Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[Ill-yasova]

Parker has the added allure of being able to tap into the Chicago market.

I mentioned this a couple days ago also. I'm not sure how much Parker cares about being close to home, but if it matters to him at all it's a pretty big deal. Thinking long term, the Bucks probably aren't winning anything of note during any of these incoming rookie's first contracts. If you can get any of them to stick around for that second contract it makes a huge difference.

That's down the list a bit as far as why I prefer Parker, but it is worth considering.

I really don't think Parker being from Chicago taps into that market much. DRose is their golden boy.

This just in:

The Chicago Bulls will be taking JP Tokoto in next years NBA draft in a move that is sure to draw in the Milwaukee market.

[Buckrageous]

This looks terrifying after what we have gone through with Packer players getting vertebrate fused. Would not pick Joel without a clear picture of his medical...

Reports from Kansas during the Final Four pegged Embiid’s injury as a stress fracture which is called Spondylolysis, which is a small crack in the pars interarticularis portion of the lumbar spine. This injury usually heals normally with rest and rehab. The unknown in this equation is if the condition is really Spondylolisthesis, which is a recurring stress reaction, related to vertebra shifting forward and sitting on nerves. The surgical treatment for that is surgical fusion, which is a scary concept for NBA teams. It is believed this is the second time Embiid has had this injury, which is why there is so much debate and concern.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... z5yOPhV.99

I was really impressed by how Embiid was progressing throughout the year and have gone back and forth in my mind between Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid (havent seen enough of Exum to form an opinion). That said Im scared of his back and just reading the word fusion has raised my worry level. Id have to pass. If this was last year and the choices were Olidipo, Bennett, Porter, etc. I might roll the dice anyway. But I think Parker and Wiggins (sometimes Smart) are too good to chance Embiid's back.

[Zeezprah]

This looks terrifying after what we have gone through with Packer players getting vertebrate fused. Would not pick Joel without a clear picture of his medical...

Reports from Kansas during the Final Four pegged Embiid’s injury as a stress fracture which is called Spondylolysis, which is a small crack in the pars interarticularis portion of the lumbar spine. This injury usually heals normally with rest and rehab. The unknown in this equation is if the condition is really Spondylolisthesis, which is a recurring stress reaction, related to vertebra shifting forward and sitting on nerves. The surgical treatment for that is surgical fusion, which is a scary concept for NBA teams. It is believed this is the second time Embiid has had this injury, which is why there is so much debate and concern.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... z5yOPhV.99

wiggins, parker, or exum it is. not even messing with that crap. back injuries on bball players are death sentences,

[TroyD92]

I'll be honest. I fully expect whoever Cleveland picks to be a bust either due to injury or not living up to his potential. I have no reason for this other than it's Cleveland.

[bullox]

I mentioned this a couple days ago also. I'm not sure how much Parker cares about being close to home, but if it matters to him at all it's a pretty big deal. Thinking long term, the Bucks probably aren't winning anything of note during any of these incoming rookie's first contracts. If you can get any of them to stick around for that second contract it makes a huge difference.

That's down the list a bit as far as why I prefer Parker, but it is worth considering.

I really don't think Parker being from Chicago taps into that market much. DRose is their golden boy.

This just in:

The Chicago Bulls will be taking JP Tokoto in next years NBA draft in a move that is sure to draw in the Milwaukee market.

/woelful

[PedroGrande]

This looks terrifying after what we have gone through with Packer players getting vertebrate fused. Would not pick Joel without a clear picture of his medical...

Reports from Kansas during the Final Four pegged Embiid’s injury as a stress fracture which is called Spondylolysis, which is a small crack in the pars interarticularis portion of the lumbar spine. This injury usually heals normally with rest and rehab. The unknown in this equation is if the condition is really Spondylolisthesis, which is a recurring stress reaction, related to vertebra shifting forward and sitting on nerves. The surgical treatment for that is surgical fusion, which is a scary concept for NBA teams. It is believed this is the second time Embiid has had this injury, which is why there is so much debate and concern.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... z5yOPhV.99

Somebody put up the jezz sign since i dont have a clue wtf is that but looks scary

[Swan Vox]

Yeah, I am really intrigued by Embiid's potential and think he is the highest reward /ceiling player in this draft, but damn I do not like seeing even the possibility of spinal fusion thrown around.

I am hoping like hell that Cleveland takes him and we are left with Wiggins / Parker / Exum; whoever is your favorite. (Right now I am leaning Wiggins)

[driese0824]

Yeah, I am really intrigued by Embiid's potential and think he is the highest reward /ceiling player in this draft, but damn I do not like seeing even the possibility of spinal fusion thrown around.

I am hoping like hell that Cleveland takes him and we are left with Wiggins / Parker / Exum; whoever is your favorite. (Right now I am leaning Wiggins)

F this info turns out to b true u can bet the Cavs draft Wiggins or make that trade with Philly,which is cool either way cause I want parker

[mcfromage]

There seems to be an emerging divide: some people are vehemently anti-Embiid or anti-Parker, some people will be happy with any one of these 4 guys (I include myself in that group). What's a good way to poll the popular consenus?

Maybe something like:

Which of these is your preferred outcome:
- One of Embiid/Wiggins
- One of Parker/Wiggins
- One of Exum/Wiggins
- One of Embiid/Parker
- One of Exum/Parker

I'm really not sure. Or is this idea not at all different then our "Choose One" pre-lotto thread where Wiggins/Embiid topped out?

[blazza18]

From Simmons new Grantland piece -

Q: Are you disappointed that Milwaukee didn’t win the lottery, followed by Arn Tellem refusing to show them Joel Embiid’s medical records and bullying them into taking someone else?

