The Dante Exum Thread

[fendilim]

Evidently, the after Exum's workout, the Bucks still like Embiid, Parker and Wiggins more. Wiggins got invited for a 2nd workout while Embiid and Parker had Hammond fly out to take them out to dinner. Exum's workout was just good, not great.

Actually its otherwise. Exum was soooo good that he made the bucks brass second guess on embiid, parker and wiggins. Thats why they needed a second workout.

Oh, I get it, Bucks want to wine and dine Embiid, Parker and Wiggins while stating that Exum's workout was just good.

Yup. They dont have to be drunk to see how good of a person with impeccable character Exum is compared to Wiggins, Parker and embiid.

[BadMofoPimp]

Actually its otherwise. Exum was soooo good that he made the bucks brass second guess on embiid, parker and wiggins. Thats why they needed a second workout.

Oh, I get it, Bucks want to wine and dine Embiid, Parker and Wiggins while stating that Exum's workout was just good.

Yup. They dont have to be drunk to see how good of a person with impeccable character Exum is compared to Wiggins, Parker and embiid.

Lets see. The job of a GM is to pick the player that best fits his team not only talent wise, but chemistry wise. Hammond spends extensive time with Embiid, Wiggins and Parker while Exum is in and out for a quick workout. Then, Hammond asks for a second workout from Wiggins.

You can read into that all you want, but when a player nobody knows hardly anything about is in only for a quick workout while the other players are wined and dined, then that is pretty much a sure tell tale sign that Exum is not being considered better than those options.

And, if that is what happened thus far, then I have doubts about Exum being worthy of the 4th pick too.

[Nyce_1]

Oh, I get it, Bucks want to wine and dine Embiid, Parker and Wiggins while stating that Exum's workout was just good.

Yup. They dont have to be drunk to see how good of a person with impeccable character Exum is compared to Wiggins, Parker and embiid.

Lets see. The job of a GM is to pick the player that best fits his team not only talent wise, but chemistry wise. Hammond spends extensive time with Embiid, Wiggins and Parker while Exum is in and out for a quick workout. Then, Hammond asks for a second workout from Wiggins.

You can read into that all you want, but when a player nobody knows hardly anything about is in only for a quick workout while the other players are wined and dined, then that is pretty much a sure tell tale sign that Exum is not being considered better than those options.

And, if that is what happened thus far, then I have doubts about Exum being worthy of the 4th pick too.

Or maybe they're meeting with them again in MIL to actually see how the player likes the city? Since they already interviewed Exum at the combine, no need for a dinner screening, like the others.

[BadMofoPimp]

Or maybe they're meeting with them again in MIL to actually see how the player likes the city? Since they already interviewed Exum at the combine, no need for a dinner screening, like the others.

Are you so sure that an interview at the Combine where there is a line of teams waiting to talk to prospects for a short quick 10-15 minute interview is the same as a personal interview over dinner or at a training facility where there is much less time constraints or pressure?

I seriuosly doubt they know much about Exums character to that much of a degree.

Hammond atually flew out to LA to take Embiid out to dinner.

[Nyce_1]

Or maybe they're meeting with them again in MIL to actually see how the player likes the city? Since they already interviewed Exum at the combine, no need for a dinner screening, like the others.

Are you so sure that an interview at the Combine where there is a line of teams waiting to talk to prospects for a short quick 10-15 minute interview is the same as a personal interview over dinner or at a training facility where there is much less time constraints or pressure?

I seriuosly doubt they know much about Exums character to that much of a degree.

Combine interviews are 30 minutes. Plenty of time to know whether you like someone or not. I'd equate that to a dinner with a prospect. All 4 prospects then make their way to MIL for workout and more talk.

I'm 100% positive, if the top 3 were at the combine, there wouldn't have been a dinner, and just a single workout at the facilities like what Exum got.

[BadMofoPimp]

Exum has been a bit of a problem child leading up to the draft as his father suggested he’d only play for the Boston Celtics or Los Angeles Lakers, though he laster softened that stance a bit stating his son would work out for teams who hold the top four picks.

The elusiveness (combined with Exum’s talent and size) has apparently paid off as the point guard was a likely top ten picks months ago, though has seemingly emerged as a near lock to be selected in the top five which is why the Bucks apparently decided to bring him in.

So how did it all go? That remains a mystery, much like Exum himself as his agent declined an interview request, per Gery Woelful.

“Dante Exum worked out for Bucks today. He politely declined interview, per his agent Rob Pelinka’s instructions.”

