2014 Official FA Thread

[Kerrsed]

Coming to PHX would help cement Lebrons Legacy. Going to a team that has never won a title and finally getting them (us) over that hill.

Also, when it comes to stars hooking up and trying to be on a team together, it usually favors a team that already has one of those stars is on the team (ala Miami and Wade). We hold Bledsoes Bird Rights, so no matter where him and Lebron plan to go together, we have the final call and can squash it by matching Bledsoes offer. That gives us even more power to get Lebron here (If the rumors are true).

[McStunna]

How is market size determined? I know that places like Los Angeles and New York are considered "big" markets. But what are places like Chicago, Houston and Miami considered? If there are only small, medium and large markets, I'd have to consider Phoenix a medium market. And prior to (and maybe even after) LeBron signing with Miami, I'd have to think they were a medium market. So if any of that's true, I don't see why Phoenix should be discredited merely due to that factor. Also, with markets in mind, doesn't our proximity to Los Angeles count for anything? Maybe that's completely off-topic, but I keep seeing people say, "Free Agent A can't go to Destination B because they're not a big market team."

Lebron is a global icon. As if the market matters, the market comes to him.

Quality of life is probably more important to him when it comes to chosing a city than media market size. That said I think he should choose us for competetive reasons.

[phx#7]

I woke up thinking there was about 0% Lebron comes to Phoenix...after reading a few tweets, I am 80% sure he is coming here. I am terrible at the internet.

You might want to temper your expectations if you're sitting at 80% right now.

[ShawnBronald]

How is market size determined? I know that places like Los Angeles and New York are considered "big" markets. But what are places like Chicago, Houston and Miami considered? If there are only small, medium and large markets, I'd have to consider Phoenix a medium market. And prior to (and maybe even after) LeBron signing with Miami, I'd have to think they were a medium market. So if any of that's true, I don't see why Phoenix should be discredited merely due to that factor. Also, with markets in mind, doesn't our proximity to Los Angeles count for anything? Maybe that's completely off-topic, but I keep seeing people say, "Free Agent A can't go to Destination B because they're not a big market team."

Lebron is a global icon. As if the market matters, the market comes to him.

Quality of life is probably more important to him when it comes to chosing a city than media market size. That said I think he should choose us for competetive reasons.

Agreed. Also, living in Phoenix isn't too shabby, either. I'm fairly certain lots of current and former athletes make their home in the great state of Arizona for a reason.

[JJ13]

I woke up thinking there was about 0% Lebron comes to Phoenix...after reading a few tweets, I am 80% sure he is coming here. I am terrible at the internet.

You might want to temper your expectations if you're sitting at 80% right now.

Sorry captain literal

[Kerrsed]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Vince_Cellini/status/481457360280375296[/tweet]

By the way, Lebron still had 6 days until his deadline to opt out.

[JJ13]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Vince_Cellini/status/481457360280375296[/tweet]

By the way, Lebron still had 6 days until his deadline to opt out.

Yep, Bron Bron and EB have same agent now

[BobbieL]

I woke up thinking there was about 0% Lebron comes to Phoenix...after reading a few tweets, I am 80% sure he is coming here. I am terrible at the internet.

You might want to temper your expectations if you're sitting at 80% right now.

I was about at 0% when I read he opted out

It went to 10% when I read about the Suns have 1.96 out 2.00 to get both Carmelo and LeBron outright with cap space. But with the ability to allow Tucker and Frye to leave; trade away say the 27 pick for a future first rounder that can be tied to future trades; having the Lakers pick (top 5 protected) as an asset and expiring contracts like Morris, Morris and Green - I think the Suns could sign both - using one or two sign and trades

But, reading about Bledsoe and James playing together, I am at about 25%

[JJ13]

Other than market size, which I don't buy, the only (big) reason I see Lebron not wanting PHX is having to play in the western conference. Getting past Spurs, Thunder, Houston, Golden State, Portland MUCH more difficult than the crap east

[Kerrsed]

Rich Paul (Lebron and Bledsoe's agent) could help us alot. The key is us getting Bledsoe a max deal. Their agent also represents Tristan Thompson, who im sure would love to get out of Cleveland, and who i would not be opposed to getting on the Suns. His offense is still a bit raw, but he is a solid defender/rebounder and could be had for cheap. He would also help with our depth if we end up losing Frye and/or MorrisX2 (in trade).

