Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong

[hands11]

True. Anybody still have a transcript of that conversation? No? I guess we'll have to check with Abe. Oh wait!

The Wizards have traded quite a few draft picks. This blaming everything on Abe is getting a little old.

Actually we do. Its all in the a thread where it was debated at length.

Rather than taking you back behind the facts shed again, I'm just going to say, "Peace, Wizards fan."

Why don't we do the Wiz fan thing for now. Agreed. The fact shed will be there to dust off over your head at a later date

[Deivy202]

Like it or not we have two young players in wall and beal and potentially porter jr. Gortat has some yeara left and nene looks healthy too


I think ernie will try and sign a big splash player he trys to always trade for one so he isnt that bad I mean yes he sucks but maybe hes finally learning more idk.


All I know is this off season he will have some choices

[bealwithit]

Like it or not we have two young players in wall and beal and potentially porter jr. Gortat has some yeara left and nene looks healthy too


I think ernie will try and sign a big splash player he trys to always trade for one so he isnt that bad I mean yes he sucks but maybe hes finally learning more idk.


All I know is this off season he will have some choices

Yeah, I think what he does this offseason will decide his fate. If he goes out and makes some disastrous decisions then he will be out soon enough. I don't think he will though. I hope...

[hands11]

Like it or not we have two young players in wall and beal and potentially porter jr. Gortat has some yeara left and nene looks healthy too


I think ernie will try and sign a big splash player he trys to always trade for one so he isnt that bad I mean yes he sucks but maybe hes finally learning more idk.


All I know is this off season he will have some choices

Yeah, I think what he does this offseason will decide his fate. If he goes out and makes some disastrous decisions then he will be out soon enough. I don't think he will though. I hope...

Not sure it will work that way. His contract should be up just about now. He isn't making any other moves until after he is extended, if he is.

Will he get extended ?

And for the two years Leonsis has owned the team, Grunfeld has followed through on orders to build through the draft, acquire young talent and keep the team financially flexible going forward.

Ted’s Take. He wrote: “Ernie’s performance is evaluated based on the strategy we jointly established and his ability to execute that strategy. When we purchased the Wizards, I felt it was necessary to revamp and change the direction of the team; Ernie has led that charge and embraced our new philosophy.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

I said it many many times. Who your owner is can make a huge different. Owner are usually setting the overall course. Win now vs rebuilt and if rebuilding... how and over what time period. Owner decide if they will sign a max like Wall a year early(Ted) or sign Gil to max while injured(Abe). Owners sign off on trading conditional first round picks for vets like Gortat on short notice. They set the mandate. There may be some organization were the GM has more control like it appears NY is trying to do, but that's not what we have here.

If they will wait on Otto or trade him will happen or not with Teds approval.

Owners decide when a reboot happens. When to be patient. When to cash in. When to go over the cap.

GMs execute the plan. They help form it as well, but anyone that has a boss/owner knows, you only have as much control as they give you. Its their money. Its their business.

[closg00]

Yes, but that was Abe. And I hated the idea at the time. But, that was a dying Abe demanding they do it. You can't count that against Ted.

True. Anybody still have a transcript of that conversation? No? I guess we'll have to check with Abe. Oh wait!

The Wizards have traded quite a few draft picks. This blaming everything on Abe is getting a little old.

Actually we do. Its all in the a thread where it was debated at length.

Somebody has to call you out on this bunk Hands. No-matter how-many times you get burned on this point, you continue to trot it out. Please post for the board now, quotes from Abe where he performs the function of both Owner and GM. We are still waiting for it hands. We need something more than you musings/conjecture.

[milellie111]

Wonder why this wasn't posted yesterday??!

“I thought Randy [Wittman] did a great job. They have a great young team. Ernie [Grunfeld] has done a great job putting that team together. They play hard and they play well. They play together,” Thibodeau said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2014/04/30/chicagos-joakim-noah-on-wizards-they-had-no-holes-on-that-team/?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'm guessing one of the best coaches in the league is also an idiot, troll and delusional moron. Thibodeau's words above, not mine.

Last night during the Spurs/Mavs game when asked on the air who is the favorite team to take down Miami in the East, Steve Kerr replied "The Washington Wizards. No one has the speed to get up and down the court like they do."

[montestewart]

Wonder why this wasn't posted yesterday??!