Exum himself seems like a kind kid, though, his handlers seem determined to shape the early portion of his career.

http://fansided.com/2014/06/15/nba-draft-rumors-dante-exum-works-bucks/#!ZLvwq

[yoyojw17]

@DraftExpress: DX: Dante Exum vs Marcus Smart and Team USA at the FIBA U19 World Championships http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Dan ... ships-4613 - a possession by possession analysis

Looks like Smart held him in check in the few possession they were matched up. Exum also looks to not like the physicality of team USA.

Agreed on both fronts. However, I have to say that I came away a lot more impressed by what Exum did against the USA than I had anticipated. He showed some elite blow by ability (nearly tripped Smart up on one play, but over dribbled horizontally and turned it over).

He did have some turnovers, but I appreciate the fact that he didn't have a legit secondary ball handler and was still able to beat pressure a few times after his injury. That showed me a point guard who needs to work on his left hand so that his drives will be mixed up.

It was very funny that is seemed as though the post was meant to be an anti-Exum... pro-smart type of evidence.... but yep...i walked away feeling more encouraged to pick him. According to most exum fans.... the Australian team has no talent outside of exum.... blah blah blah.... then you show him up against apparently one of the more talented groups of U19 players by the USA. If you have a "mediocre" team led by one player playing against apparently an "All Star" caliber team (especially on the defensive end).... what do you expect is going to happen. Everyone on the USA Team is able to go full tilt for whatever period of time they are on the floor.... which includes full court press.... which it seemed like they employed the entire game. there is a reason it's not done all the time in the NBA.... because that ish is exhausting. and it's much easier to do when your highest minute player is only playing 22 min. Now you have 3-5 looks on the defensive end and no opportunity to figure out a defender.

http://www.usab.com/misc/13_mu19_usa.pdf

Needless to say... early on in the game.... prior to his injury... I thought he played admirably. He sput his quickness and handles on display in both iso and transition opportunities, whether it led to points or the free throw line. He even got himself freed up for a three pointer. Already playing against stingy defense, post injury play is definitely not going to make anything better.

I was under the impression at first that these numbers were due to poor play.... but now that i saw this video and realizing he played only a handful of minutes in the first quarter and then tried his best to come back in and help his team while injured..... that's pretty commendable and just adds to his character profile.

so yeah... I'm all in all I'm even higher on him than i was before.... thank you DraftExpress. haha

[BadMofoPimp]

Combine interviews are 30 minutes. Plenty of time to know whether you like someone or not. I'd equate that to a dinner with a prospect. All 4 prospects then make their way to MIL for workout and more talk.

I'm 100% positive, if the top 3 were at the combine, there wouldn't have been a dinner, and just a single workout at the facilities like what Exum got.

A 30 minute interview amongst 4-7 other 30 minute interviews if they really lasted that long is absolutely nothing like a formal dinner where someone flew out to meet with you. Those types of dinners last much longer than 30 minutes. I am 100% positive that any team could not learn more at the combine interviews that a personal dinner setting.

[OrlandO]

Exum has been a bit of a problem child leading up to the draft as his father suggested he’d only play for the Boston Celtics or Los Angeles Lakers, though he laster softened that stance a bit stating his son would work out for teams who hold the top four picks.

The elusiveness (combined with Exum’s talent and size) has apparently paid off as the point guard was a likely top ten picks months ago, though has seemingly emerged as a near lock to be selected in the top five which is why the Bucks apparently decided to bring him in.

So how did it all go? That remains a mystery, much like Exum himself as his agent declined an interview request, per Gery Woelful.

“Dante Exum worked out for Bucks today. He politely declined interview, per his agent Rob Pelinka’s instructions.”

Exum himself seems like a kind kid, though, his handlers seem determined to shape the early portion of his career.

http://fansided.com/2014/06/15/nba-draft-rumors-dante-exum-works-bucks/#!ZLvwq

Lakers and Celtics? Amateur news writer confusing Exum and Saric...

[BadMofoPimp]

Exum has been a bit of a problem child leading up to the draft as his father suggested he’d only play for the Boston Celtics or Los Angeles Lakers, though he laster softened that stance a bit stating his son would work out for teams who hold the top four picks.

The elusiveness (combined with Exum’s talent and size) has apparently paid off as the point guard was a likely top ten picks months ago, though has seemingly emerged as a near lock to be selected in the top five which is why the Bucks apparently decided to bring him in.

So how did it all go? That remains a mystery, much like Exum himself as his agent declined an interview request, per Gery Woelful.

“Dante Exum worked out for Bucks today. He politely declined interview, per his agent Rob Pelinka’s instructions.”

