2014 Free Agency Thread

[JDR720]

Cody has a PER of 12.72 and that is while shooting 40% if he shoots closer to 50% his PER would be just as good as Davis's if not better

[mrknowitall215]

That's too much money, if you ask me. I understand that you've got to pay up to receive proper value but Ed Davis isn't a fully proven guy. In my opinion, you try to find the high ceiling/hasn't reached it yet player who can be signed for a bargain and then hope he pans out, rather than over-paying one of them considering that the possibility of him not reaching his full potential is high.

I would take my chances on overpaying for the 24 year old North Carolina product that has a above average career PER (16.0) and has shown the ability to be a rim protector as well as shoot the midrange jump shot. Adding Davis to Charlotte's future outlook would take their defensive identity to another level

Would you target him as a future starter? If so, the sample size (a bench guy) has to be considered when looking at his PER.

Yes. I would target Ed Davis as a future starter. In the 58 out of 265 games that Davis has started, he's averaging 11 points on 54% shooting, 8 rebounds, and over 1 block per game. Also, in the 46 career games in which he has received over 30 minutes, he's averaged 13 points, 10 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks

[mrknowitall215]

Cody has a PER of 12.72 and that is while shooting 40% if he shoots closer to 50% his PER would be just as good as Davis's if not better

The keyword is 'if'. We could do a 'if' scenario to a particular stat that would upgrade the efficiency of each player on the roster

[BeesWax]

My target this summer would be Gordon Hayward. He is a very good complimentary scorer that needs people to help him get open looks. He would fit nicely between Kemba and MKG. I am not sure we can pry him from Utah but that would be my top target this summer.

[LamarMatic7]

My target this summer would be Gordon Hayward. He is a very good complimentary scorer that needs people to help him get open looks. He would fit nicely between Kemba and MKG. I am not sure we can pry him from Utah but that would be my top target this summer.

I'm terrified that some other team (or Utah itself) over-values him and his value gets driven way too up since he's sort of this summer's big deal as Jazz didn't choose to extend his contract.

[fatlever]

i think the jazz will definitely match offers for hayward. they should know better than anyone that his numbers this year are down due to him being asked to fill the role as the #1 scoring option (and point guard for a while). plus they lost star players for nothing last year. they cant afford to lose another star player.

i think hayward would be a great fit on our team, but it would take a massive overpay to get him. its probably not worth it. but if you gave me 10 mil per and told me i had to spend it a free agent wing, i'd give it to hayward. (it will take more than 10 mil per to get him out of utah though)

hayward seems like the perfect #3 option on a good playoff team. kemba, hayward, mkg, zeller, jefferson. i really like that lineup for the next 2-3 years.

[JDR720]

We could offer up to 15mill for Hayward but that is probably to much

[mrknowitall215]

My target this summer would be Gordon Hayward. He is a very good complimentary scorer that needs people to help him get open looks. He would fit nicely between Kemba and MKG. I am not sure we can pry him from Utah but that would be my top target this summer.

I'm terrified that some other team (or Utah itself) over-values him and his value gets driven way too up since he's sort of this summer's big deal as Jazz didn't choose to extend his contract.

Beware of Phoenix. I remember reading something to the extent that Hornacek has told their management that they should be willing to pay close to the max for Hayward's services

[HornetJail]

My target this summer would be Gordon Hayward. He is a very good complimentary scorer that needs people to help him get open looks. He would fit nicely between Kemba and MKG. I am not sure we can pry him from Utah but that would be my top target this summer.

I'm terrified that some other team (or Utah itself) over-values him and his value gets driven way too up since he's sort of this summer's big deal as Jazz didn't choose to extend his contract.

Phoenix said they'd offer him and Bledsoe max contracts this summer.

Idiots.

[BeesWax]

I don't agree with a max contract but he has way more value than Gordon who a lot of people wanted to get from NO.

