Wizards Trade for Andre Miller

[pineappleheadindc]

Have you seen Nivek?
He's very ugly.

ROFL -- I was going to say that Kevin has a face made for radio. But then, who am I to say anything.

[miller31time]

Have you seen Nivek?
He's very ugly.

ROFL -- I was going to say that Kevin has a face made for radio. But then, who am I to say anything.

You're a beautiful former cheerleader for the Chicago Bulls.

[pineappleheadindc]

Have you seen Nivek?
He's very ugly.

ROFL -- I was going to say that Kevin has a face made for radio. But then, who am I to say anything.

You're a beautiful former cheerleader for the Chicago Bulls.

There are times, Miller, where I out-and-out worry about you.

But, since you insist......

[montestewart]

That evil third eye in her console is giving me the creeps

[AFM]

Talk about "out and out".

[fishercob]

Housekeeping note: the Wiz created a ~$2M trade exception with this deal.

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So wait, Wizards get Andre Miller for a 2nd round pick, and the Pacers get Turner for a 2nd round pick...

Most people seem very happy with EG's trade, but I don't understand. If Washington could have gotten Turner, who'd be a better PG, for a 2nd why Andre Miller?

Turner is not a good player. Miller is better. Even at age 37. Turner has yet to have a season as good as Miller's worst.

If Miller were younger, this would be a terrific addition -- he's one of the underrated players in this league. Might still be a good addition. Assuming he plays at the same level as earlier this season, he would certainly be worth his salary next year. And he would again be an asset at next year's trade deadline.

Except for giving up a pick, this would qualify as a good move.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Andre Miller may finally inspire Wall to act on his desire to incorporate a post-up game into his offensive repertoire...

Miller's a high quality upgrade off the bench.

I hope Miller does positively influence Wall.

Old Man game is based on position, leverage, balance, and using physicality in all kinds of guile full ways. Andre Miller can demonstrate a lot, hopefully, that John Wall hasn't learned yet to become an even more effective player.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Double post.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Let me know when this trade makes us better

Miller has been in the league 15 years. In those 15 years, he's never had a season as bad as Maynor's best season (or Temple's best season, for that matter). If he plays 5 more seasons, I doubt that will change. A slow-motion 37-year-old, who can't hit a three, is worlds better than your Tiger Beat Fave.

Miller's game has always depended on good decision making. Wall already has speed and good court vision, but he can learn a few things from Miller about running a half court offense. Plus, Miller rarely gets injured. That'll probably change with the Wizards, right?

Miller is slow. Mark Jackson was around a long time, with a game that was similar. Kidd played more years, also the last couple at a slow pace.

Maybe Andre Miller can escape the Wizards injury curse.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Nuggets piling up Wizards busts

Who wins this three - on - three?

Andre Miller, Al Harrington, Nene Hilario

Vs.

Randy Foye, Jan Vesely, and Javale McGee

the answer to that question is not particularly important.

Jim, is it something I have said or done?

Mr Spock?

You are telling me that you are not seeing the humor but your droll tone concerns me. I think I must have offended you.

PM me if this is true.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

someone earlier in the thread reminded us that Miller has been remarkable durable
in his career. Given his age, injuries are def a concern, but less a concern for someone
like Miller who's history has been quite good in that regard.

Miller has always played well. He's an excellent PG. And Ernie accomplished both his main goals: 1) look like you're doing something, and 2) get your mistakes out of town in trades rather than having to cut them -- which makes it kind of obvious they were mistakes (don't want that....).

If he plays, he'll be a plus. Even if he only plays a few weeks. He isn't the problem. The need to trade for him and to get rid of Ernie's stupidities -- that's the problem.

What did Ernie ultimately get from the #6 and #18 picks of the 2011 draft?

A three month rental of a 37 year old backup PG and a roster slot.

He also burned the BAE.

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[AFM]

I apologize for posting under the influence last night, but I don't take back calling monte and Nivek ugly. Who am I not to call a spade a spade?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Of course. Classic EG. Where's the "I give up" smiley?

this is such a classic Ernie move.....making a mad dash for mediocrity by trading big and young for old and small.
Braking all the cardinal rules. Granted Miller is an upgrade at the 2nd unit pg spot but without Veseley we're pretty thin at the 4/5 and not very big. EG screwed up royally with the Veseley pick but he was just starting to be semi productive. Watch Veseley blossom now ...reminds me of Rod Strickland for Rasheed Wallace. If theres an injury to Gortat or Nene who do we have on the bench now??? Booker at 6'7" or Seraphin at 6'9"?

EG is the king of the unimpressive trade and the king of bad draft picks. Fire his ass already.

to all the folks who are talking about breaking the Webber/Richmond rule, young/old/big/small,
Jan Vesely was/is NOT Chris Webber.

Agreed.

But I also know Vesely started with Seraphin and the Wizsrds won 8 of ten. The Wizards have changed philosophy. They acquired veterans making 13 and 14 million in Nene and Okafor. Booker came off injured time and supplanted guys who did start and win years ago. Nothing supported a wretched FT shooter, who at 23 years old had his confidence shattered. Vesely was asked to change position, too.

He's no Webber. But I saw his FIBA stats in games where he outplayed Marc Gasol and Marcin Gortat.

I saw the Dirk shot that Vesely made in Vegas. He was a very active rebounder in Vegas and FIBA. Vesely was much better than Otto. Jan was 23 in summer league. Young enough, as a big man, to markedly improve.

Vesely also had a stretch of productivity this season. He had 3 blocks and 3 steals in very limited minutes.

Jim, I made the old for young comments. I remember making many comments that were not well received.

All I have to say is that the Wizards are extremely wrong about Vesely.

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[Ruzious]

Housekeeping note: the Wiz created a ~$2M trade exception with this deal.

I'd rather have some extra towels and a mint on my pillow - as long as that doesn't subject me to a luxury tax. Thanks.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Do we really know what all the drama was about in Denver with him?

sounds mostly like he got upset about his games played streak ending
when he could have played. Arguably a little selfish but not the worst thing
in the world. He should play here and that should make him happy.

I do wonder how much he'll play though. I was thinking solely backup min
for John. But if the team does well when he's on the floor, presumably they
would adjust min accordingly.

I think Miller will become a great mentor to Wall. I expect playoffs will be when we get to see the best of Andre Miller.

This deal helps, but the costs and EG seemingly getting over bothers me.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

ROFL -- I was going to say that Kevin has a face made for radio. But then, who am I to say anything.

You're a beautiful former cheerleader for the Chicago Bulls.

There are times, Miller, where I out-and-out worry about you.

But, since you insist......

I know I have been alone too long...

Above is not a bad picture. I am a little worried about myself.

She must really be ... never mind.



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[fishercob]

I apologize for posting under the influence last night, but I don't take back calling monte and Nivek ugly. Who am I not to call a spade a spade?

FWIW, I always assume you're drunk.

[AFM]

I apologize for posting under the influence last night, but I don't take back calling monte and Nivek ugly. Who am I not to call a spade a spade?

FWIW, I always assume you're drunk.

I don't really know how to reply to this. Probably because it's not a bad assumption.