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Donald Sterling's punishment was...

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#501 » by Danny1616 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:58 pm

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Danny1616 wrote:He did say it earlier.

You just made an inverted argument. My point was that Sterling is a nut and a strict exception of the Jewish community. The fact that statistically speaking, the majority of Jews are emphatically liberal and have supported the democratic party in large numbers in nearly every election in the past hundred years is a testament to that. Moreover, Jews were disproportionally involved in the civil rights movement in the 1960s and stood side by side with African Americans in protest against the American government.

To make generalizations about Jews based on the actions of one individual is simply skewed.

That would be like me saying that African Americans have not learned about their past because Louis Farrakhan is an anti-Semite.


Israeli's liberal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA


Selective video?

Read the description of the video you just posted. It explicitly stated right-wing activists. These are the extreme sectors of Israeli society. Name me one country that does not have extreme right-wing nut jobs in society and the government. This does not characterize Israeli society as a whole. Far from it.

And also learn how to read. I was discussing American Jews, not Israeli Jews.

But regardless, I can do the same thing that you just did.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cggZu0QQUU[/youtube]

Oh look, now the Israeli people are nice and even have a show that discusses discrimination openly.
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Post#502 » by Mr. Natural » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:58 pm

Those same right wing nut jobs are in control of your country and government.

Though, I agree that Western Jews are mostly liberal.

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Post#503 » by Danny1616 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:01 pm

Mr. Natural wrote:Those same right wing nut jobs are in control of your country and government.

I agree that Western Jews are mostly liberal though.


It's a parliamentary proportional list system government so that does not make any sense.

Look at the current coalition.

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#504 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:06 pm

I asked you guys to stay on-topic.
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Post#505 » by OvertimeNO » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:30 pm

On topic: I know the NBA has to do something from a public relations standpoint, but it'll still ring pretty hollow to me considering it's been known for some time that Sterling holds these attitudes and the NBA never seemed to care. Which also makes me question more things about the entire foundation NBA than I care to while eating my crappy lunch at work.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#506 » by Forza Barca » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:33 pm

OvertimeNO wrote:On topic: I know the NBA has to do something from a public relations standpoint, but it'll still ring pretty hollow to me considering it's been known for some time that Sterling holds these attitudes and the NBA never seemed to care. Which also makes me question more things about the entire foundation NBA than I care to while eating my crappy lunch at work.


Unfortunately, I think many at the apex of power hold discriminatory views - they just never surface and they have an incredible PR team to make sure of that.
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Post#507 » by VanDamme » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:11 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AQUAhydrate/status/460834644049403904[/tweet]
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Post#508 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:22 pm

Anyone else think that Sterling may get popped for this? Gangs are known for moving "extraordinarily quickly" on their own investigations, they may get done before Silver.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#509 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:26 pm

Sterling's punishment will be that he can only play White players.
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Post#510 » by J-Roc » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:27 pm

Clippers Sponsors Drop The Team Over Allegedly Racist Owner

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/2 ... 26620.html

Insurance giant State Farm, carmaker Kia and AQUAHydrate, a company that sells enhanced water, are all reportedly suspending their sponsorships with the team.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#511 » by J-Roc » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:30 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Sterling's punishment will be that he can only play White players.


Don Cherry tried something like that years ago when he ran the Mississauga Ice Dogs OHL hockey team. No european players were allowed. I think the rule at the time was teams were allowed up to 2 euro players. It was a failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Cherry#Coaching_career
Cherry was the part-owner and the former coach of the Ontario Hockey League's Mississauga IceDogs. As owner and general manager, he gained notoriety by refusing to take part in the CHL import draft, and by only playing North American born players. The IceDogs' first three seasons were difficult ones with the team winning a total of 16 games combined. Cherry took over coaching duties in the fourth season. During Cherry's one season as head coach of the Mississauga IceDogs, the team managed 11 victories (only a slight improvement) and failed to make the playoffs for the fourth straight year. Cherry drew some criticism for his sudden decision to allow European born players onto the IceDogs line-up during the one season he coached the team.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#512 » by Local_NG_Idiot » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:37 pm

dTox wrote:People defending Stirling because of the way his GF exploited the tape is like defending a murderer because someone had taped the scene without his permission, the act in itself is disgusting and should be removed from society. And saying "this is old news, she isn't bringing anything new to the table" is exactly the kind of passive agressiveness that has allowed him to remain in ownership.


