OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[catch20two]

Nice to hear that all of our young players were in the gym and couldn't wait to put in work from MKG, Zeller, Taylor, and even Kemba. That shows some real dedication to getting better.

[Liver_Pooty]

Nice to hear that all of our young players were in the gym and couldn't wait to put in work from MKG, Zeller, Taylor, and even Kemba. That shows some real dedication to getting better.

Was Kemba there?

[catch20two]

Nice to hear that all of our young players were in the gym and couldn't wait to put in work from MKG, Zeller, Taylor, and even Kemba. That shows some real dedication to getting better.

Was Kemba there?

That's what Bonnell said in that article about Glenn Robinson III he wrote.

[Bassman]

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Hitch much smoother, but notice how he is rotating his body during the shot. That is not good. Hyphen wants to do all kinds of funky stuff within his shooting that does nothing to help build a consistent shot. Zeller does some of the same things with his foundation. Typically Cody's off-balance slightly when shooting, which throws accuracy off. Problem is he seems to try and compensate for it and makes it worse the other way. MKG doesn't have to become Ray Allen....if he can build a confident and reliable mid-range and in jump shot he can be very dangerous. With that he's Crash 2, maybe a bit more. Without it he's a role player/glue guy.

[thesneakysneak]

was looking at vids from his college days. no hitch, completly different looking release. ridiculous.

[LamarMatic7]

MKG doesn't have to become Ray Allen....if he can build a confident and reliable mid-range and in jump shot he can be very dangerous. With that he's Crash 2, maybe a bit more. Without it he's a role player/glue guy.

All I want is a jumper in which he is confident enough that the rest of the league receives the memo that you can't flat out ignore him any more. Half of the battle is achieving the perception that Mike cannot be left that open.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JJJPkl9QBA[/youtube]

However, this time of the year always make me queasy about our own guys. During the playoffs you see many quality players being taken out of the series and buried on the bench just because it's detrimental to leave them on the court due to one single downside of their game. In such situations I always find myself thinking about our own guys who could find themselves in such a situation.

Take Thabo Sefolosha as an example. He made 100+ threes last year at a .419% clip. He's proven that he's a great guy to have on the opposing point guard. In a way, his role and spot in the starting lineup is exactly the same to MKG's. But all of the sudden he's unplayable just because the Spurs can live with leaving him for open jumpers. Now tell me that the same thing can't happen to MKG one day... Even though he might become a reliable mid-range shooter, that's still a long way from being someone who the opposition wouldn't want to beat them with that jumper.

[dmutombo321]

Great video/post Lamar. All the folks who are forever incredulous about MKG's general lack of minutes in the 4th quarter of games should take a long look at that and play it back twice. If you were so inclined, I'm sure you could find dozens of other instances just like it.

That ladies and gentlemen, once again illustrates why Clifford oftentimes relegates MKG to the bench, not because of some personal vendetta.

In trying to protect a lead or get back into a game in the 4th playing, at times when playing 4 on 5 on offense is deemed more detrimental than settling for average as opposed to above avg (MKG) defense on the other end from a single wing position, the result is MKG goes to the bench.

Hopefully Gilchrist develops at least a moderately acceptable J someday with Price's help. As Bass notes, it just needs to be serviceable. As it is now though, when he receives the ball outside the three point stripe, his defender often ignores him to float or cause havoc elsewhere knowing that as long as he leaves enough time to rotate back and cut off MKG's straight line drives, that Gilchrist might as well be a folding chair when he's standing over 20 feet from the rim.

[Liver_Pooty]

MKG doesn't have to become Ray Allen....if he can build a confident and reliable mid-range and in jump shot he can be very dangerous. With that he's Crash 2, maybe a bit more. Without it he's a role player/glue guy.

All I want is a jumper in which he is confident enough that the rest of the league receives the memo that you can't flat out ignore him any more. Half of the battle is achieving the perception that Mike cannot be left that open.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JJJPkl9QBA[/youtube]

However, this time of the year always make me queasy about our own guys. During the playoffs you see many quality players being taken out of the series and buried on the bench just because it's detrimental to leave them on the court due to one single downside of their game. In such situations I always find myself thinking about our own guys who could find themselves in such a situation.

Take Thabo Sefolosha as an example. He made 100+ threes last year at a .419% clip. He's proven that he's a great guy to have on the opposing point guard. In a way, his role and spot in the starting lineup is exactly the same to MKG's. But all of the sudden he's unplayable just because the Spurs can live with leaving him for open jumpers. Now tell me that the same thing can't happen to MKG one day... Even though he might become a reliable mid-range shooter, that's still a long way from being someone who the opposition wouldn't want to beat them with that jumper.