[suns91fan]

I would like the Suns to win their first championship in their own unique way, not the "Lebron" way. I like him as a player, but i feel the Suns will just become "another station" in Lebron's career where he is trying to get more rings for himself. Now, if Suns already had couple of championships in their history, i guess it would be fine to get him, and improve that number. But since they don't, i feel that if Suns win their 1st title, it will become vastly overshadowed by Lebron's Xth title. It would be all about him, and not the Suns. Battling 46 years so hard to get the first title, and then getting it by just signing the best player in the league is somewhat cheap...

That's at least how i see it. You can call me crazy now.

[bwgood77]

How is market size determined? I know that places like Los Angeles and New York are considered "big" markets. But what are places like Chicago, Houston and Miami considered? If there are only small, medium and large markets, I'd have to consider Phoenix a medium market. And prior to (and maybe even after) LeBron signing with Miami, I'd have to think they were a medium market. So if any of that's true, I don't see why Phoenix should be discredited merely due to that factor. Also, with markets in mind, doesn't our proximity to Los Angeles count for anything? Maybe that's completely off-topic, but I keep seeing people say, "Free Agent A can't go to Destination B because they're not a big market team."

Some people think of city size, but in that case, San Antonio is like 9th and Phoenix is like 6th. But the main thing to consider is metro size, because most locations are MUCH bigger when you consider the surrounding areas.

So use this as your rough guide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas

[chefsunsfan7]

What about the comments Lowe and others have made about Sarver leaving a bad impression from the lockout? Does that sound like a legitimate reason for Lebron to pass on us?

[SSOL]

The words "if the Suns win their 1st title" are enough reason for me to fully support it. Also, the fact that he is the world's best player.

[McStunna]

Can we have an official Lebron thread?

[bwgood77]

I would like the Suns to win their first championship in their own unique way, not the "Lebron" way. I like him as a player, but i feel the Suns will just become "another station" in Lebron's career where he is trying to get more rings for himself. Now, if Suns already had couple of championships in their history, i guess it would be fine to get him, and improve that number. But since they don't, i feel that if Suns win their 1st title, it will become vastly overshadowed by Lebron's Xth title. It would be all about him, and not the Suns. Battling 46 years so hard to get a first title, and then getting it by just signing best player in the league is somewhat cheap...

That's at least how i see it. You can call me crazy now.

I hear ya. I somewhat feel the same way. I won't complain if we get LeBron, but I know exactly what you mean. Part of the reason I would be for someone like Love though, is because he hasn't won one either, so to put together a team of guys to get over the hump and win it all for the first time would be more satisfying for me personally.

[Sunsdeuce]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/espntucson/status/481461193878409216[/tweet]

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

How is market size determined? I know that places like Los Angeles and New York are considered "big" markets. But what are places like Chicago, Houston and Miami considered? If there are only small, medium and large markets, I'd have to consider Phoenix a medium market. And prior to (and maybe even after) LeBron signing with Miami, I'd have to think they were a medium market. So if any of that's true, I don't see why Phoenix should be discredited merely due to that factor. Also, with markets in mind, doesn't our proximity to Los Angeles count for anything? Maybe that's completely off-topic, but I keep seeing people say, "Free Agent A can't go to Destination B because they're not a big market team."

Some people think of city size, but in that case, San Antonio is like 9th and Phoenix is like 6th. But the main thing to consider is metro size, because most locations are MUCH bigger when you consider the surrounding areas.

So use this as your rough guide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas

I think it's also important to consider the market outside the city. Arizona is not the most populous state; most states in the east are more populous. At the same time, the Heat share Florida with the Magic. IMO, the biggest selling point is how fun the Suns would be with Lebron: it could capture the imagination of the fans in a way the Heat, really, never did.

Still don't think it's going to happen, but looking at free agency and the draft, if we wanted to combine one rookie with Melo, I think it would be Aaron Gordon. With Kevin Love, either Gordon or Warren. With Lebron, McDermott.

[Kerrsed]

Can we have an official Lebron thread?

No. I plan i starting new threads for FA/Trade/Draft in a day or two due to the fact that there will be a whole hell of alot of activity.

[bwgood77]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/481447369834102785[/tweet]

Am I reading this correctly? Can Miami only offer him $13.6 million? Or can they still re-sign him with bird rights? If they can only offer him that it's pretty much a certainty he is gone. Then Miami would have to go for someone like Deng or whoever.