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Donald Sterling's punishment was...

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#521 » by dTox » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:14 pm

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dTox wrote:People defending Stirling because of the way his GF exploited the tape is like defending a murderer because someone had taped the scene without his permission, the act in itself is disgusting and should be removed from society. And saying "this is old news, she isn't bringing anything new to the table" is exactly the kind of passive agressiveness that has allowed him to remain in ownership.


Did you just compare verbal comments to the act of murder? There is a huge chasm between the two right?

There is no crime in being an elitist jerk with a warped sense of societal equality, which Sterling has been guilty of, just social repercussions.

I think from a public moral standpoint some are raising the question of whether a private conversation between two people should be made public for all to judge.


that was an overblown comparison, even I thought so but was lazy to go and change it, but you get the idea that the act in itself is disgusting and has no place in a league that's comprised of more than 50% coloured athletes (or in any league for that matter). His view point may have been private, and not illegal, hence why he isn't facing any legal charges, but it certainly doesn't excuse him from holding on to that team, there should be some standard to owning a team, and this crosses it.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#522 » by dTox » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:16 pm

J-Roc wrote:Clippers Sponsors Drop The Team Over Allegedly Racist Owner

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/2 ... 26620.html

Insurance giant State Farm, carmaker Kia and AQUAHydrate, a company that sells enhanced water, are all reportedly suspending their sponsorships with the team.


This sort of movement (when it involves losing a ton of $$) will probably force Mr. Stirling to sell the team, not the NBA forcing his hand (which I don't think they can legally?)
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#523 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:20 pm

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FluLikeSymptoms wrote:Anyone else think that Sterling may get popped for this? Gangs are known for moving "extraordinarily quickly" on their own investigations, they may get done before Silver.


Sorry, what do you mean by popped? as in Sterling gets some how removed as owner? or he gets shot? lol

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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#524 » by BballFan2014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:22 pm

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Homer Jay wrote:You get the feeling that Silver doesn't want to move on this quickly for legal reasons.

However the media and sponsors are forcing his hand.

League doesn't like it when Owners mess up because they don't have them under contracts to control their behaviour like they do players and team employees.

In the end I think Sterling gets forced out but makes a killing financially. Thems the breaks, kid.


I can almost see it the other way around - Sterling is one of Silver's bosses - I think he'll have a hard time booting him from a legal standpoint, on something that may not be admissible as "evidence." But if sponsors, players & fans retaliate, they'll hit him where it hurts - his wallet. He's managed to run a profitable team in spite of being one of the cheapest owners, but I don't think that will last with this type of backlash, and he'll have to sell...


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Yeah i dont think Silver can do much at this point, Sterling owns the clippers and hence is part of the elite few that cannot be touched by Silver. Sponsers/ Players and Fans are the once who have to now make sterling regret his disposition
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#525 » by KL78192020 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:26 pm

If more national sponsors start pulling out...sterling is done.
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Post#526 » by Risk101 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:32 pm

Magic Johnson is making a power move in trying to gather support in purchasing the L.A Clippers. I understand he doesn't like the views of Sterling and voiced his opinion about not attending anymore Clipper games as long as Sterling is the owner, and has now seen an opportunity in becoming an owner, which he has been looking to become now for years.

I truly believe his feelings towards this issue is genuine, but his business mind also sees this as an opportunity to gain grounds on owning a team.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#527 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:36 pm

Sterling won't sell. The only time that franchise will be sold is when he's dead.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#528 » by Homer Jay » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:45 pm

josecasta2 wrote:I know why the Jewish people hate black people. Because they weren't able to beat Hitler face to face, unlike Jesse Owens winning over Hitler's own turf at 1936 Olympics.

Totally inappropriate. Warning issued. - Rhett


On God's green earth, in my 38 years on the planet, this is literally the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard. What the BB said not Rhett, LOL.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#529 » by Homer Jay » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:50 pm

gerrit4 wrote:
Homer Jay wrote:You get the feeling that Silver doesn't want to move on this quickly for legal reasons.

However the media and sponsors are forcing his hand.

League doesn't like it when Owners mess up because they don't have them under contracts to control their behaviour like they do players and team employees.

In the end I think Sterling gets forced out but makes a killing financially. Thems the breaks, kid.


