2014 Official FA Thread

[SunsFanSSOL]

Bledsoe has NEVER took over a game and made you say "damn, that dude is unstoppable." NEVER!! To get a max, you have to show that once in a while, no? His career high is 28 points

I guess Gerald Green is worth $20m a year then.

[JMac1]

Bledsoe has NEVER took over a game and made you say "damn, that dude is unstoppable." NEVER!! To get a max, you have to show that once in a while, no? His career high is 28 points

I guess Gerald Green is worth $20m a year then.

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

[JMac1]

It is not up to you. He does not have to prove anything to you - neither you nor I are in this equation. Long ago I stopped worrying about what he is going to get paid.

If I haven't seen it, the Suns personnel sure hasn't seen it.....so they are definitely not going to pay him just because!! No it's not up to me, but I trust my assessments and I believe the Suns see what I see and every last other person with eyes.

Bledsoe has NEVER took over a game and made you say "damn, that dude is unstoppable." NEVER!! To get a max, you have to show that once in a while, no? His career high is 28 points

You can attempt to argue that the Suns are thinking like you and they observe what you do. I do not buy it. And I doubt the Suns who see Bledsoe at practice, workouts, and watch hours of film to assess and evaluate him, which is far more than you'll ever see, agree with you. There is a reason they do what they do and you do whatever it is you do. They will pay him what they need to in order to retain his services with or without your approval.

So the Suns' saw Bledsoe take over games in practice Again

[SunsFanSSOL]

Bledsoe has NEVER took over a game and made you say "damn, that dude is unstoppable." NEVER!! To get a max, you have to show that once in a while, no? His career high is 28 points

I guess Gerald Green is worth $20m a year then.

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

[JMac1]

I guess Gerald Green is worth $20m a year then.

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

So weak!!

[JMac1]

I guess Gerald Green is worth $20m a year then.

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

[SunsFanSSOL]

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

So weak!!

Your reasoning against giving Bledsoe the money he deserves is weak. Bledsoe is going to get paid, period. Whether you think he deserves it or not is not something of concern to the Suns or to Bledsoe. If the Suns wrongly let Bledsoe leave, this team is put in a undesirable position. Outside of Goodwin, we really won't have any young guys worth building around and we'll be a .500 team with an average team age of 27, once again stuck in NBA purgatory. This team NEEDS to re-sign Bledsoe, for whatever amount it takes. And what harm is it if we "overpay" him? It's not like the Suns are paying any substantial amount of money to anyone else or will be doing so anytime soon. The FA market this year outside of the players that are unattainable (Carmelo, LeBron, Bosh) is unattractive. You have to spend money to win in this league.

[SunsFanSSOL]

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

Oh, I agree the Suns won't offer him the max, the Suns are notorious for being cheap and not keeping their free agents. The near-max is what he's going to be getting. They'll offer in the $12m range and that's what he deserves.

[JMac1]

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

Oh, I agree the Suns won't offer him the max, the Suns are notorious for being cheap and not keeping their free agents. The near-max is what he's going to be getting. They'll offer in the $12m range and that's what he deserves.

Maybe........ Bledsoe doesn't have that killer instinct. He is too passive for me.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

Oh, I agree the Suns won't offer him the max, the Suns are notorious for being cheap and not keeping their free agents. The near-max is what he's going to be getting. They'll offer in the $12m range and that's what he deserves.

Maybe........ Bledsoe doesn't have that killer instinct. He is too passive for me.

Well neither did Dragic until this year, although he has lacked it in recent games.

[thamadkant]

Bledsoe is just taking the safe road...

He is due for a contract, he already has a lot of GMs intrigued with his early play.
He is coming back from time off due to injury... He wants to be healthy 100% signing that big contract.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Like it or not Bledsoes getting a big contract this summer. It's a supply and demand thing. There's more teams with major cap room than big stars to pay. Some gm is going to throw a big contract at him with hopes he continues to take the leap. GMs take risks like this all the time because if it works out great they keep their job and if it doesn't then oh well because if they did nothing and their team sucks then they were getting fired anyway.

I'm fine with them "overpaying" to keep him. The deal would only be 4 years and should be right in the prime of his career. IMO this team can't afford to lose talent for nothing.

[JMac1]

Like it or not Bledsoes getting a big contract this summer. It's a supply and demand thing. There's more teams with major cap room than big stars to pay. Some gm is going to throw a big contract at him with hopes he continues to take the leap. GMs take risks like this all the time because if it works out great they keep their job and if it doesn't then oh well because if they did nothing and their team sucks then they were getting fired anyway.

I'm fine with them "overpaying" to keep him. The deal would only be 4 years and should be right in the prime of his career. IMO this team can't afford to lose talent for nothing.

Well Hornacek was on the radio this morning talking about the difference between Goran pushing the ball and Eric walking it up. It appears Hornacek favors Goran style right now at half of the cost of Bledsoe.

[bwgood77]

Like it or not Bledsoes getting a big contract this summer. It's a supply and demand thing. There's more teams with major cap room than big stars to pay. Some gm is going to throw a big contract at him with hopes he continues to take the leap. GMs take risks like this all the time because if it works out great they keep their job and if it doesn't then oh well because if they did nothing and their team sucks then they were getting fired anyway.

