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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#381 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed May 28, 2014 5:06 pm

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Darius Miles wishes he had the skills and IQ that Exum already has.


Darius Miles wishes he could have played against Australian HS basketball too. I just don't want to suck next year again and drafting Exum means this team sucks for another year because Exum is so far from NBA ready to contribute. He will be tested to push Moore for backup minutes as a Combo guard at that. Heck, Ronnie Price will be a better backup PG than Exum during his rookie season.


So what if he have to wait? We will probably make a run at the playoffs with or without a major contribution from our draft pick. How do you know he wont contribute? He already has a better handle than anyone on our roster. He is stronger already than MCW.

I just think the fact that he played in Australia is not a big deal. His father was a college and NBA player. We have seen several players from his school make in to the NBA. He has size, talent, athletic ability, is very skilled, good head on his shoulders, he is smart. He is gonna be a successful NBA player for years.



HAHAHAHAHAA!! Exum has no better handle than anyone on the Magic roster???? Hahaha!!

EXUM hasn't even competed against Pro Players or even College level yet and he has a better handle than Magic players????

There is a MASSIVE difference between NBA Speed and Australian HS speed when it comes to HANDLES. Just wait and see. BadMofoPimp will prove you all wrong this rookie season.

HAHAHHAHA! You can't be freaking serious. Size and Athletic ability does not equal NBA superstar until they play the freaking game. Exum will not start or contribute. Exum could be a great player someday, but that is years down the road ONLY after years of development.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#382 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 5:08 pm

Big Boss wrote:Another thing i totally forgot about is Exum's post game, he does have some good footwork down there and with his size he could very well take advantage. The problem i see with that is our Coach rarely ran plays like that to Dipo when he had a size advantage. Wonder if that changes if we get Exum?


The problem I see is that our coach has no idea what to do most of the time.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#383 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed May 28, 2014 5:17 pm

People are so desperate for the Next Big Superstar they don't seem realistically envision what it takes to obtain one.

It is like people are already saying Dante is a Superstar ready to start his rookie season without realizing that he is a kid who is super raw who played at Australian HS speeds and can hardly shoot the ball. He is a project plain and simple. Any GM who drafts him plans on Exum riding the bench and learning the game of basketball for 2-3 years before he can start.

Anyone who thinks Exum will start his rookie season has alot to learn about pro basketball. I have been watching Drafts since I was a kid in 1985 with my step father who played College ball and was a HS basketball coach. He knows every player in every draft. Exum would have to do the impossible to compete at the level Fans on this board envision him straight out of High School. Kid is only a project that may or may not live up to peoples expectations.

I do not want Exum because I want to win now, not suck for another year. I want NBA ready Smart, Big 3 or Randle.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#384 » by Devin 1L » Wed May 28, 2014 5:17 pm

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Nyce_1 wrote:Thank you Smooth. Much appreciated.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#385 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 5:19 pm

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Nyce_1 wrote:Thank you Smooth. Much appreciated.


No problem, buddy. If there are any other ESPN insider articles you would like to read just let me know (preferably on a mention so I can see the notification alert).


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#386 » by Devin 1L » Wed May 28, 2014 5:20 pm

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No problem, buddy. If there are any other ESPN insider articles you would like to read just let me know (preferably on a mention so I can see the notification alert).


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Sorry about that.

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#387 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed May 28, 2014 5:36 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:People are so desperate for the Next Big Superstar they don't seem realistically envision what it takes to obtain one.

It is like people are already saying Dante is a Superstar ready to start his rookie season without realizing that he is a kid who is super raw who played at Australian HS speeds and can hardly shoot the ball. He is a project plain and simple. Any GM who drafts him plans on Exum riding the bench and learning the game of basketball for 2-3 years before he can start.

Anyone who thinks Exum will start his rookie season has alot to learn about pro basketball. I have been watching Drafts since I was a kid in 1985 with my step father who played College ball and was a HS basketball coach. He knows every player in every draft. Exum would have to do the impossible to compete at the level Fans on this board envision him straight out of High School. Kid is only a project that may or may not live up to peoples expectations.

I do not want Exum because I want to win now, not suck for another year. I want NBA ready Smart, Big 3 or Randle.


First of all, has anyone here said that he will be a superstar? I haven't and I dont remember seeing anyone claiming that he will be.

Second, I havent said that I expect him to start right away nor have seen people claiming he would be. If Dipo couldn't start then certainly Exum wont.

Smart is the most ready player out of the top 6/7 players. But aren't you concerned that Smart plays a very similar game to Dipo? Duplicating abilities and possibly getting on each other's way?

