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Post#1021 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue May 27, 2014 8:52 pm



That's why it's so troubling to have such a terrible & self absorbed team beat writer. The general public outside of knowledgeable Charlotte fans like some of us are going to take his word as gold standard since he's supposed to be the man with the inside track
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Post#1022 » by BobsBuddy » Tue May 27, 2014 9:22 pm

:lol: :lol: C'Mon Man....Melo in Charlotte.....? Next Y'all tell me it's going to snow next week. :crazy:
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Post#1023 » by catch20two » Tue May 27, 2014 11:24 pm

I don't know how we're gonna spend this extra cap space this offseason but I wouldn't mind outbidding Toronto for Greivis Vasquez. Not only could Vasquez be a good backup PG but he has enough size to play alongside Kemba a lot as we groom our rookie SG if needed. I really wish we can find a way to get Vasquez.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1024 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue May 27, 2014 11:35 pm

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That's why it's so troubling to have such a terrible & self absorbed team beat writer. The general public outside of knowledgeable Charlotte fans like some of us are going to take his word as gold standard since he's supposed to be the man with the inside track


Yeah I saw a link where we were supposedly interested in Kevin Love. We have the worst beat writer in the league, by far.
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Post#1025 » by Elden Payton » Wed May 28, 2014 1:12 am

I reckon every team should be interested in Kevin Love..

Bonnell is the epitome of terrible though imo.
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Post#1026 » by TheKingofSting2 » Thu May 29, 2014 2:04 am

Bonnell is such a troll.
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Post#1027 » by Diop » Thu May 29, 2014 2:17 am

I wish we could get Bosh here some how, I think he would fit perfectly next to Al.
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Post#1028 » by fatlever » Thu May 29, 2014 2:19 am

catch20two wrote:I don't know how we're gonna spend this extra cap space this offseason but I wouldn't mind outbidding Toronto for Greivis Vasquez. Not only could Vasquez be a good backup PG but he has enough size to play alongside Kemba a lot as we groom our rookie SG if needed. I really wish we can find a way to get Vasquez.


i really like vasquez for this team, if we dont land harris or stauskas in the draft. he would be in the game in the 4th with kemba providing an extra ball handler and shooter.
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Post#1029 » by ARHornet » Thu May 29, 2014 2:27 am

Sachmo wrote:I wish we could get Bosh here some how, I think he would fit perfectly next to Al.

Ever since we signed Al I've thought that Bosh would be the perfect compliment to him.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1030 » by TheKingofSting2 » Thu May 29, 2014 2:37 am

fatlever wrote:
catch20two wrote:I don't know how we're gonna spend this extra cap space this offseason but I wouldn't mind outbidding Toronto for Greivis Vasquez. Not only could Vasquez be a good backup PG but he has enough size to play alongside Kemba a lot as we groom our rookie SG if needed. I really wish we can find a way to get Vasquez.


i really like vasquez for this team, if we dont land harris or stauskas in the draft. he would be in the game in the 4th with kemba providing an extra ball handler and shooter.


I am high on Vásquez as well, I couldn't stand him at Maryland but he would fit perfect for the Hornets.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1031 » by catch20two » Thu May 29, 2014 2:41 am

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catch20two wrote:I don't know how we're gonna spend this extra cap space this offseason but I wouldn't mind outbidding Toronto for Greivis Vasquez. Not only could Vasquez be a good backup PG but he has enough size to play alongside Kemba a lot as we groom our rookie SG if needed. I really wish we can find a way to get Vasquez.


i really like vasquez for this team, if we dont land harris or stauskas in the draft. he would be in the game in the 4th with kemba providing an extra ball handler and shooter.

I like Vasquez for us no matter who we draft. We're gonna have to spend money and I would hate for it to be on a MKG replacement like Deng when our real weakness this year was backup PG. Our team experienced the most dropoff when Kemba went to the bench.
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Post#1032 » by BeesWax » Thu May 29, 2014 2:44 am

catch20two wrote:
fatlever wrote:
catch20two wrote:I don't know how we're gonna spend this extra cap space this offseason but I wouldn't mind outbidding Toronto for Greivis Vasquez. Not only could Vasquez be a good backup PG but he has enough size to play alongside Kemba a lot as we groom our rookie SG if needed. I really wish we can find a way to get Vasquez.


i really like vasquez for this team, if we dont land harris or stauskas in the draft. he would be in the game in the 4th with kemba providing an extra ball handler and shooter.

