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Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40)

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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1581 » by mappiah19 » Fri May 2, 2014 4:40 am

Apparently, Sterling has cancer. According to espn
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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1582 » by CashMoney604 » Fri May 2, 2014 4:48 am

I hate Sterling.. But i hate Cancer more.
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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1583 » by emphatikdunker » Fri May 2, 2014 5:33 am

Risk101 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/chrismannixsi/status/462000860772302848[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/chrismannixsi/status/462001457349541888[/tweet]


interesting development......Looks like this was the slippery slope Cuban could have been referring to.

Lets deal in some hypotheticals.
Lets say some dirt is found on a bunch of other owners. What then? What if some dirt was found on James Dolan?
Would there be a point where players wouln't voice their concerns for the sake of preserving their paycheques?

These are tough questions to answer


What about the invested interest Nike & Adidas have with the league? Do the players not know who makes those shoes? Does Lebron not know that he is being payed by NIKE on the backs of lil Asian kids?
So Lebron is not okay with racism but he's ok with a $300 million contract from NIKE on the backs of child labour?
We need to really think twice before taking the moral ground. Every single one of these star players that have contracts from NIKE and ADIDAS are arguably more guilty than Sterling.


So when I hear Charles Barkley say, "an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere", it makes me wonder.....
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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1584 » by Inevitable » Fri May 2, 2014 5:38 am

Please expose our corporate owners. Rogers and Bell been getting away for too much for too long.
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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1585 » by emphatikdunker » Fri May 2, 2014 5:39 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5uYCWVfuPQ[/youtube]

what i was talking about earlier....
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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1586 » by Risk101 » Fri May 2, 2014 5:42 am

emphatikdunker wrote:
Risk101 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/chrismannixsi/status/462000860772302848[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/chrismannixsi/status/462001457349541888[/tweet]


interesting development......Looks like this was the slippery slope Cuban could have been referring to.

Lets deal in some hypotheticals.
Lets say some dirt is found on a bunch of other owners. What then? What if some dirt was found on James Dolan?
Would there be a point where players wouln't voice their concerns for the sake of preserving their paycheques?

These are tough questions to answer


What about the invested interest Nike & Adidas have with the league? Do the players not know who makes those shoes? Does Lebron not know that he is being payed by NIKE on the backs of lil Asian kids?
So Lebron is not okay with racism but he's ok with a $300 million contract from NIKE on the backs of child labour?
We need to really think twice before taking the moral ground. Every single one of these star players that have contracts from NIKE and ADIDAS are arguably more guilty than Sterling.


So when I hear Charles Barkley say, "an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere", it makes me wonder.....

•1997: College students around the country began protesting the company.
•1998: Nike faces weak demand and unrelenting criticism. It has to lay off workers, and begins to realize it needs to change.
•The real shift begins with a May 1998 speech by then-CEO Phil Knight. “The Nike product has become synonymous with slave wages, forced overtime, and arbitrary abuse,” Knight said. “I truly believe the American consumer doesn’t want to buy products made under abusive conditions.”
•At that speech, he announces Nike will raise the minimum age of workers; significantly increase monitoring; and will adapt U.S. OSHA clean air standards in all factories.
•1999: Nike begins creating the Fair Labor Association, a non-profit group that combines companies, and human rights and labor representatives to establish independent monitoring and a code of conduct, including a minimum age and a 60-hour work week, and pushes other brands to join.
•2002-2004: The company performs some 600 factory audits between 2002 and 2004, including repeat visits to problematic factories.
•2004: Human rights activists acknowledge that increased monitoring efforts at least deal with some of the worst problems, like locked factory doors and unsafe chemicals, but issues still remain.
•2005: Nike becomes the first in its industry to publish a complete list of the factories it contracts with.
•2005: Nike publishes a detailed 108-page report revealing conditions and pay in its factories and acknowledging widespread issues, particularly in its south Asian factories.
•2005-Present: The company continues to post its commitments, standards, and audit data as part of its corporate social responsibility reports.

Just a little more info on the allegations of child labor and Nike.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-nike ... lem-2013-5
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Post#1587 » by emphatikdunker » Fri May 2, 2014 6:07 am

Risk101 wrote:•1997: College students around the country began protesting the company.
•1998: Nike faces weak demand and unrelenting criticism. It has to lay off workers, and begins to realize it needs to change.
•The real shift begins with a May 1998 speech by then-CEO Phil Knight. “The Nike product has become synonymous with slave wages, forced overtime, and arbitrary abuse,” Knight said. “I truly believe the American consumer doesn’t want to buy products made under abusive conditions.”
•At that speech, he announces Nike will raise the minimum age of workers; significantly increase monitoring; and will adapt U.S. OSHA clean air standards in all factories.
•1999: Nike begins creating the Fair Labor Association, a non-profit group that combines companies, and human rights and labor representatives to establish independent monitoring and a code of conduct, including a minimum age and a 60-hour work week, and pushes other brands to join.
•2002-2004: The company performs some 600 factory audits between 2002 and 2004, including repeat visits to problematic factories.
•2004: Human rights activists acknowledge that increased monitoring efforts at least deal with some of the worst problems, like locked factory doors and unsafe chemicals, but issues still remain.
•2005: Nike becomes the first in its industry to publish a complete list of the factories it contracts with.
•2005: Nike publishes a detailed 108-page report revealing conditions and pay in its factories and acknowledging widespread issues, particularly in its south Asian factories.
•2005-Present: The company continues to post its commitments, standards, and audit data as part of its corporate social responsibility reports.