“I thought Randy [Wittman] did a great job. They have a great young team. Ernie [Grunfeld] has done a great job putting that team together. They play hard and they play well. They play together,” Thibodeau said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2014/04/30/chicagos-joakim-noah-on-wizards-they-had-no-holes-on-that-team/?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'm guessing one of the best coaches in the league is also an idiot, troll and delusional moron. Thibodeau's words above, not mine.

Last night during the Spurs/Mavs game when asked on the air who is the favorite team to take down Miami in the East, Steve Kerr replied "The Washington Wizards. No one has the speed to get up and down the court like they do."

Not a troll at all. Thibodeau, in his humility, is quite gracious.

[Nivek]

Wonder why this wasn't posted yesterday??!

“I thought Randy [Wittman] did a great job. They have a great young team. Ernie [Grunfeld] has done a great job putting that team together. They play hard and they play well. They play together,” Thibodeau said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2014/04/30/chicagos-joakim-noah-on-wizards-they-had-no-holes-on-that-team/?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'm guessing one of the best coaches in the league is also an idiot, troll and delusional moron. Thibodeau's words above, not mine.

It's really unkind (and dare I say, uncool?) to call an NBA coach an idiot, troll or moron. C'mon Millie -- have some class!

Thibodeau was probably just trying to be gracious to the team that had just beaten his team. It's called sportsmanship.

Last night during the Spurs/Mavs game when asked on the air who is the favorite team to take down Miami in the East, Steve Kerr replied "The Washington Wizards. No one has the speed to get up and down the court like they do."

I guess Kerr never heard of this guy:


























Cool uniforms too.

[milellie111]

Wonder why this wasn't posted yesterday??!

“I thought Randy [Wittman] did a great job. They have a great young team. Ernie [Grunfeld] has done a great job putting that team together. They play hard and they play well. They play together,” Thibodeau said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2014/04/30/chicagos-joakim-noah-on-wizards-they-had-no-holes-on-that-team/?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'm guessing one of the best coaches in the league is also an idiot, troll and delusional moron. Thibodeau's words above, not mine.

It's really unkind (and dare I say, uncool?) to call an NBA coach an idiot, troll or moron. C'mon Millie -- have some class!

Thibodeau was probably just trying to be gracious to the team that had just beaten his team. It's called sportsmanship.

Last night during the Spurs/Mavs game when asked on the air who is the favorite team to take down Miami in the East, Steve Kerr replied "The Washington Wizards. No one has the speed to get up and down the court like they do."

No Nivek, i wasn't calling Thibodeau that. That's what TGW and others called me when i made this thread. Tom is saying basically the same thing that I have been saying, so that means those posters (with the exception of hands and DCZards) must disregard his views and credibility as well.

[montestewart]

Good to have these guidelines clear going forward.

[sfam]

Personally I think Abe was probably responsible for the Jav Vesely pick.

[Nivek]

Wonder why this wasn't posted yesterday??!

“I thought Randy [Wittman] did a great job. They have a great young team. Ernie [Grunfeld] has done a great job putting that team together. They play hard and they play well. They play together,” Thibodeau said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2014/04/30/chicagos-joakim-noah-on-wizards-they-had-no-holes-on-that-team/?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'm guessing one of the best coaches in the league is also an idiot, troll and delusional moron. Thibodeau's words above, not mine.

It's really unkind (and dare I say, uncool?) to call an NBA coach an idiot, troll or moron. C'mon Millie -- have some class!

Thibodeau was probably just trying to be gracious to the team that had just beaten his team. It's called sportsmanship.

Last night during the Spurs/Mavs game when asked on the air who is the favorite team to take down Miami in the East, Steve Kerr replied "The Washington Wizards. No one has the speed to get up and down the court like they do."

No Nivek, i wasn't calling Thibodeau that. That's what TGW and others called me when i made this thread. Tom is saying basically the same thing that I have been saying, so that means those posters (with the exception of hands and DCZards) must disregard his views and credibility as well.

My mistake.

[Dat2U]

Wonder why this wasn't posted yesterday??!

“I thought Randy [Wittman] did a great job. They have a great young team. Ernie [Grunfeld] has done a great job putting that team together. They play hard and they play well. They play together,” Thibodeau said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2014/04/30/chicagos-joakim-noah-on-wizards-they-had-no-holes-on-that-team/?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'm guessing one of the best coaches in the league is also an idiot, troll and delusional moron. Thibodeau's words above, not mine.

It's really unkind (and dare I say, uncool?) to call an NBA coach an idiot, troll or moron. C'mon Millie -- have some class!

Thibodeau was probably just trying to be gracious to the team that had just beaten his team. It's called sportsmanship.