I like Vasquez for us no matter who we draft. We're gonna have to spend money and I would hate for it to be on a MKG replacement like Deng when our real weakness this year was backup PG. Our team experienced the most dropoff when Kemba went to the bench.

We were killed this season when we went to the bench. We need upgrades at backup SG and PG and PF. However they want to do that is fine. I just don't want our entire team to fall off the cliff when starters come out.
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Post#1033 » by Snidely FC » Thu May 29, 2014 2:56 am

I've got big concerns about Luol Deng. Word last summer was his agent was looking for 4 years $12 Million per!
A career 32% 3pt shooter, he shot only 30% from 3 this year, and a poor 42% from 2land (MKG shot 47%)
The guy is a class act, but I can't help but believe CHI gave him up because they saw some decline. Maybe if he'd take $7Mln/, but still, I'd rather have a SF who could stretch the floor a little, esp with MKG already on board.
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Post#1034 » by Cheeze » Thu May 29, 2014 3:18 am

I like Deng as a free agent acquisition, mostly from the fact that he has a solid all-around game from both ends of the floor. What Deng would represent in Cliff's offense is a credible threat. Of the other starters, McRoberts, bless him, is not a threat, and Hendo, bless him, is too afraid of his own shadow to be one. MKG? I won't even go there. Deng would represent the same type of threat on the wing that Big Al offers on the low post. Deng's a good passer, too, and an above average BBIQ.

And adding Deng would bring MKG off the bench where he should be coming from anyhow, thus strengthening the bench and allowing MKG to develop.

The market will bear with Deng. There's a diminishing market for older players who want more than they're market value. I seriously doubt any of the teams with cap space want any part of $12M per. $9M per? I could see that. $10M is stretching and $11M could be an overpay. $9M sounds about right on a two year deal with player option for a third, or $10M per on a 2 year deal with a team option on year three.

That should leave enough room to keep CDR, add a third veteran point guard not named Pargo or Sessions and the two rookies. If McRoberts opts out and Charlotte lets him walk, then there should be plenty left for a role player such as Channing Frye or Kris Humphries.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1035 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 29, 2014 3:37 am

Cheeze wrote:I like Deng as a free agent acquisition, mostly from the fact that he has a solid all-around game from both ends of the floor. What Deng would represent in Cliff's offense is a credible threat. Of the other starters, McRoberts, bless him, is not a threat, and Hendo, bless him, is too afraid of his own shadow to be one. MKG? I won't even go there. Deng would represent the same type of threat on the wing that Big Al offers on the low post. Deng's a good passer, too, and an above average BBIQ.

And adding Deng would bring MKG off the bench where he should be coming from anyhow, thus strengthening the bench and allowing MKG to develop.

The market will bear with Deng. There's a diminishing market for older players who want more than they're market value. I seriously doubt any of the teams with cap space want any part of $12M per. $9M per? I could see that. $10M is stretching and $11M could be an overpay. $9M sounds about right on a two year deal with player option for a third, or $10M per on a 2 year deal with a team option on year three.

That should leave enough room to keep CDR, add a third veteran point guard not named Pargo or Sessions and the two rookies. If McRoberts opts out and Charlotte lets him walk, then there should be plenty left for a role player such as Channing Frye or Kris Humphries.


You will soon realize that a lot of people on here don't want us discussing any free agents that may supplant MKG or take some of his minutes.
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Post#1036 » by MasterIchiro » Thu May 29, 2014 3:43 am

Cheeze wrote:I like Deng as a free agent acquisition, mostly from the fact that he has a solid all-around game from both ends of the floor. What Deng would represent in Cliff's offense is a credible threat. Of the other starters, McRoberts, bless him, is not a threat, and Hendo, bless him, is too afraid of his own shadow to be one. MKG? I won't even go there. Deng would represent the same type of threat on the wing that Big Al offers on the low post. Deng's a good passer, too, and an above average BBIQ.

And adding Deng would bring MKG off the bench where he should be coming from anyhow, thus strengthening the bench and allowing MKG to develop.

The market will bear with Deng. There's a diminishing market for older players who want more than they're market value. I seriously doubt any of the teams with cap space want any part of $12M per. $9M per? I could see that. $10M is stretching and $11M could be an overpay. $9M sounds about right on a two year deal with player option for a third, or $10M per on a 2 year deal with a team option on year three.

That should leave enough room to keep CDR, add a third veteran point guard not named Pargo or Sessions and the two rookies. If McRoberts opts out and Charlotte lets him walk, then there should be plenty left for a role player such as Channing Frye or Kris Humphries.


