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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#81 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 12:50 pm

Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#82 » by omerome » Sat May 17, 2014 12:54 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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No it wouldn't. It would of been a horrible deal then, and if anything, more horrible now.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#83 » by bballoctober » Sat May 17, 2014 1:00 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#84 » by gavran » Sat May 17, 2014 1:02 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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Mmm, this is the Knicks board, not the Raptors one.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#85 » by Brooklyn_Yards » Sat May 17, 2014 1:06 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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No. That deal would've been a typical Knicks move, thank goodness it never happened.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#86 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 5:21 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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No. That deal would've been a typical Knicks move, thank goodness it never happened.

Lowry is the sole reason why the Raptors were the third seed. He should have been an all star over DeRozan. Typical Knicks fans don't under advanced stats in anyway LOL. Look at how good of a three point shooter he is and he has always been a pit bull on defense. He is literally 2x and more good than Felton, that would have at the very least elevated this club to a playoff seed. But according to Knick fans that even worse because we should start over and tank. If we made playoffs a lot of guys on this team would have a way higher value.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#87 » by DaGawd » Sat May 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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Give Toronto ANOTHER future first rounder after they already fleeced us for one in the Bargs deal? For a guy who could flat out leave us after this season ended… terrible deal..
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#88 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 5:25 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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No it wouldn't. It would of been a horrible deal then, and if anything, more horrible now.

More horrible because we would have been a playoff team with guys on the roster have significantly higher value. Then they would also be considered better assets by other GMs. Or more horrible because it would have showed Melo we can still win and we could have pulled a series win over a weak Nets or Bulls team in the playoffs. Or more horrible in the fact that Lowry plays like he's the best point guard in the East and a future all star? You don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#89 » by Thugger HBC » Sat May 17, 2014 5:26 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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No. That deal would've been a typical Knicks move, thank goodness it never happened.

Lowry is the sole reason why the Raptors were the third seed. He should have been an all star over DeRozan. Typical Knicks fans don't under advanced stats in anyway LOL. Look at how good of a three point shooter he is and he has always been a pit bull on defense. He is literally 2x and more good than Felton, that would have at the very least elevated this club to a playoff seed. But according to Knick fans that even worse because we should start over and tank. If we made playoffs a lot of guys on this team would have a way higher value.

Being two times better than Felton is Felton from a few years ago. :lol:

But seriously, not sure why everyone compares a player to Felton as if that elevates the player...it makes them look worse.

That deal is the best one to NEVER have happened.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#90 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 5:28 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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Give Toronto ANOTHER future first rounder after they already fleeced us for one in the Bargs deal? For a guy who could flat out leave us after this season ended… terrible deal..

He's an all star level player you have to take a chance. I love how bipolar this team is with security. At first everyone wants to play here because it's NY then suddenly we can't retain FAs. Felton is a crappy player that needs an asset to be attached just to remove him now. Shumpert sucks, THJR is a mid first round pick, and the 2018 first could have protection. The Raptors didn't fleece anyone that 2016 pick will be the worst between the Nugs and Knicks meaning it will most likely not be in the lottery. In four years Lowry will be 32 that's still prime for a point guard with his playing style and he isn't injury prone.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#91 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 5:30 pm

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Brooklyn_Yards wrote:No. That deal would've been a typical Knicks move, thank goodness it never happened.

Lowry is the sole reason why the Raptors were the third seed. He should have been an all star over DeRozan. Typical Knicks fans don't under advanced stats in anyway LOL. Look at how good of a three point shooter he is and he has always been a pit bull on defense. He is literally 2x and more good than Felton, that would have at the very least elevated this club to a playoff seed. But according to Knick fans that even worse because we should start over and tank. If we made playoffs a lot of guys on this team would have a way higher value.

Being two times better than Felton is Felton from a few years ago. :lol:

But seriously, not sure why everyone compares a player to Felton as if that elevates the player...it makes them look worse.

That deal is the best one to NEVER have happened.

Typical American fan that's never watched a Raptors game. Have you seen KL play? He runs circles around bad contract Felton. I love how the morons here compared Felton to Lowry when the rumors first came up. That's how deluded this fanbase is. Now they expect us to have the assets to lure in Rondo...LOL

EDIT: How can you make the best point guard in the East look bad?
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#92 » by Thugger HBC » Sat May 17, 2014 5:34 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Lowry is the sole reason why the Raptors were the third seed. He should have been an all star over DeRozan. Typical Knicks fans don't under advanced stats in anyway LOL. Look at how good of a three point shooter he is and he has always been a pit bull on defense. He is literally 2x and more good than Felton, that would have at the very least elevated this club to a playoff seed. But according to Knick fans that even worse because we should start over and tank. If we made playoffs a lot of guys on this team would have a way higher value.

Being two times better than Felton is Felton from a few years ago. :lol:

But seriously, not sure why everyone compares a player to Felton as if that elevates the player...it makes them look worse.

That deal is the best one to NEVER have happened.

Typical American fan that's never watched a Raptors game. Have you seen KL play? He runs circles around bad contract Felton. I love how the morons here compared Felton to Lowry when the rumors first came up. That's how deluded this fanbase is. Now they expect us to have the assets to lure in Rondo...LOL

EDIT: How can you make the best point guard in the East look bad?