I'm fine with them "overpaying" to keep him. The deal would only be 4 years and should be right in the prime of his career. IMO this team can't afford to lose talent for nothing.

They do take risks and they do overpay free agents often. But you have to consider that many teams seem to be starting to be a little more careful with money now with the repeater tax rules kicking in. Also....

There are really not THAT many teams left that need a PG. The league seems to be full of good to great pgs right now. Of the teams that DO need a pg, not all of them have that enough cap space to offer a lot of money or they have high draft picks where they might address that need.

Toronto could create the cap space but it depends on what they do with Lowry. I don't necessarily see their GM paying too much for Bledsoe to let Lowry go. Lowry has played better this year than Bledsoe anyway. They also have Greivis Vasquez.

Orlando could give him an offer, but they have two lottery picks and young players. I think this is a possibility but JDLAW who feels he knows more than the rest of us, does not think they will give him a big offer.

The Lakers could give him a big offer, but they already have like $32 million invested in Kobe, and Pau is a free agent. They could let Pau go but then they need to spend something on a frontcourt. They also have Nash on the books for $9.7 million, so they really have less than $20 million for their frontcourt. They also may not want to give out any long term deals with Love and others on the market in 2015.

Milwaukee is the team that I could see offering him money, because they could use a pg, but they don't have quite enough cap space to give him the max right now.

Boston may want to go young, but they don't have the cap space either, and this would require trading Rondo too.

Sacramento keeps saying they want a pg, but unless Gay opts out, they don't have the space. They also have Isaiah Thomas, a high draft pick, and may trade for Rondo.

I just don't think there is much of a market for pgs right now, not to where people will be throwing around max deals. Possibly Orlando, LA or Toronto, but not probable.

I think the draft should tell us quite a bit about who MIGHT want to give him an offer, since most of the above teams have high picks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I wouldn't count out Philly as a Bledsoe destination. Mcw is big enough to play with Bledsoe. I think they are gonna have some pressure from the owner to speed up the rebuild after this years tank. Heck you could even see a team like Houston clear some room and try to make him their 3rd high price piece before they have to extend parsons.

It only takes one team to make a big offer. IMO the suns are determined to keep him. If not I really think they would have traded him at the deadline. Heck you would have to think they could have at the very least gotten affalo for him at the deadline. Would have helped Orlando tank and got them a young pg.

To me the problem with letting him go is there isn't that many other options to spend that money on. I'll lose all faith in this front office if they let him walk then hand out a couple of 5 mil offers to role players. It's always better to "overpay" the good players than properly pay dime a dozen role players.

[King4Day]

I never saw Green do that either....sure he hits threes when he is hot, but the dude can't dribble and is totally inconsistent, but if you want to put that weak ass attempt of an argument out there to challenge my post, then go ahead and look dumb doing it.

Green has taken over games. He took over the OKC game and scored 41 to give us a victory. By your logic that would constitute giving him a max contract, no?

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

It won't be the Suns who offer it but we'll probably be the ones who match it. It's pretty clear that the team is more complete with him. otherwise we just have one star (Dragic) who can't do it all on his own.

[thamadkant]

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

But Bledsoe may receive a MAX contract from another team and Suns simply just match... so technically Bledsoe did not receive a max contract from the Suns... but Suns still have to pay him max money.

[bwgood77]

I wouldn't count out Philly as a Bledsoe destination. Mcw is big enough to play with Bledsoe. I think they are gonna have some pressure from the owner to speed up the rebuild after this years tank. Heck you could even see a team like Houston clear some room and try to make him their 3rd high price piece before they have to extend parsons.

It only takes one team to make a big offer. IMO the suns are determined to keep him. If not I really think they would have traded him at the deadline. Heck you would have to think they could have at the very least gotten affalo for him at the deadline. Would have helped Orlando tank and got them a young pg.

To me the problem with letting him go is there isn't that many other options to spend that money on. I'll lose all faith in this front office if they let him walk then hand out a couple of 5 mil offers to role players. It's always better to "overpay" the good players than properly pay dime a dozen role players.

I don't think they will let them go. At least not just let him walk. MCW is a pretty bad shooter so I don't know that a backcourt with Bledsoe would be make a ton of sense.

I think Houston's pretty happy with Beverly and what he makes (less than a million). They are also going to have to trade Lin AND Asik and not take back salary to make a free agent offer and that may be pretty hard to do, especially with their balloon contracts.

[JMac1]

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

But Bledsoe may receive a MAX contract from another team and Suns simply just match... so technically Bledsoe did not receive a max contract from the Suns... but Suns still have to pay him max money.

That's my point. The Suns won't match a full max......that's the bet.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Edit: Lets bet a Suns' jersey that Eric Bledsoe will not receive a max contract from the Suns.

But Bledsoe may receive a MAX contract from another team and Suns simply just match... so technically Bledsoe did not receive a max contract from the Suns... but Suns still have to pay him max money.

That's my point. The Suns won't match a full max......that's the bet.

It's highly doubtful he gets the full max. People mentioned the Magic, but they're a cheap team (like the Suns) and are in the range to draft Exum or Smart. Bucks are the only competition that I see, but they already have Knight and they had their chance at Bledsoe earlier, and passed. Lakers could also be a threat, but it's highly unlikely they offer a max contract a season before Love becomes a FA.