I can almost see it the other way around - Sterling is one of Silver's bosses - I think he'll have a hard time booting him from a legal standpoint, on something that may not be admissible as "evidence." But if sponsors, players & fans retaliate, they'll hit him where it hurts - his wallet. He's managed to run a profitable team in spite of being one of the cheapest owners, but I don't think that will last with this type of backlash, and he'll have to sell...


Well if sponsors pull out of the league and not just out of the Clippers because of this, could Silver not assume control of the team, because it threatens the entire league and not just Sterling? He could say he is devaluing the entire NBA not just the Clippers. Remember these are franchises and is there not a franchise agreement that they sign to get in the club? There must be something somewhere that contains some language about the league being able to step in and assume control.

Also if the league fails to act, could they face lawsuits from Clippers Employees about maintaining a hostile work environment?
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Post#530 » by Rhettmatic » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:50 pm

Well at least The Onion has weighed in.

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By now, I’m sure you have heard a tape recently leaked to TMZ and Deadspin, or read a transcript of the recorded conversation, in which an unknown man condemns his girlfriend for associating with black people. It is, in fact, the top story in the news as we speak. However, at this early juncture, we must keep in mind that the the recording of this anonymous individual remains unauthenticated. But while it is as yet impossible to say who that voice actually belongs to, I have to admit that the person in question certainly made some compelling points.

The bottom line is that there’s a significant chance we may never know with certainty the identity of the man in that recording. Audio forensics is an imprecise field and the quality of the recording is not superb. However, the one thing we can say with certitude about that anonymous voice is that it is a voice of reason. Indeed, within moments of listening to the audio, I was struck by the speaker’s commanding tone and his courage to speak difficult truths.

I must say, it is hard to listen to this man’s words and not be left in a state of awe at his evident intelligence and his unassailable rationale
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#531 » by sweetcity » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:47 pm

Am I the only one that thinks this is pretty overblown? I dont get what he said that is that bad. He wants his girlfriend to be a posh white girl and not be posting photos on instagram of a hip hop lifestyle. I dont think thats actually racist. Sterling has a track record of being racist, if another owner said this it wouldnt be nearly as bad
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#532 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:52 pm

sweetcity wrote:Am I the only one that thinks this is pretty overblown?


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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#533 » by beachbean » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:07 pm

sweetcity wrote:Am I the only one that thinks this is pretty overblown? I dont get what he said that is that bad. He wants his girlfriend to be a posh white girl and not be posting photos on instagram of a hip hop lifestyle. I dont think thats actually racist. Sterling has a track record of being racist, if another owner said this it wouldnt be nearly as bad


Wanting his half latina/half black girlfriend to be a posh "white" girl and not have a "hip hop" lifestyle sounds pretty damn racist to me
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#534 » by Risk101 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:16 pm

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Patman wrote:This is exactly what's wrong with society today. I'm not just talking about Sterling, but Silver too. It's all about the power of the dollar. Silver promised quick and decisive action, that's all just lip service.

In reality, what they're doing is "How can we contain this and downplay it and cover it up as much as possible?"

It's like the Donaghy situation all over again.



David Stern IMO would have acted a little faster with atleast banning Sterling to anymore games upon verification of the alleged tapes. The allegations are to harsh and severe for Silver not to, in the minimum capacity, ban him from attending anymore matches until further notice.

He's still learning how to handle situations but he dropped the ball big time on this one. He has shown that in crucial situations as these, he crumbles under pressure. Horrible start as the commissioner of the NBA.


lol it's been what, 2-3 days since the release of the audio?
patience kids. You should learn that things need to be evaluated appropriately before you make any dumb decisions.


Corporate sponsorships have already dropped Sterling and the Clipper organization, he has been under investigations for similar allegations towards not renting to minorities, specifically blacks and Hispanics, in which he settled for 2 millions dollars, and former players like Baron Davis have accused Sterling for having animosity towards him, what more do you need?

The allegations alone have had severe repercussions and players are calling for some sort of action.

If an NBA player made any of those allegations he would be suspended pending an investigation, why wouldn't the same apply to the owners?
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Post#535 » by hell_razor » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:19 pm

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Risk101 wrote:

David Stern IMO would have acted a little faster with atleast banning Sterling to anymore games upon verification of the alleged tapes. The allegations are to harsh and severe for Silver not to, in the minimum capacity, ban him from attending anymore matches until further notice.

He's still learning how to handle situations but he dropped the ball big time on this one. He has shown that in crucial situations as these, he crumbles under pressure. Horrible start as the commissioner of the NBA.


lol it's been what, 2-3 days since the release of the audio?
patience kids. You should learn that things need to be evaluated appropriately before you make any dumb decisions.