Last night during the Spurs/Mavs game when asked on the air who is the favorite team to take down Miami in the East, Steve Kerr replied "The Washington Wizards. No one has the speed to get up and down the court like they do."

No Nivek, i wasn't calling Thibodeau that. That's what TGW and others called me when i made this thread. Tom is saying basically the same thing that I have been saying, so that means those posters (with the exception of hands and DCZards) must disregard his views and credibility as well.

Your not just a troll. Your the worst type of troll because you've selfishly used the Wizards success as platform for you to continue to play the same broken record you've played for months.

Your worst type of troll because there is absolutely nothing else you ever talk about. You don't talk about specific players. You don't talk about lineups or match ups. You don't talk about game plans or what you'd like to see done. You've got one argument. The same argument you've made in almost all of your posts.

[tontoz]

It is SOP for opposing players/coaches to complement the other team after a game. This has been going on as long as i can remember. Just another way to promote the game.

In Thibs' case it certainly wouldn't make much sense to trash the team that just took him out in 5 games.

[dobrojim]

unless you want to look like a complete ass

[TGW]

Your not just a troll. Your the worst type of troll because you've selfishly used the Wizards success as platform for you to continue to play the same broken record you've played for months.

Your worst type of troll because there is absolutely nothing else you ever talk about. You don't talk about specific players. You don't talk about lineups or match ups. You don't talk about game plans or what you'd like to see done. You've got one argument. The same argument you've made in almost all of your posts.

But to be fair to millelie, he has shown some diversity in his posts:

milellie111 wrote:
Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.

[milellie111]

It's really unkind (and dare I say, uncool?) to call an NBA coach an idiot, troll or moron. C'mon Millie -- have some class!

Thibodeau was probably just trying to be gracious to the team that had just beaten his team. It's called sportsmanship.

No Nivek, i wasn't calling Thibodeau that. That's what TGW and others called me when i made this thread. Tom is saying basically the same thing that I have been saying, so that means those posters (with the exception of hands and DCZards) must disregard his views and credibility as well.

Your not just a troll. Your the worst type of troll because you've selfishly used the Wizards success as platform for you to continue to play the same broken record you've played for months.

Your worst type of troll because there is absolutely nothing else you ever talk about. You don't talk about specific players. You don't talk about lineups or match ups. You don't talk about game plans or what you'd like to see done. You've got one argument. The same argument you've made in almost all of your posts.

Sure:

I think Wittman deserves credit for playing Booker over Gortat late when obviously Gortat was not effective. Huge decision that aided in a big win.

Very proud of Beal and the way he has matured. Only 20 years old and and will only get better!! Can't wait to see how his game continues to develop as he becomes more aggressive. Thank goodness Charlotte took Kidd-Gilchrist!!

First off, congratulations to our guys for winning a gritty tough series against a tough Chicago team. Wizards really showed growth and maturity. This was no cakewalk even without Rose and Deng. The series could easily be tied right now but due to improved coaching and hustle play, Washington advances to the 2nd round.

This thread is not just a congratulatory thread, however it is to focus on Round 2 and who we will be playing whether it be Atlanta or Indiana.

What are your thoughts on what this team needs to improve from the first round in coaching and on court performance? How do we match up with the Hawks? How do we match up with the Pacers? What would be the keys to winning round two taking into consideration both Atlanta or the Pacers as possibilities?

Beal, and it's not even close. His clutch scoring in the 4th was the difference in the game. Incredible the way he played to send the game into OT.

I would actually say Nene because he played great all game and closed out the overtime with those huge points.

[payitforward]

Yeah, but you've also written:

OMG why is Wall committing so many turnovers -- he's just about the most over-rated player in the league!

and

Beal's neck is too short. Short-necked player never pan out. I know because I was a short-necked player before I quit the game and joined Ernie's payroll.

And on top of that you bite the hand that feeds you!

However magnificent Ernie is, he allocates his money very poorly. Do you know how little he pays me?

and worst of all

People who don't agree with me are jerks. In fact, people who make a point of not agreeing with other people who have no idea what they are talking about, you know... people like me?, are all jerks.

Ok, they're right not to agree -- but they are still jerks!

I just don't understand how any self-respecting troll can post those kind of remarks. Have you thought about taking correspondence school courses on Internet trolling?

[TGW]

And the hits keep coming...I swear this stuff is GOLD!

[dckingsfan]

And the hits keep coming...I swear this stuff is GOLD!

I know, it just makes me laugh out load... really way too funny.