PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project - Discussion Thread

[john248]

This was a tough, tough choice for me. I wanted to go small (not THAT small ), but at this point, when even Alonzo is taken, i picked up the last eligible defensive monster in the middle who is a capable offensive player as well.
Dwight is like a contrast to Larry, an athletic freak, but pretty limited in terms of skill. Strange combination, isn't it? But he HAS TO be (somewhat) serious playing with Bird, they control the rebounds, could be the cornerstones of a great defense. And Dwight could flourish on the offensive end as well benefiting from Larry's assists, making lots of dunks and easy hook-shots. He is also a more dangerous offensive threat than some of the centers left on the board, so he should provide some additional space for outside shots.

Although, this duo from totally different eras still seems strange to me. Should be fun.

EDIT: and Dwight has a really nice 3-year prime (that matches up well with Ewing or Zo), so that also helps in this format.

Dwight, IMO, at least peaked higher than Alonzo though both played great defense. Main difference between the 2 is that Alonzo actually had a decent mid-range shot. Orlando Dwight is a great pick.

[Quotatious]

Dwight, IMO, at least peaked higher than Alonzo though both played great defense.

I'd say at their peaks they're pretty even. Dwight had more seasons close to his peak than Zo had, though. Damn those kidneys...

[ThunderDan9]

I hope my first thought will be picked up soon, so I can discuss my "what-if" team that never happened.

[Bruh Man]

Some really interesting duo's so far, was hoping for a early draft pick before we started but I'm very happy with my duo. I'm actually liking the later duo's much more, draft format is interesting early picks will have to make up ground with their later picks by building a solid bench. I wonder how much weight the judges will put on the bench, should be interesting.

[whitehops]

Dwight was a beast from 09-11, I really really really hoped he fell to me.


now I have to entirely re-do the rest of my team, I had a very specific vision with Dwight being a very large piece of it.

[whitehops]

Some really interesting duo's so far, was hoping for a early draft pick before we started but I'm very happy with my duo. I'm actually liking the later duo's much more, draft format is interesting early picks will have to make up ground with their later picks by building a solid bench. I wonder how much weight the judges will put on the bench, should be interesting.

I think part of that will depend on your strategy, minute allocation etc.

[RSCD3_]

Question I have my eyes on a player who played 3 seasons totalling 191 games yet one season was only 54 am I allowed to select such a player

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[Quotatious]

Question I have my eyes on a player who played 3 seasons totalling 191 games yet one season was only 54 am I allowed to select such a player

Yes, you are allowed to take him. I asked a similar question and Hibachi clearly stated that your guy has to have at least 185 games played in three 82 game seasons, so at least 185 of 246. You don't have to wait for confirmation, you can already take him.

[Quotatious]

I hope my first thought will be picked up soon, so I can discuss my "what-if" team that never happened.

I think I figured out what you want to do, but I don't think the third player who you want to take will be still available when your turn comes .

I wonder how much weight the judges will put on the bench, should be interesting.

I think they will put a LOT of weight on the bench, players chosen with #6,7 or 8 picks will still be near-all-stars in most cases, so they could make a significant impact on any team.

[john248]

Some really interesting duo's so far, was hoping for a early draft pick before we started but I'm very happy with my duo. I'm actually liking the later duo's much more, draft format is interesting early picks will have to make up ground with their later picks by building a solid bench. I wonder how much weight the judges will put on the bench, should be interesting.

I think part of that will depend on your strategy, minute allocation etc.

Makes me wonder if we drafted 60s players, we could just leave Wilt in there for the whole game. Obviously there are arguments against it but would be funny.

[O_6]

It's 75 percent played over 3 years. So it'd be 161 games out of 214, if you're using the 99 lockout. Your guy is eligible, having played 183.

I was under the impression it was 75% of the games in each season which would avoid say.. 82, 82, 21 games played over 3 seasons; including 75% of shortened seasons.

A bit absurd to consider a 21 game season to count as something as a "peak" year.

Ahh confusion. I thought we all agreed to 75% over 3 seasons? I'll go back over the thread in a bit to check on that and see if there was any miscommunication.

Edit: You're right, I was confused.

From page 8:

I think your previous suggestion - 70% in each season would be better. It'd be 57 games in every season, or maybe 75% (62 games) one of the two for me, personally I like 62 games more. In lockout years, it be either 35 games with 70% mark or 38 games with 75% mark in 1998-99 and 46 games (70%) or 50 games (75%) in 2011-12.

Let's pick one of those a get it started on the first of January.

i'm down for this. 75% of games over 3 seasons is a reasonable criteria. That's 185 games out of a possible 246.