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Post#1037 » by catch20two » Thu May 29, 2014 3:50 am

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i really like vasquez for this team, if we dont land harris or stauskas in the draft. he would be in the game in the 4th with kemba providing an extra ball handler and shooter.

I like Vasquez for us no matter who we draft. We're gonna have to spend money and I would hate for it to be on a MKG replacement like Deng when our real weakness this year was backup PG. Our team experienced the most dropoff when Kemba went to the bench.

We were killed this season when we went to the bench. We need upgrades at backup SG and PG and PF. However they want to do that is fine. I just don't want our entire team to fall off the cliff when starters come out.

As long as we have a backup PG that's good enough to withstand playing with Zeller on the floor we'll be OK. We need to make sure we got a backup PG that can put up starter production like Vasquez or Mo Williams. I'm also fine with bringing in depth at other positions like PF but we'll see.
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Post#1038 » by catch20two » Thu May 29, 2014 3:55 am

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Cheeze wrote:I like Deng as a free agent acquisition, mostly from the fact that he has a solid all-around game from both ends of the floor. What Deng would represent in Cliff's offense is a credible threat. Of the other starters, McRoberts, bless him, is not a threat, and Hendo, bless him, is too afraid of his own shadow to be one. MKG? I won't even go there. Deng would represent the same type of threat on the wing that Big Al offers on the low post. Deng's a good passer, too, and an above average BBIQ.

And adding Deng would bring MKG off the bench where he should be coming from anyhow, thus strengthening the bench and allowing MKG to develop.

The market will bear with Deng. There's a diminishing market for older players who want more than they're market value. I seriously doubt any of the teams with cap space want any part of $12M per. $9M per? I could see that. $10M is stretching and $11M could be an overpay. $9M sounds about right on a two year deal with player option for a third, or $10M per on a 2 year deal with a team option on year three.

That should leave enough room to keep CDR, add a third veteran point guard not named Pargo or Sessions and the two rookies. If McRoberts opts out and Charlotte lets him walk, then there should be plenty left for a role player such as Channing Frye or Kris Humphries.


You will soon realize that a lot of people on here don't want us discussing any free agents that may supplant MKG or take some of his minutes.

There's no need to bring in a SF to tether with MKG's minutes because we were almost always a net positive with him on the floor. It's the other positions that need touching up. We had enough people taking minutes away from MKG for no reason but the mythical #spacing that weren't even SFs ruining our games. We don't need to waste our cap space on Deng. That'll do two things, be a waste of money because Deng ain't no impact player and the other thing would be hindering MKG's development.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1039 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 29, 2014 4:00 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Cheeze wrote:I like Deng as a free agent acquisition, mostly from the fact that he has a solid all-around game from both ends of the floor. What Deng would represent in Cliff's offense is a credible threat. Of the other starters, McRoberts, bless him, is not a threat, and Hendo, bless him, is too afraid of his own shadow to be one. MKG? I won't even go there. Deng would represent the same type of threat on the wing that Big Al offers on the low post. Deng's a good passer, too, and an above average BBIQ.

And adding Deng would bring MKG off the bench where he should be coming from anyhow, thus strengthening the bench and allowing MKG to develop.

The market will bear with Deng. There's a diminishing market for older players who want more than they're market value. I seriously doubt any of the teams with cap space want any part of $12M per. $9M per? I could see that. $10M is stretching and $11M could be an overpay. $9M sounds about right on a two year deal with player option for a third, or $10M per on a 2 year deal with a team option on year three.

That should leave enough room to keep CDR, add a third veteran point guard not named Pargo or Sessions and the two rookies. If McRoberts opts out and Charlotte lets him walk, then there should be plenty left for a role player such as Channing Frye or Kris Humphries.


You will soon realize that a lot of people on here don't want us discussing any free agents that may supplant MKG or take some of his minutes.

There's no need to bring in a SF to tether with MKG's minutes because we were almost always a net positive with him on the floor. It's the other positions that need touching up. We had enough people taking minutes away from MKG for no reason but the mythical #spacing that weren't even SFs ruining our games. We don't need to waste our cap space on Deng. That'll do two things, be a waste of money because Deng ain't no impact player and the other thing would be hindering MKG's development.


I don't really care for Deng, but if we draft a McDermott and sign a good SG in FA it will be interesting to see if McDermott comes off the bench or eventually starts. Will depend on if MKG progresses any.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1040 » by Eoghan » Thu May 29, 2014 4:20 am

I'd be okay with signing a FA that takes MKG's minutes IF that FA can play defense at a comparable level.

Because if this team takes any step back in defense then it takes 3 steps back out of the playoff race.

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