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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#261 » by keynote » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:27 am

Jimmy Recard wrote:He deserves to be an all star but tonight showed how immature he still is, and a long way away from being considered a good leader. He brought zero energy to begin with, refused to put pressure on the defense, missed jumper after jumper and spent the rest of the game sulking. He wasn't engaged in the game at all and he played with no intensity, and it rubbed off on the rest of the team.

Everyone played like ass except Ariza and Nene.


I hear you, but against a big front line, Wall needs 2 out of his 3 shooters to shoot well and space the floor. Ariza's J showed up; Beal and Webster didn't.

Wall gets most of the credit and most of the blame on this team, but this team lives and dies on whether the three shooters are hitting open jumpers on a given night.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#262 » by GeeWiz » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:27 am

Get Gortat outta here. He's a loser and this team needs change if it wants to get out of mediocrity. I will be PISSED if this guy gets an extension.

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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#263 » by dlts20 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:27 am

new coach, new coach, new coach. And spear my all the talk about how he holds no blame. Terrible system, makes all the wrong decisions at all the wrong times. A terrible motivational speaker and most of the time it makes guys go South instead of North.

Wall, dont listen to this clown. Do you and be aggressive. He's going to ruin your game, just like he already has you handcuffed with this horrible system
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#264 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:27 am

This team.... I know its a tough back-to-back but we blew like 2-3 leads of 9-13 points this game. Very frustrating. This next stretch of games (nest 8 or so) will be interesting, if we survive it, I'll be happy. If we don't, I just don't know how much sympathy I'll have. We've lost a ton of games we should have won. Not only lost them, but had them in control, just to give them away. Yeah we've won some we shouldn't have won, but those have been of a very few.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#265 » by nuposse04 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:27 am

dckingsfan wrote:
keynote wrote:Man, Kanter had his *way* with Gortat and Seraphin. I know the Wizards were on a back-to-back on the road, but Kanter + Favors mad our front line look small.


And really, that was the game...


That and Wall and Beal's terrible shooting performance. A 5 letter word that begins with "D" and ends with "epth" would go a long way on this team :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#266 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:30 am

One can hope for this conversation:

Witt: John, remember that little chat we had a few days ago?
Wall: yeah coach ?
Witt: well, fuggetaboutit.
Wall: you said I was selfish and was forcing the issue.
Witt: son, you got a lot to learn. Look at my record. I have the worst winning percentage in NBA history. Why on earth would you listen to me?
Wall: well, you're better than Ed Tapscott.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#267 » by Brazil88 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:31 am

At some point we got stop putting all the blame on Whitman.

This is a horrible team they just lost to. Last 2 losses were against crap tanking teams. At some point we got put the blame on the players. Gortat plays **** defense all night long on Kanter, Wall only feels like he wants to play in the last possessions. His defense on Burke was bad too (another midget rookie going 4-5 on 3pt shots)

Beal disappeared, Webster with an airball and bad defense also. Temple not knowing his place and trying to do too much on the offensive end.

And above it all, blame should be on the players because it's another wasted opportunity to break the .500 mark and they just choked again. Don't they have any pride? It's beyond embarrassing, it's beyond frustrating.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#268 » by nuposse04 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:31 am

stevemcqueen1 wrote:Awful loss. We're not going to win if Wall only shows up for the final 6 minutes of a game.

We now have losses to Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Utah. As a result, we're going to have to nut up and beat some of the best teams in the league just to stay around .500.

We really need a new coach.


I doubt it happens mid season...but Ted really needs to realize how dumb our offensive sets are. Losing the next 5 in a row might get Randy fired... :P
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#269 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:31 am

stevemcqueen1 wrote:Awful loss. We're not going to win if Wall only shows up for the final 6 minutes of a game.

We now have losses to Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Utah. As a result, we're going to have to nut up and beat some of the best teams in the league just to stay around .500.

We really need a new coach.


We really need a new GM to pick the new coach.
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Post#270 » by LPHotspur » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:31 am

80sballboy wrote:
LPHotspur wrote:And there we go. Again, never learning from the same mistake time after time in the same situation. Wall is not the f ucking closer on this team. When they start giving the ball to Beal in these situations...things will change.


WALL Gave Beal the shot and he missed it by a mile for the game-tying shot.


Go check again. Because I just did, and that's not what happened. I really don't care how bad Beal is playing. At that point in the game, I'll take Beal any day. I can't recall one big shot in the final 5 seconds of a game that John has made.
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Post#271 » by Illmatic21 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:32 am

dlts20 wrote:
Illmatic21 wrote:So who is gonna blame this on Wittman?

Wall is playing like he doesn't even care. No focus or intensity.

Im going to blame this on Wittman. I guarantee you this wouldnt have been the Wall we seen if Witt didnt have that talk. The headline was on every major sports site. "Wizards/Witt have sit down with Wall about doing too much."

Doing too much? How? One of the most pass 1st guys in the league who was the 1st person after the game to said he did too much. This is the Wall that started the season. The only difference from us being 2-7 to start and 7-2 over the next 9 was Wall saying to forget Witt and he needs to be more aggressive.

So when Wall played well yesterday even though he was passive, everyone said Witt did great with him. Now today Witt has no culpability in it even though Wall is clearly playing more passive than he's been at any point since the first 9 games? Its just a coincendence that this happend now after there talk right? Its not.