What Quotatious said in that^ is what we are using. 75% played each season. That's 62/82 in full seasons; 38/50 in '99; 50/66 in '12. So even with this, Quotatious' guy is good, I think it was Alonzo?

I don't think that player qualifies RSCD3_...

I'd also like a clarification on using the current 2013-2014 season. I'm probably the only one who it has impacted since I took Durant. I'd obviously like to use the current season but if I can't so be it. I'm perfectly fine with 2011-2013 Durant who finished 2nd in the MVP twice, won 2 scoring titles. and had a one dominant run to the Finals. But 2014 Durant looks like an improved version.

It's cool to see the teams being selected here. My 2nd round pick came down to Steve Nash or Patrick Ewing. I think I made the right pick but I won't know until I see how the draft plays out these next couple of rounds.

[RSCD3_]

Ok I posted it but checked back here and deleted it since that's the criteria.

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[john248]

Question I have my eyes on a player who played 3 seasons totalling 191 games yet one season was only 54 am I allowed to select such a player

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In an 82 game season, 75% of the games (in each of the peak seasons) is 61.5 games; adjust for shortened seasons. That was the minimum established in this thread that Hibachi confirmed earlier. So 54 games or 60 games falls short while still needing 184.5 over 3 seasons; this would avoid 82 82 21 games played over 3 seasons or even 82 82 60. Otherwise, I'd just start finding 2 year peaks + injured season that meet the 185 game mark, and there's a player or 2 out there who hit the 75% games (including strike years) that I want...which I'd love to draft. haha

[RSCD3_]

Wanted to team up lbj with either pippen or dwight or even gary payton but everyone wanted good defensive players cant blame them. Im kind of wondering how much of a willing passer mchale would be, I deliberately set up not to acquire any black holes. Of course the other choices didnt fit or were too one sided

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[Notanoob]

I was hoping to get Payton or Pippen myself, to pair a GOAT perimeter defender with a GOAT interior defender, allowing me to focus on killers and shooters for the rest of the team.

Also, I complied a list of guys at each position who I figure will be drafted, and I've come to the conclusion that someone is going to end up with a pretty unimpressive PF. There really aren't that many options in an ALL-Time draft at that position. Thankfully, at this point, there aren't that many big names left anyways, so most of us will end up with guys who are around the same level.

[DHodgkins]

I would also love to participate if there are still open spots.

You are up sir

[whitehops]

gonna be interesting to see who gets paired up with shaq, magic, hakeem and michael.

[MisterHibachi]

I don't think that player qualifies RSCD3_...

I'd also like a clarification on using the current 2013-2014 season. I'm probably the only one who it has impacted since I took Durant. I'd obviously like to use the current season but if I can't so be it. I'm perfectly fine with 2011-2013 Durant who finished 2nd in the MVP twice, won 2 scoring titles. and had a one dominant run to the Finals. But 2014 Durant looks like an improved version.

It's cool to see the teams being selected here. My 2nd round pick came down to Steve Nash or Patrick Ewing. I think I made the right pick but I won't know until I see how the draft plays out these next couple of rounds.

Yeah, pretty much that, RSCD3_.

Me and Quotatious talked about this a while back. I'll try to find the quote and see what we established regarding this year's players.

Edit: This was it (pg. 7):

Just to consider something else I was thinking about - can we take players from the current season. For instance, can we draft Durant and assume he will average the same numbers over the entire season (after all, it is a significant sample size already but we cannot predict future injuries or some trade that might skew the numbers a little bit).

I believe Mister Hibachi said that a player has to play at least 75% of the 82 game season to qualify, so Love wouldn't be available, unless we did that draft after the season ends. I don't think it's necessary to wait with that because of him though. Love was still a great player in 2011 or 2012 and would be a very valuable piece for a team with a guy like Mutombo or Ben Wallace at center.

I would like to include this season as well. You just have to take the risk that the guy you're choosing is gonna keep up his production for the rest of the season. My reasoning for wanting include this season is, if you pick last year's Durant, I have absolutely no doubt that judges will be influenced by the play of current Durant, which I think is better than last year's. So that kinda gives an unfair advantage cuz its gonna be very hard to separate Durant from this year and last year cuz they are both such recent seasons. However, if it's too complicated or controversial to include this year, i'm okay with that too.

We can add the stipulation that to use this year, the player has to have played 75% of the team's games. Not 75% out of 82, but 75% of however many games the team has played at the time whenever we start the playoffs after the draft. That sounds reasonable I think. For Durant, it's pretty much locked in stone that he'll qualify for this year.

[HeartBreakKid]

I really don't see why not.

[MisterHibachi]

I can't decide who has the better defensive duo, CaliBullsFan with Duncan/Payton or Bruh Man with KG/Scottie. Damn, those are some defensive juggernauts