You act like Exum is a raw HS athlete that hardly played with limited skills. He is not a dumb, raw high school athlete like Darius Miles. Exum is a very skilled player that is athletc but you dont want to recognize it.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#388 » by RYgoBOOM » Wed May 28, 2014 5:41 pm

BMP I think you're really downplaying Exums talent here.

MCW who looks like a great comparison, started his rookie year and IMO Exum looks far more skilled. A lot of rookies start and play heavy minutes. Especially on a team as bad as ours, sixers, and the Jazz with Burke. They won't draft someone with the 4th pick that they plan on giving more minutes to in years 2-3. He is already extremely quick, has a sick handle, and looks right at home in transition.

I think he ends up being top 5 in the draft after 2 years
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#389 » by Tayswagzzz » Wed May 28, 2014 5:44 pm

RYgoBOOM wrote:BMP I think you're really downplaying Exums talent here.

MCW who looks like a great comparison, started his rookie year and IMO Exum looks far more skilled. A lot of rookies start and play heavy minutes. Especially on a team as bad as ours, sixers, and the Jazz with Burke. They won't draft someone with the 4th pick that they plan on giving more minutes to in years 2-3. He is already extremely quick, has a sick handle, and looks right at home in transition.

I think he ends up being top 5 in the draft after 2 years


I think that's a very fair comparison.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#390 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed May 28, 2014 5:44 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:People are so desperate for the Next Big Superstar they don't seem realistically envision what it takes to obtain one.

It is like people are already saying Dante is a Superstar ready to start his rookie season without realizing that he is a kid who is super raw who played at Australian HS speeds and can hardly shoot the ball. He is a project plain and simple. Any GM who drafts him plans on Exum riding the bench and learning the game of basketball for 2-3 years before he can start.

Anyone who thinks Exum will start his rookie season has alot to learn about pro basketball. I have been watching Drafts since I was a kid in 1985 with my step father who played College ball and was a HS basketball coach. He knows every player in every draft. Exum would have to do the impossible to compete at the level Fans on this board envision him straight out of High School. Kid is only a project that may or may not live up to peoples expectations.

I do not want Exum because I want to win now, not suck for another year. I want NBA ready Smart, Big 3 or Randle.


First of all, has anyone here said that he will be a superstar? I haven't and I dont remember seeing anyone claiming that he will be.

Second, I havent said that I expect him to start right away nor have seen people claiming he would be. If Dipo couldn't start then certainly Exum wont.

Smart is the most ready player out of the top 6/7 players. But aren't you concerned that Smart plays a very similar game to Dipo? Duplicating abilities and possibly getting on each other's way?

You act like Exum is a raw HS athlete that hardly played with limited skills. He is not a dumb, raw high school athlete like Darius Miles. Exum is a very skilled player that is athletc but you dont want to recognize it.


Solid retort!

First, I seen too many posts stating a starting lineup with Exum starting. And, I was just arguing in this thread with people who think Exum could actually start.

As far as Smart, then most of the teams in the league shouldn't draft Smart because of the same exact rationale. Every wing player can be said to be similar to other players on their team. That is not a valid thought. Exum plays too much like Oladipo also. Thus, we should draft either one of them. It is a redundant and illogical reason to not draft someone.

Maybe, Phoenix shouldn't play 2 PG's either. Thus, there is not a single reason not to draft Smart or Exum if that is the GM's prerogative.

Exum has never encountered this level of competitiion and speeds. Just because he is athletically gifted and never faced intelligent College or Pro level competition doesn't mean he has a super high IQ. Those Australian HS kids looked like they played at the Middle School level. I could look like an All-Star against those kids, hahaha.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#391 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 5:56 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:People are so desperate for the Next Big Superstar they don't seem realistically envision what it takes to obtain one.

It is like people are already saying Dante is a Superstar ready to start his rookie season without realizing that he is a kid who is super raw who played at Australian HS speeds and can hardly shoot the ball. He is a project plain and simple. Any GM who drafts him plans on Exum riding the bench and learning the game of basketball for 2-3 years before he can start.

Anyone who thinks Exum will start his rookie season has alot to learn about pro basketball. I have been watching Drafts since I was a kid in 1985 with my step father who played College ball and was a HS basketball coach. He knows every player in every draft. Exum would have to do the impossible to compete at the level Fans on this board envision him straight out of High School. Kid is only a project that may or may not live up to peoples expectations.

I do not want Exum because I want to win now, not suck for another year. I want NBA ready Smart, Big 3 or Randle.


First of all, has anyone here said that he will be a superstar? I haven't and I dont remember seeing anyone claiming that he will be.

Second, I havent said that I expect him to start right away nor have seen people claiming he would be. If Dipo couldn't start then certainly Exum wont.