Just a little more info on the allegations of child labor and Nike.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-nike ... lem-2013-5



Now workers making Nike's Converse shoes at a factory in Indonesia say they are being physically and mentally abused.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nesia.html

this article is 6 years after "2005". They still have factories that dont follow these guidelines. Quite frankly this is the skeleton in the closet corporatism leaves behind. Audits are a joke- both internal and third party. You're warned in advance of audit dates, and production is brought to an unusually comfortable pace to pass the audit. As soon as the auditor is out of the door, its business as usual.

Noone cares about these workers. And upper management at just about any big company only pretend to, for PR purposes. There's all sorts of ways to pass audits, maintain the status quo, and deflect responsibilities to contractors.

The point is Sterling was painted as a racist slumlord who could not care less about minorities in his apartments. The wages NIKE pays these workers ensures that their children get no education, who in turn end up replacing their parents in these factories & giving NIKE an endless supply of work force. That is systemic exploitation which our society is based on.

Lebron James, KD, and all the all stars directly gain from the systemic exploitation of these ppl. Are they going to provide a moral reasoning for doing so?
#RichBlackPeopleProblems. Thats what it is.
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Post#1588 » by HerboftheSerb » Fri May 2, 2014 2:15 pm

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Re: WT Sterling battling cancer 

Post#1589 » by Roland Brice » Fri May 2, 2014 2:16 pm

I don't even wish Cancer on this racist piece of crap. But karma is a you know what...
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Post#1590 » by HerboftheSerb » Fri May 2, 2014 2:18 pm

I don't wish anyone to deal with this alone ....
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Re: WT: Sterling battling cancer 

Post#1591 » by Steelo Green » Fri May 2, 2014 2:20 pm

We shouldn't stoop to that level. His views are his and will be receiving the punishment for it. As people none of us wish that kind of illness upon anyone.
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Re: WT: Sterling battling cancer 

Post#1592 » by RaptorJ » Fri May 2, 2014 2:20 pm

I hope he recovers from it, but if he doesn't have a lot of time left, you can only hope he humbles himself and treats his fellow man with some more dignity.
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Post#1593 » by Rhythm043 » Fri May 2, 2014 2:21 pm

How racist can he really be? I mean he is dating a black woman????

The history on the guy shows he does have some type of problem with others but he can't be a full blown Charles
Manson? Even Floyd Mayweather Jr defended him.

I don't know, it seemed like a weird telephone call and wasn't she setting him up? He kept saying he had people calling him telling him about her and her pictures , so it sounded to me like his friends in very high places had the real problem.
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Post#1594 » by J-Roc » Fri May 2, 2014 2:24 pm

I hate those super soft focus interviews Barbara Walters does. But it would work with Sterling's face, too.
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Re: WT: Sterling battling cancer 

Post#1595 » by basketball royalty » Fri May 2, 2014 2:25 pm

Well all this bad karma at once, can only hope he will do some soul searching and at least see the errors of his ways before he passes. He will likely never be forgiven by the public but hopefully for him he can find redemption within himself.

If he were to have a sudden turnaround and say donate all his money and get healthy and be a philanthropist it would make for a good modern day Christmas Carol Ebeneezer Scrooge movie.
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Post#1597 » by barrist » Fri May 2, 2014 2:31 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:How racist can he really be? I mean he is dating a black woman????

The history on the guy shows he does have some type of problem with others but he can't be a full blown Charles
Manson? Even Floyd Mayweather Jr defended him.

I don't know, it seemed like a weird telephone call and wasn't she setting him up? He kept saying he had people calling him telling him about her and her pictures , so it sounded to me like his friends in very high places had the real problem.


It's not the "kill all blacks" type of racism. It's the mindset where he truly believes that some races are innately different. I forget which article it was, but it documented how Sterling didn't want any WHITE players on the team because he felt Blacks were the more athletic, long and strong basketball player. It's what some called a Plantation Mentality.
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Re: Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40) 

Post#1598 » by G R E Y » Fri May 2, 2014 2:34 pm

I doubt Sterling can sue the NBA, though I don't doubt he would want to or would try. The owners sign to an agreement that they cannot sue the league. Don't see how this can be possible...
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Re: WT: Sterling battling cancer 

Post#1599 » by Rhythm043 » Fri May 2, 2014 2:44 pm

barrist wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:How racist can he really be? I mean he is dating a black woman????

The history on the guy shows he does have some type of problem with others but he can't be a full blown Charles
Manson? Even Floyd Mayweather Jr defended him.

I don't know, it seemed like a weird telephone call and wasn't she setting him up? He kept saying he had people calling him telling him about her and her pictures , so it sounded to me like his friends in very high places had the real problem.


It's not the "kill all blacks" type of racism. It's the mindset where he truly believes that some races are innately different. I forget which article it was, but it documented how Sterling didn't want any WHITE players on the team because he felt Blacks were the more athletic, long and strong basketball player. It's what some called a Plantation Mentality.


He did say some racist things for sure and spoke like he was the one providing the players with all their possessions.

Again, I just don't think its right how he was basically set up by her or someone else.
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Post#1600 » by kingcns187 » Fri May 2, 2014 2:59 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:How racist can he really be? I mean he is dating a black woman????

The history on the guy shows he does have some type of problem with others but he can't be a full blown Charles
Manson? Even Floyd Mayweather Jr defended him.

I don't know, it seemed like a weird telephone call and wasn't she setting him up? He kept saying he had people calling him telling him about her and her pictures , so it sounded to me like his friends in very high places had the real problem.




THIS!!


Is he racist? YES

Is everyone racist? YES

if he was full blown racist would he own a basketball team that was predominantly black. When he said don't bring any black people to my games he was talking to his gf bringing friends to the game that makes it look like she is sleeping around with other people. It makes his friends (other billonaires) think he is soft.

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