Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[JMac1]

We would have to give up the farm to get Love.... and we just finally started enjoying the rural life.

I think our best bet to improve is to add to this team via free agency. Word is getting out that this is a good place to play.

Suns just need to make a run for Hayward and have Okafor healthy...

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I dont see the Jazz getting outbid for Haywood, much like I dont see us getting outbid for Bledsoe. They have 20+ mill in expiring. Dont have to resign Kantor(C) till 2015. Favors(PF) has already been extended. Trey Burke(PG)is locked up on a rookie deal. Haywood(SF) is part of their core for the future. They will be adding a goodpick rook to the mix to complete their starting five. I dont think they have pick envy at this moment.

Its nice to have a wishlist, but (UPDATE ALERT).....














there is no Santa Claus

Unfortunately this is true....... Jazz add a top 3 pick to a Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burke core and they are good to go!! I know this, that is why I am tempering my Hayward hopes. I think we address the upgarde at the 3 or 4 in the offseason. No reason to give up all of our picks and assets for anyone not name Durant or Lebron. We cannot gut our team and they are just starting to gel. Lets just try to make the playoffs with this bunch and develop Len and Goodwin as best we can.

I know must of you guys have thrown in the towel on Len, but really 20?! Miles could be a Len stop-gap for 3 years and Bledsoe will be entering his prime at 27 and Goran 30 and Goodwin 22....and right now these are our main guys going foward.

On another note, Chad Ford is a hater!! Did anyone catch his podcast on ESPN? He basically said we were stupid for winning because we are suppose to be bad. Why? because he said so. So instead of saying he was wrong, he believes we are dumb... Incredible.

[JJ13]

How about afflalo? Guy is killing it on Magic but they are rebuilding. Not sure what it would take to get him, but putting a scorer at SF would be nice:

Bled/Ish
Dragic/Afflalo/Goodwin
Afflalo/Green/Tucker
Frye/Morris/Morris
Plumlee/Frye/Len

[Ryu]

Unfortunately this is true....... Jazz add a top 3 pick to a Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burke core and they are good to go!! I know this, that is why I am tempering my Hayward hopes. I think we address the upgarde at the 3 or 4 in the offseason. No reason to give up all of our picks and assets for anyone not name Durant or Lebron. We cannot gut our team and they are just starting to gel. Lets just try to make the playoffs with this bunch and develop Len and Goodwin as best we can.

I know must of you guys have thrown in the towel on Len, but really 20?! Miles could be a Len stop-gap for 3 years and Bledsoe will be entering his prime at 27 and Goran 30 and Goodwin 22....and right now these are our main guys going foward.

On another note, Chad Ford is a hater!! Did anyone catch his podcast on ESPN? He basically said we were stupid for winning because we are suppose to be bad. Why? because he said so. So instead of saying he was wrong, he believes we are dumb... Incredible.

Yeah, they are good to go but only on paper. Kanter and Favors finally got a starting gig and have failed to produce. Such an overrated players those two.

And Chad Fraud... such a tool of a man.

[rsavaj]

Pretty great Coro article: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... g-fly.html

The plan was to put together a team that would succeed while it grows, and build a sustainable future. They have the assets of up to four 2014 first-round draft picks and more than $6 million of salary-cap space to make a move, but the instinct remains to let this 14-9 team ride it out and see what they have.
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The Suns could trade their draft picks for someone to slide into their open 15th roster spot but it would have to be a young player who fits into their long-term future.

“During my introductory press conference, the one thing I said we’d never do is pass on a chance to get a star, and that doesn’t change,” Suns General Manager Ryan McDonough said. “For me, it (the 14-9 start) doesn’t change anything. The biggest misconception about our off-season moves was that we were trying to lose. We identified a good group of players who we thought could show more than they had in their careers.

McDonough said they would not overthink their success and run the risk of disrupting what has worked for coach Jeff Hornacek and the 30-and-under rotation. In the same vein, they would seem unlikely to trade a player who is essential to what they do. Channing Frye, the elder player making $6.4 million this season and $6.8 million next season, might have seemed like a tradable commodity at the start of the season but then he became a starter and showed that his 3-point stroke is eternal.