Exum himself seems like a kind kid, though, his handlers seem determined to shape the early portion of his career.

http://fansided.com/2014/06/15/nba-draft-rumors-dante-exum-works-bucks/#!ZLvwq

Lakers and Celtics? Amateur news writer confusing Exum and Saric...

FYI. Sarics father never stated this, but Exum's father did.

Although Dante Exum suggested he would only play for the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics, it appears he’ll be playing for neither as it’s believed by many that Exum will not likely last beyond the top five in the upcoming 2014 NBA Draft.

Exum’s father, who has been the mouthpiece of the young Australian recently backed off his stance of only wanting to play for Los Angeles or Boston, suggesting that they would grant teams with top four selections workouts.

http://fansided.com/2014/06/14/nba-draft-rumors-dante-exum-unlikely-fall-top-five/#!ZOa71

I bet that whichever team drafts Exum outside the Lakers or Boston will end up trading him to either Lakers or Boston before next season.

[Nyce_1]

Combine interviews are 30 minutes. Plenty of time to know whether you like someone or not. I'd equate that to a dinner with a prospect. All 4 prospects then make their way to MIL for workout and more talk.

I'm 100% positive, if the top 3 were at the combine, there wouldn't have been a dinner, and just a single workout at the facilities like what Exum got.

A 30 minute interview amongst 4-7 other 30 minute interviews if they really lasted that long is absolutely nothing like a formal dinner where someone flew out to meet with you. Those types of dinners last much longer than 30 minutes. I am 100% positive that any team could not learn more at the combine interviews that a personal dinner setting.

I'm not saying you'd learn more in 30 mins than you would over a formal dinner, but you'll learn enough to know if you like someone or not and would want to bring him in for more interview/workout. These teams have been scouting these players for years and know more about the player before they even meet. Just because a team has dinner with a prospect doesn't hold more weight over not dining with a prospect you've already met with, when the goal of the 2 hr dinner achieves the same as a 30 min meeting.

why do i entertain your posts?

[OrlandO]

http://fansided.com/2014/06/15/nba-draft-rumors-dante-exum-works-bucks/#!ZLvwq

Lakers and Celtics? Amateur news writer confusing Exum and Saric...

FYI. Sarics father never stated this, but Exum's father did.

Although Dante Exum suggested he would only play for the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics, it appears he’ll be playing for neither as it’s believed by many that Exum will not likely last beyond the top five in the upcoming 2014 NBA Draft.

Exum’s father, who has been the mouthpiece of the young Australian recently backed off his stance of only wanting to play for Los Angeles or Boston, suggesting that they would grant teams with top four selections workouts.

http://fansided.com/2014/06/14/nba-draft-rumors-dante-exum-unlikely-fall-top-five/#!ZOa71

I bet that whichever team drafts Exum outside the Lakers or Boston will end up trading him to either Lakers or Boston before next season.

That is the same editor... and he doesn't even link to an in-house article that actually has a quote from his dad. No source, no previous article... nothing, just came out of thin air. Amateur news. Exum said long ago he wanted to play for Lakers or Orlando... no mention of Celtics at all. That was directly from the horse's mouth. This writer pulled Lakers and Celtics out of his memory because that's what Saric made headlines with recently... and Saric's the one with the dad who loves meddling.

[InFlames]

Looks like Smart gave Exum the business but that is not surprising. That video was actually good for Exum even though it was only a few plays. He blew by Payton and seemed to be able to get to the line at will until tweaked his ankle.

[BadMofoPimp]

Exum:

If I get the opportunity to go to L.A. and play for the Lakers, I know I’ll have love for the city. And their fans are loyal and they have the rivalry with the Clippers. But just to be in an environment where you have a great player like Kobe, where you have a mentor in a way as a rookie, I think that would be the best option.

I just want to know his work ethic, what he’s done to be where he is at the moment, because he’s definitely in the talk of one of the greatest of all time. So I want to just pick his brain, what he’s done, how he’s adapted over the years and still been able to average over 20 points in the league.

Exum recently spoke about the man he believes could help shape him: "A reason why I signed with the agent I'm with is he has Kobe Bryant, and he's been through this when he came into the NBA. I guess having him as a mentor who can guide me through what he did, and how he became successful, is something which is pretty good."

[OrlDave]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1939 ... sie-phenom

"They’re having some point guard problems and they’re trying to get Victor Oladipo into the point guard," he said. "Also, having a good relationship with Victor, I think that would be a good fit. He could kind of mentor me a bit coming into the point guard."

Seems like he's perfectly happy to come here. End of argument.