Smart is the most ready player out of the top 6/7 players. But aren't you concerned that Smart plays a very similar game to Dipo? Duplicating abilities and possibly getting on each other's way?

You act like Exum is a raw HS athlete that hardly played with limited skills. He is not a dumb, raw high school athlete like Darius Miles. Exum is a very skilled player that is athletc but you dont want to recognize it.

Exum has never encountered this level of competitiion and speeds. Just because he is athletically gifted and never faced intelligent College or Pro level competition doesn't mean he has a super high IQ. Those Australian HS kids looked like they played at the Middle School level. I could look like an All-Star against those kids, hahaha.


You mean like this Australian-born NBA all-star (only played in a handful of Duke games) that was drafted coming off an injury?

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#392 » by Devin 1L » Wed May 28, 2014 6:04 pm

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First of all, has anyone here said that he will be a superstar? I haven't and I dont remember seeing anyone claiming that he will be.

Second, I havent said that I expect him to start right away nor have seen people claiming he would be. If Dipo couldn't start then certainly Exum wont.

Smart is the most ready player out of the top 6/7 players. But aren't you concerned that Smart plays a very similar game to Dipo? Duplicating abilities and possibly getting on each other's way?

You act like Exum is a raw HS athlete that hardly played with limited skills. He is not a dumb, raw high school athlete like Darius Miles. Exum is a very skilled player that is athletc but you dont want to recognize it.

Exum has never encountered this level of competitiion and speeds. Just because he is athletically gifted and never faced intelligent College or Pro level competition doesn't mean he has a super high IQ. Those Australian HS kids looked like they played at the Middle School level. I could look like an All-Star against those kids, hahaha.


You mean like this Australian-born NBA all-star (only played in a handful of Duke games) that was drafted coming off an injury?

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Also, he looked great in his 11 game sample of Duke games.
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Post#393 » by HeartAndHustle » Wed May 28, 2014 6:04 pm

It's funny how people always bring up that Exum only looks immpressive because he played against High School kids, and since he didn't play college ball like the rest of these guys, he will flop once he gets to the big bad NBA. Does anyone remember how good Dwight, KG, Kobe, Lebron, T-Mac looked in college??

Me either.
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Post#394 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 6:06 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:It's funny how people always bring up that Exum only looks immpressive because he played against High School kids, and since he didn't play college ball like the rest of these guys, he will flop once he gets to the big bad NBA. Does anyone remember how good Dwight, KG, Kobe, Lebron, T-Mac looked in college??

Me either.


I also remember those guys struggling the first few years but eventually becoming superstars.
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Post#395 » by KillMonger » Wed May 28, 2014 6:08 pm

level of competition argument holds no water man, why do you keep bringing it up? retire it already
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#396 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 6:08 pm

Devin 1L wrote:
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BadMofoPimp wrote:Exum has never encountered this level of competitiion and speeds. Just because he is athletically gifted and never faced intelligent College or Pro level competition doesn't mean he has a super high IQ. Those Australian HS kids looked like they played at the Middle School level. I could look like an All-Star against those kids, hahaha.


You mean like this Australian-born NBA all-star (only played in a handful of Duke games) that was drafted coming off an injury?

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Also, he looked great in his 11 game sample of Duke games.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#397 » by Tayswagzzz » Wed May 28, 2014 6:09 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:It's funny how people always bring up that Exum only looks immpressive because he played against High School kids, and since he didn't play college ball like the rest of these guys, he will flop once he gets to the big bad NBA. Does anyone remember how good Dwight, KG, Kobe, Lebron, T-Mac looked in college??

Me either.


I literally just talked about this in another thread lmao. Great minds think alike :clap:
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Post#398 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 6:10 pm

Big Boss wrote:level of competition argument holds no water man, why do you keep bringing it up? retire it already


Seriously though. If his competition was so poor, and if he is lacking in skill or ability, why is he ranked so high by almost EVERY media outlet? Wouldn't he be projected as a second round pick?
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Post#399 » by tiderulz » Wed May 28, 2014 6:12 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:It's funny how people always bring up that Exum only looks immpressive because he played against High School kids, and since he didn't play college ball like the rest of these guys, he will flop once he gets to the big bad NBA. Does anyone remember how good Dwight, KG, Kobe, Lebron, T-Mac looked in college??

Me either.


i could be wrong, but do you honestly think HS ball in Australia is as good as in the US?
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#400 » by orthoman » Wed May 28, 2014 6:12 pm

MellowRose & BadMofoPimp,

I'm on the same ship as you guys are-I want Smart here. This thread has gotten so long I haven't read everybody's
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Does anyone know when Mr. Adidas, Dante, will "grant us" a workout? When will he fit us into his L.A. schedule
for a workout here? :wink:

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