If the Suns are in a playoff hunt at the February trade deadline, how could they part with a player who opens the driving lanes for Dragic and Bledsoe and provides wisdom for the team?

“We’re not going to do anything for short-term gratification if it impacts our long-term goal and that’s to build a team that is sustainable,” Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said. “The team now is in such a good place in terms of chemistry that you have to be careful. It’s only been (23) games I don’t think you do something that affects what you’ve been working on for three years.”

Glad to see Frye getting some love. His spacing is so essential for this squad.

[JDLAW]

Both Morris brothers.... Green.... Len.... Min Pick (back)....Washington pick....Laker 2015 for Love.
Healthy Okafor for healthy Granger.

E. Bled/ Dragon/ Granger/ Love/ Plumlee!! still have Ish, Goodwin, Tucker, Christmas, Frye, Kravstov on the bench. Still have our own pick and Indy pick in this draft. If Granger dosnt work he is expiring and 14 mil falls off, if he does work and we click and he enjoys his time here, he resigns for much less to stay.

You are out of your mind. This is not payback for the Cowboy's raping of the Vikings for Herschel Walker.

[NapoleonII]

I also think Bosh would be a PERFECT fit here.

He could spread the floor and open lanes for Dragic/Bledsoe.

He is one of the best mid-range shooting bigs in the league, if not the best.

He'd get more usage here.

His pick and roll defense is elite.

[Ring_Wanted]

He is one of the best mid-range shooting bigs in the league, if not the best.

Maybe 2013 LaMarcus Aldridge has something to say.

Anyway, I am not a hater (but definitely not a fan either) of Bosh, but I don't want to go after him given our current roster. We have midrange game from the Morrii and threes with Frye. I'd think there would be better ways to spend max money (on that regard, not sold by any means on Hayward and in general, the 2014 realistic free agent class).

[NapoleonII]

I can't argue there, but Bosh is underutilized in Miami. Their whole offense depends on him being an elite threat from mid-range and he's even extended into 3 pt land. He's changed his game for Wade/Lebron.

I know it's a long shot envisioning the big three being broken up, especially with Riley at the helm, but if our front office is looking at all the options (which they are), Bosh has to be on the discussion table.

He's a year younger than Channing Frye, and is a legit 20/10 big man who actually plays decent defense.

[Ring_Wanted]

The thing is that if I am using my shot at a max contract, I'd prefer to get something I am missing instead of an upgrade over what I already have well covered. It would be a different story if you traded pieces for such upgrade while keeping cap space to close whatever hole your roster may have afterwards, but as a simple free agent target, I think we should look elsewhere.

[JJ13]

Not groundbreaking news but somewhat informative tweet back from Coro on the age the Suns would be targeting in a trade:

Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 57m
The 14-9 #Suns start doesn't alter the plan. They made 4 offseason deals & would only do another to get a young star. http://bit.ly/1fk4iIR

Reply JJ13AZ ‏@JJ13AZ 49m
@paulcoro How young/old is their preferred "cutoff"?

Reply Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 8m
@JJ13AZ Roughly 25 or younger.

[rsavaj]

Kevin Love is 25.

DUN DUN DUN

[jlove_26]

I'd love to get Afflalo here as well. He'd be perfect as our starting 3.

Tucker/Len/Okafor/1st for Afflalo/Turkeyglue

[Ring_Wanted]

Yeah, Love is 25, but probably not available to us unless it is in free agency or he specifically demands a trade to the Suns, don't you think?

[rsavaj]

Yeah, Love is 25, but probably not available to us unless it is in free agency or he specifically demands a trade to the Suns, don't you think?

For sure, which is why you'd have to blow them away with an offer. But Kevin Love is worth it. He's a top 10 player in the league, and I'm willing to pay the price to acquire one.

[Qwigglez]

Not groundbreaking news but somewhat informative tweet back from Coro on the age the Suns would be targeting in a trade:

Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 57m
The 14-9 #Suns start doesn't alter the plan. They made 4 offseason deals & would only do another to get a young star. http://bit.ly/1fk4iIR

Reply JJ13AZ ‏@JJ13AZ 49m
@paulcoro How young/old is their preferred "cutoff"?