And this is why I had no problem with him not playing in the 4th quarter of most games.

[ARHornet]

MKG needs to be more aggressive. For example, in the video above, at 7 seconds when he catches the ball he should be driving to attack the basket. We've got a 4 on 3 advantage. But instead he just kicks it back out to Kemba because he doesn't have to confidence to attack. Wings and guards can be effective offensive players without the ability to shoot, if they can attack the basket. MKG has the ability to do this, he just has to be more willing. If he can be more aggressive in looking for his shot offensively, improve his ability to finish in the paint then he can be a productive player even if he never learns to shoot.

[chabber]

^Exactly, and that goes back to my point that he needs to get a floater or some one handed shots around the rim that he has practiced and knows he can get up on drives when he has the space he was just given there. I know if he gets the defense attention he'll make the right pass. He just needs to develop some moves so that when he's in the game, he'll feel more comfortable putting them to use and he'll be more aggressive.

[LamarMatic7]

^Exactly, and that goes back to my point that he needs to get a floater or some one handed shots around the rim that he has practiced and knows he can get up on drives when he has the space he was just given there. I know if he gets the defense attention he'll make the right pass. He just needs to develop some moves so that when he's in the game he puts them to use and is more aggressive.

Since I made a MKG mixtape after his rookie season and will do so again this year, I can say that I've seen a ton of his made field goals just because I spend time accumulating footage of him. And I don't think that I saw him display this floater during his rookie year:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhZ8i-T6f7U[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5DXIlYnMLU[/youtube]

So that's encouraging. He had a couple of these this season and it definitely is a nice shot to have in your arsenal if you attack the rim a lot.

[chabber]

Nice find Lamar. That's perfect. I knew I had seen him hit some floaters throughout the year. Was that last one from his big game against Miami? I'm pretty sure it was, because I remember it standing out to me. If not it must of been another basket that was similar. Hopefully if he's working on that, and he's starting to put it into games, his confidence will continue to grow and allow him to be more aggressive.

[Eoghan]

That's the first time I've seen him shoot with something resembling passable form.

[LamarMatic7]

Nice find Lamar. That's perfect. I knew I had seen him hit some floaters throughout the year. Was that last one from his big game against Miami? I'm pretty sure it was, because I remember it standing out to me. If not it must of been another basket that was similar. Hopefully if he's working on that, and he's starting to put it into games, his confidence will continue to grow and allow him to be more aggressive.

No, it's from LeBron's 60-point game.

Could this, perhaps, be the floater you remembered?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtiuLNKtFU[/youtube]

This one, indeed, is from his big game in the playoffs against Miami.

[chabber]

Nice find Lamar. That's perfect. I knew I had seen him hit some floaters throughout the year. Was that last one from his big game against Miami? I'm pretty sure it was, because I remember it standing out to me. If not it must of been another basket that was similar. Hopefully if he's working on that, and he's starting to put it into games, his confidence will continue to grow and allow him to be more aggressive.

No, it's from LeBron's 60-point game.

Could this, perhaps, be the floater you remembered?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtiuLNKtFU[/youtube]

This one, indeed, is from his big game in the playoffs against Miami.

That is it indeed. I like that one even better because it was bank shot over a taller extended player, that showed some touch.

[amcoolio]

Its weird how smooth and fluid his layups and floaters are but how jerky his jumpshots are. You'd think it be the other way around, we've all see that kid in gym try a layup and its several different motions.

[chabber]

It is smooth and that is what give me hope at least for his development. The kid has some nice tools, mind you I'm not talking about his jumper. I think if he'd focus on this part of his game more as opposed to the way he attacks the basket like a wrecking ball sometimes, he'd find himself being more productive.

[ARHornet]

Nice find Lamar. That's perfect. I knew I had seen him hit some floaters throughout the year. Was that last one from his big game against Miami? I'm pretty sure it was, because I remember it standing out to me. If not it must of been another basket that was similar. Hopefully if he's working on that, and he's starting to put it into games, his confidence will continue to grow and allow him to be more aggressive.

No, it's from LeBron's 60-point game.

Could this, perhaps, be the floater you remembered?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtiuLNKtFU[/youtube]

This one, indeed, is from his big game in the playoffs against Miami.

I remember thinking after I saw that play that we ought to be using MKG more as a screener in the PnR. That was really the perfect play design to get him moving towards the basket and in position to score.

[JDR720]

MKG needs one of these things
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwNUbwLiWK8[/youtube]

[amcoolio]

MKG needs one of these things
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwNUbwLiWK8[/youtube]

Screw MKG, I need one of those!