A: I was really looking forward to that! I love when Arn Tellem goes Frank Underwood on us. No way Milwaukee could have taken Embiid without knowing if the stress fracture in his back totally healed. I’d totally back Tellem’s candidacy in the 2016 presidential election. Anyone who could pull off this Embiid/medical records thing just 10 months after getting New Orleans to spend $44 million on Tyreke Evans probably just needs to run our country. By the way, Embiid’s back is fine. I watched him work out last week.

Q: Wait … what? You watched Joel Embiid work out last week?

A: Yes — at a secret location in Santa Monica. He wasn’t playing against anyone, just going through a two-hour workout with Will Perdue. Here’s what I can tell you: He moves around as effortlessly as a 7-foot Serge Ibaka; he’s such an athletic freak that he’s one of those “still going up as he’s finishing the dunk” guys; his freakish wingspan might make Jay Bilas pass out; he has been playing basketball for only four years (which seems impossible); he gave up a world-class volleyball career; he has 3-point range; he can shoot jump-hooks with both hands already; he couldn’t have seemed more coachable/agreeable/likable; he’s a hard worker with a goofy sense of humor; his voice is just a touch Mutombo-y (deep with a heavy African accent); and his friends call him “Jo-Jo.” And again — his back seemed totally fine.

News flash: As I said on TV before the lottery, Embiid was always going first. None of these teams was passing on him. Repeat: none of them. The amount of smokescreening going on in April and May was high comedy. We keep hearing his back is really screwed up, this could be another Oden situation … Just stop it. This was like sitting at a fantasy football auction next to someone who kept claiming that he wasn’t going to pay big money for a QB … and then, two hours later, he’s bidding $49 for Aaron Rodgers. The truth is, Wiggins and Parker never separated themselves enough this season to warrant anyone saying, “We’re passing on a potential franchise center with a good chance of becoming the 7-foot Serge Ibaka.”

http://grantland.com/features/the-nba-s ... f-mailbag/

Guess it'll all come down to what the doc thinks.

[Zeezprah]

^^give someone oxycodone and any ailment will feel fine

obviously i'm being a little sarcastic, but that doesn't mean jack to me

[wichmae]

^^give someone oxycodone and any ailment will feel fine

obviously i'm being a little sarcastic, but that doesn't mean jack to me

Yi played against a chair and dominated!

[VooDoo7]

^^give someone oxycodone and any ailment will feel fine

obviously i'm being a little sarcastic, but that doesn't mean jack to me

Yup. I don't know if Simmons expects Embiid to be hobbling around, holding his back, or what.

Of Course he's gonna have times where he's healthy enough to play (in this case, not even playing a full-contact game). That doesn't mean that back isn't gonna cause issues down the road.

Do not want. Way too scared.

[Ayt]

This looks terrifying after what we have gone through with Packer players getting vertebrate fused. Would not pick Joel without a clear picture of his medical...

Reports from Kansas during the Final Four pegged Embiid’s injury as a stress fracture which is called Spondylolysis, which is a small crack in the pars interarticularis portion of the lumbar spine. This injury usually heals normally with rest and rehab. The unknown in this equation is if the condition is really Spondylolisthesis, which is a recurring stress reaction, related to vertebra shifting forward and sitting on nerves. The surgical treatment for that is surgical fusion, which is a scary concept for NBA teams. It is believed this is the second time Embiid has had this injury, which is why there is so much debate and concern.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... z5yOPhV.99

Somebody put up the jezz sign since i dont have a clue wtf is that but looks scary

What it is is mindless speculation.

[EastSideBucksFan]

This looks terrifying after what we have gone through with Packer players getting vertebrate fused. Would not pick Joel without a clear picture of his medical...

Reports from Kansas during the Final Four pegged Embiid’s injury as a stress fracture which is called Spondylolysis, which is a small crack in the pars interarticularis portion of the lumbar spine. This injury usually heals normally with rest and rehab. The unknown in this equation is if the condition is really Spondylolisthesis, which is a recurring stress reaction, related to vertebra shifting forward and sitting on nerves. The surgical treatment for that is surgical fusion, which is a scary concept for NBA teams. It is believed this is the second time Embiid has had this injury, which is why there is so much debate and concern.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... z5yOPhV.99

If this is true, then I no longer am even going to think about Embiid for a second and I'm assuming/hoping the Bucks feel the same.

[Ayt]

Wiggins vs. Smart video breakdown from DX. Wiggins made one FG while being guarded by Smart in 3 games.

http://www.draftexpress.com/video/11458/

[JayMKE]

Simmons is a hack.

Spondylolisthesis sounds ****** up.

[El Duderino]

There seems to be an emerging divide: some people are vehemently anti-Embiid or anti-Parker, some people will be happy with any one of these 4 guys (I include myself in that group). What's a good way to poll the popular consenus?

Maybe something like:

Which of these is your preferred outcome:
- One of Embiid/Wiggins

Besides the fact that i'd love a healthy Embiid on the Bucks, another reason i want his health to check out is that then it opens the door to my best case scenario of either Embiid or Wiggins being there at the 2nd pick.

My worst case scenario is that Arn Tellem doesn't let any teams or just the Bucks not have access to Embiid's medical records and the Cavs take Wiggins. Then Bucks management between Hammond/the new owners are to scared to take Embiid for health reasons, and we end up taking Parker.

Granted, before last season started, if you'd have told me that the Bucks could have Parker in the draft, i'd have been ecstatic. Not anymore though that we own the second pick.

[JayMKE]

Embiid's back is starting to scare me. I think I might have to bump him down under Wiggins and Parker.

[Baller2014]

The Embiid stuff does feel like a smokescreen to be honest. I guess we'll see, but I wouldn't trust your GM to pick anyone other than Embiid or Wiggins anyway, so it's a good thing you've got a top 2 pick. Even Jabari can't end badly really.