Reply Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 8m
@JJ13AZ Roughly 25 or younger.

That doesn't leave very many players. Only two names come to mind, Hayward and Barnes. I guess maybe Larry Sanders, Ibaka is also under 25, but he would only be traded if the Thunder got some elite talent back or we'd have to make a three-way trade somehow. Blake Griffin is only 24 too, but it would be the same type of deal with Ibaka. Love is nearly impossible to get too, lol.

If Memphis decided to tank, I'd look at trying to get Marc Gasol.
They could trade Z-Bo, Tony Allen to the Knicks for Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, future first. That cuts off a small amount of long term money from Tony Allen's contract. Amare wouldn't do anything, they could possibly buy him out.
Then they could make a deal with the Suns of Marc Gasol for Emeka Okafor, Miles Plumlee, Indy's First, T-Wolves First.

And who knows, maybe go for another brother tandem in the offseason and go for Pau Gasol too, lol.

[thamadkant]

I'd love to get Afflalo here as well. He'd be perfect as our starting 3.

Tucker/Len/Okafor/1st for Afflalo/Turkeyglue

But Afflalo is a "2"...
He is a prototypical 2...


Deng is a prototypical "3".... For example.


Afflalo as a 3... Might work... Maybe.
But he is a 2 and he is scoring 22ppg as a 2 for Magic...

Suns are lacking a true "3" that can score...

[Ring_Wanted]

Yeah, Love is 25, but probably not available to us unless it is in free agency or he specifically demands a trade to the Suns, don't you think?

For sure, which is why you'd have to blow them away with an offer. But Kevin Love is worth it. He's a top 10 player in the league, and I'm willing to pay the price to acquire one.

Assuming you want to keep a core of Dragic-Bledsoe-PJ and Plumbs to plug in Love, the best we could do is trading all the draft we have in 2014 and 2015 plus Archie, Len and the Morii.

If it was up to me, that offer would be on the table any time they want to take it, as long as Love is healthy (and despite his horrible defense), but of course from Minni's perspective, they have the right to believe they can get a better return for an all NBA player.

Anyway, I believe Archie Goodwin would get the Rondo treatment from McD in such trade. Also, Len's health will be critic to any big move we may do.

[Ring_Wanted]

That doesn't leave very many players. Only two names come to mind, Hayward and Barnes. I guess maybe Larry Sanders, Ibaka is also under 25, but he would only be traded if the Thunder got some elite talent back or we'd have to make a three-way trade somehow. Blake Griffin is only 24 too, but it would be the same type of deal with Ibaka. Love is nearly impossible to get too, lol.

If Memphis decided to tank, I'd look at trying to get Marc Gasol.

Marc makes absolute perfect sense to us. He'd be the worthy upgrade over Plumbs (instead of Sanders, imo), but the ideal would be to use the draft to get him while keeping Miles. A target we should try to get, even if he is older than our core.

I'd decline Sanders unless he'd be ridiculously cheap.

I'd let the Warriors have Barnes. Klay, on the other hand...

As for Ibaka, as crazy as it sounds, maybe the Thunder would be better off by trading him for an obscene abount of quality depth to surround their two all nba players. The contracts would certainly be there with Serge and Perks, and they already have a nice off the bench option in Jackson.

[NapoleonII]

I can't see Marc being a focal point in the team with the most fast break points in the league. Grizzlies are 25th in the league.....we like to run.....Grizzlies like to wear down their opponents in half-court sets.

I would love Ibaka here. His blocks with Dragic/Bledsoe running the break? A thing of beauty. He's also very young and his offense is actually developing nicely for a big-man.

[Ring_Wanted]

Ha! Yep, we want to run, and rightfully so with the kind of roster we have. But Marc Gasol is an absolute difference maker, and would do wonders to our half court offense, not to mention defense (imagine if combined with a kept Plumlee).

Besides, you don't need (and certainly won't have, to be realistic) your five men running everytime. If managed well (basically the opposite to Shaq-Porter), a big man like Marc would be a brutal plus and in my opinion, would elevate this team to another level.