Did you just compare verbal comments to the act of murder? There is a huge chasm between the two right?

There is no crime in being an elitist jerk with a warped sense of societal equality, which Sterling has been guilty of, just social repercussions.

I think from a public moral standpoint some are raising the question of whether a private conversation between two people should be made public for all to judge.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#513 » by Homer Jay » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:03 pm

You get the feeling that Silver doesn't want to move on this quickly for legal reasons.

However the media and sponsors are forcing his hand.

League doesn't like it when Owners mess up because they don't have them under contracts to control their behaviour like they do players and team employees.

In the end I think Sterling gets forced out but makes a killing financially. Thems the breaks, kid.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#514 » by Raptorfan2012 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:04 pm

Homer Jay wrote:You get the feeling that Silver doesn't want to move on this quickly for legal reasons.

However the media and sponsors are forcing his hand.

League doesn't like it when Owners mess up because they don't have them under contracts to control their behaviour like they do players and team employees.

In the end I think Sterling gets forced out but makes a killing financially. Thems the breaks, kid.


.. so it pays to be a racist?
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#515 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:09 pm

I can't see Sterling keeping the team if it's a money losing decision for him. Other than gate, sponsorship, etc. taking a hit because of reputation, for example the NBA could threaten to void everyone's contracts. Without Paul and Blake the team's franchise value plummets hundreds of millions of dollars. The NBA needs to sit Sterling down and tell him what a bad decision keeping the Clippers is for him compared to getting out with his 1 billion+
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#516 » by josecasta2 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:03 pm

I know why the Jewish people hate black people. Because they weren't able to beat Hitler face to face, unlike Jesse Owens winning over Hitler's own turf at 1936 Olympics.

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#517 » by rumsomal » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:09 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
Mr. Natural wrote:Those same right wing nut jobs are in control of your country and government.

I agree that Western Jews are mostly liberal though.


It's a parliamentary proportional list system government so that does not make any sense.

Look at the current coalition.

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ppl should not be bringing Jews and Israel into this conversation because that is a complicated argument for example there are religious groups in Israel that are against the state of Israel, in a scenario like that it is easy to manipulate sides, this is a situation that involves a racist and an opportunist, the racist should be punished following an investigation, but for gods sake could magic Johnson not have waited a few weeks to announce his intentions to purchase the clippers even if it is with the help of Jewish or multicultural partners.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#518 » by RaptorJ » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:12 pm

josecasta2 wrote:I know why the Jewish people hate black people. Because they weren't able to beat Hitler face to face, unlike Jesse Owens winning over Hitler's own turf at 1936 Olympics.


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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#519 » by gerrit4 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:14 pm

Homer Jay wrote:You get the feeling that Silver doesn't want to move on this quickly for legal reasons.

However the media and sponsors are forcing his hand.

League doesn't like it when Owners mess up because they don't have them under contracts to control their behaviour like they do players and team employees.

In the end I think Sterling gets forced out but makes a killing financially. Thems the breaks, kid.


I can almost see it the other way around - Sterling is one of Silver's bosses - I think he'll have a hard time booting him from a legal standpoint, on something that may not be admissible as "evidence." But if sponsors, players & fans retaliate, they'll hit him where it hurts - his wallet. He's managed to run a profitable team in spite of being one of the cheapest owners, but I don't think that will last with this type of backlash, and he'll have to sell...
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#520 » by BballFan2014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:14 pm

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:Anyone else think that Sterling may get popped for this? Gangs are known for moving "extraordinarily quickly" on their own investigations, they may get done before Silver.


Sorry, what do you mean by popped? as in Sterling gets some how removed as owner? or he gets shot? lol

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