Corporate sponsorships have already dropped Sterling and the Clipper organization, he has been under investigations for similar allegations towards not renting to minorities, specifically blacks and Hispanics, in which he settled for 2 millions dollars, and former players like Baron Davis have accused Sterling for having animosity towards him, what more do you need?

The allegations alone have had severe repercussions and players are calling for some sort of action.

If an NBA player made any of those allegations he would be suspended pending an investigation, why wouldn't the same apply to the owners?


They are holding a press conference tomorrow at 2pm and will announce the sanctions
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Post#536 » by basketball royalty » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:22 pm

Homer Jay wrote:You get the feeling that Silver doesn't want to move on this quickly for legal reasons.

However the media and sponsors are forcing his hand.

League doesn't like it when Owners mess up because they don't have them under contracts to control their behaviour like they do players and team employees.

In the end I think Sterling gets forced out but makes a killing financially. Thems the breaks, kid.



It is what it is, he has been rich for a long time and it hasn't made him a better person for it. Let the old bigot have all his money because it is all he will have.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#537 » by Risk101 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:24 pm

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lol it's been what, 2-3 days since the release of the audio?
patience kids. You should learn that things need to be evaluated appropriately before you make any dumb decisions.


Corporate sponsorships have already dropped Sterling and the Clipper organization, he has been under investigations for similar allegations towards not renting to minorities, specifically blacks and Hispanics, in which he settled for 2 millions dollars, and former players like Baron Davis have accused Sterling for having animosity towards him, what more do you need?

The allegations alone have had severe repercussions and players are calling for some sort of action.

If an NBA player made any of those allegations he would be suspended pending an investigation, why wouldn't the same apply to the owners?


They are holding a press conference tomorrow at 2pm and will announce the sanctions


2 days to late.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#538 » by uniballer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:41 pm

I don't get all the sudden outrage. It has been known for years that Sterling is a racist prick. He is the same guy who wouldn't rent to African Americans because he said they are dirty and attract vermin. All this outrage from social media and the like over the phone call doesn't get to the bigger problem... That is why this outrage didn't happen sooner. He has never been one of the good guys for the league and exploited women and minorities his whole tenure. I'm sure the NBA is going to make a big show of this and bring the hammer down on the **** but each owner has to look at themselves in the mirror because they knew how this guy was and his beliefs and they did **** all about it. Now that the cat is out of the bag they have to put on the holier than thou act and damage control this to the extreme.
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Post#539 » by Ponchos » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:48 pm

uniballer wrote:I don't get all the sudden outrage. It has been known for years that Sterling is a racist prick. He is the same guy who wouldn't rent to African Americans because he said they are dirty and attract vermin. All this outrage from social media and the like over the phone call doesn't get to the bigger problem... That is why this outrage didn't happen sooner. He has never been one of the good guys for the league and exploited women and minorities his whole tenure. I'm sure the NBA is going to make a big show of this and bring the hammer down on the **** but each owner has to look at themselves in the mirror because they knew how this guy was and his beliefs and they did **** all about it. Now that the cat is out of the bag they have to put on the holier than thou act and damage control this to the extreme.


There's a difference between knowing someone is a racist based on hearsay and anecdotal evidence, and actually having a recording and definitive proof. Think Mel Gibson.
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Re: Donald Sterling is a Racist how will Silver react. 

Post#540 » by uniballer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:53 pm

Ponchos wrote:
uniballer wrote:I don't get all the sudden outrage. It has been known for years that Sterling is a racist prick. He is the same guy who wouldn't rent to African Americans because he said they are dirty and attract vermin. All this outrage from social media and the like over the phone call doesn't get to the bigger problem... That is why this outrage didn't happen sooner. He has never been one of the good guys for the league and exploited women and minorities his whole tenure. I'm sure the NBA is going to make a big show of this and bring the hammer down on the **** but each owner has to look at themselves in the mirror because they knew how this guy was and his beliefs and they did **** all about it. Now that the cat is out of the bag they have to put on the holier than thou act and damage control this to the extreme.


There's a difference between knowing someone is a racist based on hearsay and anecdotal evidence, and actually having a recording and definitive proof. Think Mel Gibson.


I can see what you are saying and don't think I am making lite of the recent release of his racist remarks. I am just saying that alot of people condemning now had to of known what a scumbag this guy really was.
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