2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[SparksFly87]

Parker will declare in the next 7 days

I think he's staying at Duke to playing in the front court with his good friend Jalil Okafor. I can see Parker establishing himself at the 4 next year ending the talk of if he's a tweener.

Except at the NBA level where he will remain a tweener unless he grows a couple of inches. As it is he can't guard any position so his position doesn't matter all that much.

He is 6'8- 6'9 with a 7 ft wingspan . I don't see why not because he is definitely strong enough.

[sixers23]

he got benched at the end of games on defense against teams like mercer

[SixerFever215]

I don't think Parker is a tweener at all, not too surprised he went back to Duke.

[SparksFly87]

I don't think Parker is a tweener at all, not too surprised he went back to Duke.

Yeah he is a stretch 4. Like Julious Randle.

[Kobblehead]

Julius isn't a stretch four, he's a iso slash four.

[Agnostifarian]

Julius isn't a stretch four, he's a iso slash four.

So who worries about Randle killing ball movement and ball pounding? He is a good free throw shooter. I think he will develop a nice mid range jumper but stretch four may be a reach.

As for Parker, I'd like to see more point forward development. He should be able to punish defenses for doubling him. But, I think I keep trying to project him as a three and not a four.

I really want one of the Kansas guys.

[Kobblehead]

I think people should most definitely be concerned about Randle's ball stoppage. I mentioned a page back why Vonleh is the better pick because of his length and less maintenance in regards to usage.

[FlightBrothers]

So if Parker (like an idiot IMO) stays in school and we drop to #5

and Wiggins, Embiid, Exum, and Vonleh are off the board....I assume we take Randle as BPA

[FlightBrothers]

I really want one of the Kansas guys.[/quote]

I agree...This draft is all about Wiggins and Embiid IMO...Very good players availalbe after them, but I see them as clearly the cream of the crop coming out

[Kobblehead]

So if Parker (like an idiot IMO) stays in school and we drop to #5

and Wiggins, Embiid, Exum, and Vonleh are off the board....I assume we take Randle as BPA

Or you can cross your fingers and take a major reach hoping to hit a home run in Aaron Gordon. I personally would take Randle but Gordon is probably the Highest Upside Available.

[Bling76]

Marcus Smart would definitely be the BPA in that scenario. IMO he has the highest "floor" of anyone in the draft because of his physical tools, defense, and intangibles. Players of his ilk normally have really solid NBA careers. Whether or not he works for the Sixers is another story entirely.

[snoopdogg88]

just because a guys sucks on defense doesn't make him a "tweener" it just means he sucks on defense

[sixers23]

So if Parker (like an idiot IMO) stays in school and we drop to #5

and Wiggins, Embiid, Exum, and Vonleh are off the board....I assume we take Randle as BPA

i would offer thad and the pelicans pick or whatever we can offer to move into the top 3

[Sixerscan]

just because a guys sucks on defense doesn't make him a "tweener" it just means he sucks on defense

Well why does the guy suck on defense?

[Sixerscan]

Parker will declare in the next 7 days

I think he's staying at Duke to playing in the front court with his good friend Jalil Okafor. I can see Parker establishing himself at the 4 next year ending the talk of if he's a tweener.

And what, then he will be a top 3 pick in the draft next year? Because that's already happening.

[Kobblehead]

just because a guys sucks on defense doesn't make him a "tweener" it just means he sucks on defense

He doesn't have the quickness to attack from the wing offensively, either.

[PhilasFinest]

So if Parker (like an idiot IMO) stays in school and we drop to #5

and Wiggins, Embiid, Exum, and Vonleh are off the board....I assume we take Randle as BPA

Or you can cross your fingers and take a major reach hoping to hit a home run in Aaron Gordon. I personally would take Randle but Gordon is probably the Highest Upside Available.

This would be my logic as well....although I think there are legit arguments to be made for both Randle/Gordon.

Id still probably go with Randle....hes def got some developing to do(all the top guys do imo) in terms of learning the game and how to use his strengths to his advantage, but if he ever figured it out and refined his jumper he'd be an absolute nightmare for defenses. He should be able to rebound, score and get to the line at a pretty good clip pretty early on.

Gordon has a lot of developing too do, especially with position and his shooting. Randle is a straight up power forward, but Gordon somehow still thinks he can be a 3....He would be best suited to be groomed as an athletic PF where his handle,speed and athleticism are much bigger advantages. His defense was outstanding and impressive for a freshman, so his upside is also pretty damn high considering he could develop into a 2 way player.


Id be pretty bummed if we lost out on Wiggins/Embiid.....but if these guys are our "Worst Case" scenarios, i think our futures bright regardless...I have faith in Brown and his staff getting the best out of whoever we select.

[PhilasFinest]

Marcus Smart would definitely be the BPA in that scenario. IMO he has the highest "floor" of anyone in the draft because of his physical tools, defense, and intangibles. Players of his ilk normally have really solid NBA careers. Whether or not he works for the Sixers is another story entirely.

You'd take Smart over Randle and Gordon?

I don't think Smart would be a good fit here....Hes a combo guard,with a streaky jumper and excels driving to the basket. Him and MCW would both need immense improvements to there Jumpers to complement each other well, and we would need absolute sharpshooters at the 3/4 to make the lineup work.

Randle and Gordon are both much better prospects imo than Smart.

There physical tools are just as good,if not better for there positions than Smarts.

Both Randle and Gordon have extremely high ceilings.

[Kobblehead]

I think Randle and Smart are two players that will give you the most on their rookie deals. I'm betting you're going to be sitting 4 years down the road still having to pay Gordon for what he can be rather what he has shown he is.

I think Hinkie has to look long and hard and see if Gordon gives off the impression that he can be a quick developer.

[Skates]

I was more worried about Randle before seeing him in the tournament as far as him adapting to the NBA, but watching him in games where he was struggling with length I found him to be very adaptive and I think he will adapt to the NBA in time. He is a much better passer, with really great court vision from the post, the elbow and on drives. At times he took the ball at the elbow or high post and initiated offense from there via pass or drive. On post ups he kicked the ball back out except when he seemed to have an advantage over his defender. His FT form looks nice and from what was said of him coming out of HS, I expect the guy to develop a jump shot from necessity and hard work. I already like his handles for a big and his elusiveness inside. In a lot of ways Randle reminds me of a bigger, potenially stronger super-Thad, with a similar insane work ethic.

I still value Vonleh over Randle because he has superior size and length, an equal nose for rebounds and has already shown an ability to step out with his jumper, and to be effective at a lower usage rate, though that may rise as his offensive game progresses.

Gordon ever develeoping much of an offensive game to me seems like a lot more of a stretch. An Iggy like defender of bigs and open court scorer appears to be his game for now.

If Parker isn't a tweener then he is an undersized PF or oversized SF, whatever.