Again, this trip is the perfect type of trip for Wall. All running teams that if aggressive he couldve lead us to wins and average 24 & 9 atleast. Instead Witt kills that before we leave and this is what we get. Wait to see what Curry does to him. Its going to look just like what Kyrie did to him early in the season before Wall came out and said he's going to be more aggressive.

Hopefully he says that after the game and stops listening to people trying to put the brakes on him. Our own coach putting the breaks on his star, Franchise player. Wall playing these type of games right before they announce the All Star team. Pathetic. Numbers look way worse than they couldve looked. Remember how I got upset every game how he didnt even try to look like a Superstar, #1 pick, Max guy?

I dont care if you fail but I wanted him to try. He wasnt trying and Witt has put him back into that mode. Where every game he is like a 12-15ppg type player but everyone likes it because he's getting 10ast. They say they didnt want him shooting more because his FG% sucked. I said it sucked because he's not aggressive enough or shooting enough. Its the same again. He needs to start attacking

Wittman isn't telling Wall to take a bunch of dumb, out of rhythm jumpers. He's not telling Beal to miss wide open shots. He's not telling Gortat to play like he has a vagina

Do I want Wittman gone? Yes, oh God yes. Is Wittman the reason why this team hasn't gotten over .500 one time out of 4-5 tries? No.

The PLAYERS clearly have a mental block, they are mentally weak and too accustomed to failure.

Wittman getting fired is likely not going to happen until the end of the season. The players changing their mentality and giving consistent effort is something that can happen right now, and it isn't. That's what's so frustrating to me. If it's clear that Wittman has lost the team, then he needs to be fired right now. But I don't know if management is going to be convinced of that.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#272 » by nuposse04 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:33 am

dckingsfan wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:Awful loss. We're not going to win if Wall only shows up for the final 6 minutes of a game.

We now have losses to Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Utah. As a result, we're going to have to nut up and beat some of the best teams in the league just to stay around .500.

We really need a new coach.


We really need a new GM to pick the new coach.


We really need a new Owner to pick the new GM.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#273 » by TGW » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:33 am

I didn't know the coach was playing defense on Enes Kanter...maybe he should have though. Would have probably fared better than Gortat and Seraphin.
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Post#274 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:33 am

He was talking about the brick with 20 some odd seconds left .

Right decision by John. Beal just missed the shot
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Post#275 » by nuposse04 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:37 am

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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#276 » by TGW » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:37 am

Jay81 wrote:So much for all the optimism we had when Abe pollin died


Classless post.
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Post#277 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:38 am

LPHotspur wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
LPHotspur wrote:And there we go. Again, never learning from the same mistake time after time in the same situation. Wall is not the f ucking closer on this team. When they start giving the ball to Beal in these situations...things will change.


WALL Gave Beal the shot and he missed it by a mile for the game-tying shot.


Go check again. Because I just did, and that's not what happened. I really don't care how bad Beal is playing. At that point in the game, I'll take Beal any day. I can't recall one big shot in the final 5 seconds of a game that John has made.


Just checked it... Wall to Beal for the 3 and he was just off.
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Post#278 » by Jimmy Recard » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:39 am

GOG made a good point about Wall in a thread on the GB. Wall's problem isn't his jump shot, it's his love for it. With his size and speed, there is no excuse for the majority of his FGA being jumpers. His mentality EVERY TIME DOWN should be to attack the basket and either get a high percentage look at the rim, or collapse the defense and kick it out to the shooters/or dump it to one of the bigs. The jump shot should only be there to keep the defense honest from time to time. It sickens me that a guy with his gifts bails out defenses time and time again.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#279 » by hands11 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:40 am

Jimmy Recard wrote:
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Wall is not deserving of all star game


Hyperbole

He deserves to be an all star but tonight showed how immature he still is, and a long way away from being considered a good leader. He brought zero energy to begin with, refused to put pressure on the defense, missed jumper after jumper and spent the rest of the game sulking. He wasn't engaged in the game at all and he played with no intensity, and it rubbed off on the rest of the team.

Everyone played like ass except Ariza and Nene.


Amazing they could keep it that close with Temple giving them 14 minutes as their best PG.

Total suck no show game by Wall. He has to have ADD or something. I have no idea what he was doing out there. I would have sat his ass.
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Re: GT #43: WAS 21-21 in UTA 14-29, Sat Jan 25th 9pm, CSN+ 

Post#280 » by dlts20 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:41 am

you fans are so gullable. If this were the NFL or the Skins then everyone would be shredding him, If they lost to inept teams then they would want the coaches head that night. Everyone would be talking about how Shanny cant win without Elway, Witt is the new Zorn an so on. This system is a horrible system. So what if Kanter kills KS or Gortat.

Again, the #1 thing in the player vs coach argument or in basketball in general is your Franchise player. Does the coach make him better or worse. Witt is putting Wall in the worst system for him. Its not a Wall system. He can be an All Star because he's that good but in the right system he would look like an All NBA player. Then you have a pass 1st guy who took the blame after the game and the coach has a sit down with him of all people. Are you serious. You guys can let that slide but I wont. Ofcourse EG, Ted, and the players have blame but by far to me the worst part of our team right now is the head coach

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