I want Stephen Curry so bad. We'll wait till 2017?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1373 » by BlackOutBuzz » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:26 am

Dammit, why did I have to go and conjure Sheridan. I'd rather not dignify him with site hits, but basically he has a "source" claiming we're one of the front-runners for Asik. So instead of reporting he throws together some trade scenarios.

"CHARLOTTE BOBCATS - They are one of the few teams with an expendable backup center in draft bust Bismack Biyambo. They’d have to throw in a better-than-serviceable second player to even get Morey to return their calls...so if we start with Biyambo and a No. 1, what else would it take? How about Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?"

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kydongj

He similarly devalues Teague as a throw-in in a Hawks proposal.
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Post#1374 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:29 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:Dammit, why did I have to go and conjure Sheridan. I'd rather not dignify him with site hits, but basically he has a "source" claiming we're one of the front-runners for Asik. So instead of reporting he throws together some trade scenarios.

"CHARLOTTE BOBCATS - They are one of the few teams with an expendable backup center in draft bust Bismack Biyambo. They’d have to throw in a better-than-serviceable second player to even get Morey to return their calls...so if we start with Biyambo and a No. 1, what else would it take? How about Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?"

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kydongj

He similarly devalues Teague as a throw-in in a Hawks proposal.


Uh, we do that and Ill find another horrible team to start cheering for like the Sixers or something. My Lord.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1375 » by JMAC3 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:41 am

This whole trading MKG stuff is garbage. I looked through the league and the only teams that would be looking to make that type of deal/have a player we would want are Sixers with Turner, Bulls with Deng, and possibly something with the Celtics around Jeff Green.

I guess I could see us working something out with Celtics, but I would think we would be interested in bringing back Rondo in that deal as well. Not quite sure how we would pull that off salary wise though.

Maybe MKG, Sessions, Gordon and Detroit pick for Rondo and Jeff Green.... Not sure how I feel about that.

Kemba could come off the bench as 6th man, that we have talked about so many times before..

Maybe we could steal a shooter from them as well. Like Lee, Bogans or Brooks... very unlikely tho deal all in all tho
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Post#1376 » by vorbis » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:46 am

you guys know chad ford and the rest of the rumor mongers are just being rod higgins*d, right? this happens all the time. probably my least-favorite aspect of the franchise is the front office's over-willingness to toss out trade rumor static. if you ask me, that's not how you maximize the value of your assets.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1377 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:48 am

JMAC3 wrote:This whole trading MKG stuff is garbage. I looked through the league and the only teams that would be looking to make that type of deal/have a player we would want are Sixers with Turner, Bulls with Deng, and possibly something with the Celtics around Jeff Green.

I guess I could see us working something out with Celtics, but I would think we would be interested in bringing back Rondo in that deal as well. Not quite sure how we would pull that off salary wise though.

Maybe MKG, Sessions, Gordon and Detroit pick for Rondo and Jeff Green.... Not sure how I feel about that.

Kemba could come off the bench as 6th man, that we have talked about so many times before..

Maybe we could steal a shooter from them as well. Like Lee, Bogans or Brooks... very unlikely tho deal all in all tho


Can you do me a favor and sneak into Time Warner Arena and take a peek at the trade targets Cho scribbled on his secret big board? :wink: Just teasin'
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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1378 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:49 am

Of course Rick Bonnell has no idea what in the hell is going on.
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Post#1379 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:00 am

They are one of the few teams with an expendable backup center in draft bust Bismack Biyambo.


Isn't Omer Asik & Bismack Biyombo having a similar season statistically, being that they're both playing about the same minutes a game as well receiving DNP-CD's, with the latter being slightly better?

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Re: Fake Trade Thread III 

Post#1380 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:38 am

Asik didn't want to play behind Howard in Houston and couldn't play PF. Why would his situation be any different here unless were going to trade Jefferson? He'd be just as pissed here as he is in Houston.
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