[Elden Payton]

Cody has a PER of 12.72 and that is while shooting 40% if he shoots closer to 50% his PER would be just as good as Davis's if not better

The keyword is 'if'. We could do a 'if' scenario to a particular stat that would upgrade the efficiency of each player on the roster

I agree with you Mr. that if is the keyword in that equation, as a rookie who's efficiency has gone well north since he's switched to the good old garbage baskets strategy.

[MasterIchiro]

Would anyone trade the Pistons pick in a sign-and-trade for Gordon Hayward if Utah was willing to take back Henderson + Haywood in the deal?

2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets

Kemba Walker-PG
Gordon Hayward-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shaun Livingston-PG
Gary Neal-SG/James Young
Chris Douglas-Roberts-SF/James Young
Josh McRoberts-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C

[mrknowitall215]

Would anyone trade the Pistons pick in a sign-and-trade for Gordon Hayward if Utah was willing to take back Henderson + Haywood in the deal?

2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets

Kemba Walker-PG
Gordon Hayward-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shaun Livingston-PG
Gary Neal-SG/James Young
Chris Douglas-Roberts-SF/James Young
Josh McRoberts-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C

Yes. Even though that Detroit 1st rounder may turn into a top-10 (or even top-5) selection in the 2015 draft, the ideal of Utah taking Gerald Henderson off Charlotte's books for a massive upgrade in talent & fit with Gordon Hayward is worth it enough not to let hindsight be a concern

[HornetJail]

Would anyone trade the Pistons pick in a sign-and-trade for Gordon Hayward if Utah was willing to take back Henderson + Haywood in the deal?

2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets

Kemba Walker-PG
Gordon Hayward-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shaun Livingston-PG
Gary Neal-SG/James Young
Chris Douglas-Roberts-SF/James Young
Josh McRoberts-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C

No. Gordon Hayward at his price (because we have all heard what kind of ridiculous offers he'll get) is NOT worth a top 10 pick. I don't want Gordon Hayward at $12M. I'd rather trade something small for the expiring contract of Arron Afflalo and then try to retain him in 2015 free agency. Better player, probably better contract.

[MasterIchiro]

But Charlotte would be eliminating 8 million in the deal so why do you see it as Gordon Hayward for 12 M and not Gordon Hayward for 4 M?

The Pistons pick for Gordon Hayward at 4 M.

That sounds pretty enticing to me.

Henderson + Blazers pick for Afflalo is comparable but is it enough for the Magic?

[Elden Payton]

Hendo is no world beater but he is not worth throwing a potential top ten pick away, just to salary dump him.

Hayward can be had via free agency if the offer is big enough.

I really like him, but definitely wouldn't overpay for him.

[MasterIchiro]

It's exciting the team is one or two pieces away from being a force and very fortunate our current players have ties to upcoming free agents. Kemba knows Lance and Big Al knows Hayward. I feel both will put on the full court press to recruit these guys. And while we'll never have a "Big 3" that rivals a superteam, Kemba and Big Al can make that sales pitch and sound legit. We can nitpick their games but they have strong reputations around the league from the opponents who actually have to face them every night.

So next season I think our core will be:

Kemba
Big Al
Lance

or

Kemba
Big Al
Hayward

And you have to feel a sense of promise for their young supporting cast in Zeller, Biz and MKG. MKG has had a really disappointing season thus far considering the Mark Price hiring. The 2 others made massive strides.

[BlackOutBuzz]

^Price said this year the focus was on his feet, then they'll move on to other parts during the off-season. You definitely don't un-learn something like that in under a year.

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[Braggins]

I'm not sure why anyone is disappointed with MKG's season. He has already shown he is an elite defender and rebounder at his position at the age of 20. He has shown real promise in almost every other area of his game except his broken shot.

[MasterIchiro]

everyone expected the defense and rebounding.

Price was brought in changing the expectation of development on offense.

He has not developed whatsoever on offense.

It's not disappointing if you completely ignore it.