Aren't you calling yourself a moron now? Thats exactly what your doing. :lol:
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#93 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 6:04 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Being two times better than Felton is Felton from a few years ago. :lol:

But seriously, not sure why everyone compares a player to Felton as if that elevates the player...it makes them look worse.

That deal is the best one to NEVER have happened.

Typical American fan that's never watched a Raptors game. Have you seen KL play? He runs circles around bad contract Felton. I love how the morons here compared Felton to Lowry when the rumors first came up. That's how deluded this fanbase is. Now they expect us to have the assets to lure in Rondo...LOL

EDIT: How can you make the best point guard in the East look bad?


Aren't you calling yourself a moron now? Thats exactly what your doing. :lol:

You really have to dumb it down to your level in order to get you to understand it. You are is also different from your. Ironic. The fans here made them comparable that's why I'm revisiting it. I don't think they're on equal levels. KL is a top 10 PG RF isn't even top 50.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#94 » by Thugger HBC » Sat May 17, 2014 6:12 pm

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Kenyon009 wrote:Typical American fan that's never watched a Raptors game. Have you seen KL play? He runs circles around bad contract Felton. I love how the morons here compared Felton to Lowry when the rumors first came up. That's how deluded this fanbase is. Now they expect us to have the assets to lure in Rondo...LOL

EDIT: How can you make the best point guard in the East look bad?


Aren't you calling yourself a moron now? Thats exactly what your doing. :lol:

You really have to dumb it down to your level in order to get you to understand it. You are is also different from your. Ironic. The fans here made them comparable that's why I'm revisiting it. I don't think they're on equal levels. KL is a top 10 PG RF isn't even top 50.

So....morons as you say made YOU revisit something nobody cares about now? :lol:

Nobody cares about Lowry.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#95 » by Kenyon009 » Sat May 17, 2014 6:14 pm

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Aren't you calling yourself a moron now? Thats exactly what your doing. :lol:

You really have to dumb it down to your level in order to get you to understand it. You are is also different from your. Ironic. The fans here made them comparable that's why I'm revisiting it. I don't think they're on equal levels. KL is a top 10 PG RF isn't even top 50.

So....morons as you say made YOU revisit something nobody cares about now? :lol:

Nobody cares about Lowry.

Apparently they care about going after Rondo. A player coming off an ACL surgery and being paid much more than Lowry. You really have to dumb it down for the audience.
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Post#96 » by Thugger HBC » Sat May 17, 2014 6:14 pm

BTW, you've got some nerve trying to correct grammar. :lol:

"He is literally 2x and more good than Felton".

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Post#97 » by Thugger HBC » Sat May 17, 2014 6:16 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:
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Kenyon009 wrote:You really have to dumb it down to your level in order to get you to understand it. You are is also different from your. Ironic. The fans here made them comparable that's why I'm revisiting it. I don't think they're on equal levels. KL is a top 10 PG RF isn't even top 50.

So....morons as you say made YOU revisit something nobody cares about now? :lol:

Nobody cares about Lowry.

Apparently they care about going after Rondo. A player coming off an ACL surgery and being paid much more than Lowry. You really have to dumb it down for the audience.

Rondo is better than Lowry, so thats understandable.

"Dumb" is comparing a player you think is an allstar to the worst starting pg in the NBA.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#98 » by NoLayupRule » Sat May 17, 2014 6:20 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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yes, that would be an amazing deal for Toronto


terrible for us

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Post#99 » by omerome » Sat May 17, 2014 6:21 pm

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No it wouldn't. It would of been a horrible deal then, and if anything, more horrible now.

More horrible because we would have been a playoff team with guys on the roster have significantly higher value. Then they would also be considered better assets by other GMs. Or more horrible because it would have showed Melo we can still win and we could have pulled a series win over a weak Nets or Bulls team in the playoffs. Or more horrible in the fact that Lowry plays like he's the best point guard in the East and a future all star? You don't know what you're talking about.

GMs already know the value of our players. For example, Chandler won't magically become a 25 year old prospect with the chance to improve. He's still a 30+ year center with a limited offensive game and is only going to slow down.

If we made that move, so what if we become a playoff team? We weren't beating Miami or Indiana. So we lose in the first or second round. Great. Now what? We have no prospects or draft picks to look forward to, and the only choice we have now is to re-sign Lowry or we'd lose him for nothing, too. That's a horrible way to try to build a team. The Raptors would have a ton of assets moving forward and retool while we're stuck for years to come.

I think I know what I"m talking about. You don't go all in (trading all of your assets) unless you're sure you have a chance at winning a title; not just to potentially win a playoff series or two. That will put you in the worst place a team can be in the NBA - mediocrity.
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Re: Did the Knicks rejected a Rondo and a Aldridge trade ? 

Post#100 » by GONYK » Sat May 17, 2014 6:23 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:Looking back Felton+Shumpert +THJR+2018 1st would still be a good deal for Lowry.

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This is just wrong. You don't trade those assets for an expiring.

And Lowry was not the type of PG we needed. The deal, as you presented it, would have been one of the worst trades of the Isiah era.

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