[OrlandO]

Exum:

If I get the opportunity to go to L.A. and play for the Lakers, I know I’ll have love for the city. And their fans are loyal and they have the rivalry with the Clippers. But just to be in an environment where you have a great player like Kobe, where you have a mentor in a way as a rookie, I think that would be the best option.

I just want to know his work ethic, what he’s done to be where he is at the moment, because he’s definitely in the talk of one of the greatest of all time. So I want to just pick his brain, what he’s done, how he’s adapted over the years and still been able to average over 20 points in the league.

Exum recently spoke about the man he believes could help shape him: "A reason why I signed with the agent I'm with is he has Kobe Bryant, and he's been through this when he came into the NBA. I guess having him as a mentor who can guide me through what he did, and how he became successful, is something which is pretty good."

Yup, Lakers AND Magic... not Lakers and Celtics. That fansided writer has a poor memory.

As for the Magic, he envisions helping his close friend Victor Oladipo—they met at Indiana during Exum's recruiting visit when he was contemplating college—with point guard duties.

"They’re having some point guard problems and they’re trying to get Victor Oladipo into the point guard," he said. "Also, having a good relationship with Victor, I think that would be a good fit. He could kind of mentor me a bit coming into the point guard."

Exum is coming in to workout for the Magic early this week, not the Celtics or Lakers. He wants to be here. You know who actually did work out for both the Celtics and Lakers?

I know you felt burned by Dwight and Shaq, but to be completely honest what NBA player didn't grow up wanting to play for the Lakers? If you ask the top prospects in HS and College right now which two teams they'd like to play for in the NBA, I bet nearly every answer would include Lakers. How many would say Magic?

Marcus Smart said this about Boston recently:

“Rondo is one of the greatest point guards to ever play this game. If I’m fortunate enough and Boston picks me, and that means I have to sit on the bench and play behind Rondo, that’s an honor, to learn from one of the greatest point guards of that position, especially me playing the point guard position.”

OMG OMG Smart worked out for Celtics, idolizes Rondo and wants to play in Boston. Does that mean he will force his way to Boston? Nah.

[OrlDave]

Adding to what OrlandO posted. Watch at 7:13.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXDfWk_sA_s#t=433[/youtube]

[Baka_La Flame]

Exum definitly has some red flags. His FT shooting worries me as does his jumper in general. From what I've seen he struggles to get his shot off the bounce.. He needs to do a better job of creating space to get off his jumper especially considering his low realease. His love interest with the Lakers isn't a red flag.. but considering our past history with star players developing here and leaving for LA I would be lying if I said it didn't bother me. He gets to the rim extremely well but I don't know if he's strong enough or explosive enough to finish over some of the better rim protectors in the NBA. All things considered i still wouldn't mind taking him 4th but if we did I would prefer to play it safe with our next pick and try and trade up for Randle. At least if we miss with Exum we would not walk away from the draft empty handed. If we take Smart then we can gamble on potential with our second pick.

[cedric76]

Exum definitly has some red flags. His FT shooting worries me as does his jumper in general. From what I've seen he struggles to get his shot off the bounce.. He needs to do a better job of creating space to get off his jumper especially considering his low realease. His love interest with the Lakers isn't a red flag.. but considering our past history with star players developing here and leaving for LA I would be lying if I said it didn't bother me. He gets to the rim extremely well but I don't know if he's strong enough or explosive enough to finish over some of the better rim protectors in the NBA. All things considered i still wouldn't mind taking him 4th but if we did I would prefer to play it safe with our next pick and try and trade up for Randle. At least if we miss with Exum we would not walk away from the draft empty handed. If we take Smart then we can gamble on potential with our second pick.

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[OrlandO]

Exum definitly has some red flags. His FT shooting worries me as does his jumper in general. From what I've seen he struggles to get his shot off the bounce.. He needs to do a better job of creating space to get off his jumper especially considering his low realease. His love interest with the Lakers isn't a red flag.. but considering our past history with star players developing here and leaving for LA I would be lying if I said it didn't bother me. He gets to the rim extremely well but I don't know if he's strong enough or explosive enough to finish over some of the better rim protectors in the NBA. All things considered i still wouldn't mind taking him 4th but if we did I would prefer to play it safe with our next pick and try and trade up for Randle. At least if we miss with Exum we would not walk away from the draft empty handed. If we take Smart then we can gamble on potential with our second pick.

If Henny drafts Exum I will be insanely excited. Not because of my opinion of Exum, but because it means Henny thought so highly of Exum that he picked him over a much safer pick in Smart, who he's had his eye on for years now.