2014 Draft Thread (Early offseason panic edition).

[Dat2U]

Quick random thoughts since I have no time to do my annual tiers...

I had Embiid on his own tier prior to his injury. To be honest, I don't know what to think since im not a doctor or dont have access to his medical records. I also think the quality of the training staff will play a role in how successful he'll be. If I was Phoenix or Detroit I wouldn't hestitate to draft him.

Exum is the 2nd best prospect IMO. His combo of athleticism, skill and shot creation ability is unmatched in this draft.

I think Marcus Smart will be very good as he improves his jumper.

Wiggins is overrated right now. He's got to improve his skill level to take advantage of his athleticism. He's only an okay role player until then.

It wouldnt surprise me to see Jabari Parker have an Antwan Jamison-like career. I have a hard time seeing him defend 4s at a quality level but his scoring ability will mask those faults to a degree.

Kyle Anderson will be a steal. So might the Jusuf Nurkic kid.

I'd stay away from Randle... I have a hard time seeing him as nothing more than a backup 4 unless his perimeter game takes a huge step forward.

Draft us probably 25 deep with NBA talent...many of the names bandied about as potential 2nd round selections won't stick. Dinwiddle & Craft are two guys that might last a few years.

[Severn Hoos]

Forget the tiny chance that McGary could slide to the Wiz. The Bucks reportedly gave him a guarantee that if he's there on the 1st pick of the 2nd round, they'll pick him.

Nene for Perkins + 29
Draft McGary at 29
Draft Russ Smith at 46

Sorry, forgot what team I was a fan of for a moment there.

[BigA]

Will Ernie keep the 46 pick? Having Ernie as a gm is so depressing.

Ernie will troll the board again by picking someone a lot of you like and start getting excited about, then 20 minutes later we'll find he's been traded for a Euro 3+D type who can't actually shoot. The guy the Wiz draft and trade ends up making the rotation somewhere. The Euro comes for summer league once or twice but is never signed to the team. Good times.

[hands11]

Forget the tiny chance that McGary could slide to the Wiz. The Bucks reportedly gave him a guarantee that if he's there on the 1st pick of the 2nd round, they'll pick him.

Nene for Perkins + 29
Draft McGary at 29
Draft Russ Smith at 46

Sorry, forgot what team I was a fan of for a moment there.

McGary and Russ are two players I would have no problem taking just for their defense.

Again, my standards are..

Top picks should be two way players, unless they are core franchise personalities that can score..i.e. Parker

Second, you go for player that do one of two things really well. Score/Shoot or defend.

I take the defenders over the scores. Player that can only score are not as good for a team as elite defenders and they are easier to find. If all you can do is score, just to break even you have to shoot more to keep even for net points and if you aren't the primary scorer, then you are taking away ball movement, other efficient shots and team offense that get everyone involved and spreads out the opposing team defense.

I would much rather have a great defender. That player will always hold their own. Get the team energized and take the other team out of their offensive rhythm.

McGary, Russ, Aaron Gordon . But with Russ you have to model him to realize he isn't getting drafted to shot like he was. Trim him game down and he will be really good.

[hands11]

hard to have any hype about our second rounder when we couldn't even find minutes for GRJ or Porter--two really good prospects.

Something tell me EG is going to find a way to trade up a few slots like he did last year and in the Kevin/Booker draft.

Hopefully they are targeting Mitch McGary or Russ Smith.

Thanasis Antetokounmpo is real interesting as a long term project if we can find another pick to get him.

[LyricalRico]

Marc J. Spears: The Kings appear poised to keep the 8th pick, sources said. Twitter @SpearsNBAYahoo -

See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.b8XkPsfF.dpuf

[gambitx777]

Honestly I would love it if the wiz made some moves to night picked up more than one player, But honestly I just don't want a wasted pick like Thomas just turned in to.

[gambitx777]

I don't know why everyone is so high on Mitch McGary, there are better bigs to look at late in the draft. like Kirk, Solomon, Lane, Baristow, Powell, and bachynski. not necessarily in that order.

[FAH1223]

We need to take a big man at #46... best available

Our depth on the front line sucks. And we're probably losing Booker.

[nuposse04]

So, I guess my top 5 right now would be at 46:

1. Jefferson-I think he plays much better with a better PG. Andre Miller will absolutely maximize him I believe, as will Wall

2. Jokic- Pretty massive center, off chance he's still there at 46.

3. Russ Smith- Again, might not be there but he's a guy we could instantly use.

4. J. O'Bryant- seems like he could be a banger. Haven't honestly seen much of him to be mad or glad if we pick em.

5. P. Young/D. Powell- Both of these guys I would kind of reluctantly choose. I'd absolutely choose young if his standing reach wasn't so abysmal. Powell could be an ok prospect, just haven't seen enough yet and he's almost 23 :/

[Ruzious]

I don't know why everyone is so high on Mitch McGary, there are better bigs to look at late in the draft. like Kirk, Solomon, Lane, Baristow, Powell, and bachynski. not necessarily in that order.

Because McGary is probably a lot better than all of them. And I like Bachnyski, and Bairstow's interesting. But the other guys, I don't even know who they are, and If I don't know them by now, I'm guessing they're not good - but I could be wrong.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

hard to have any hype about our second rounder when we couldn't even find minutes for GRJ or Porter--two really good prospects.

This draft is sufficiently deep that there are perhaps 3 or 4 really good second round players who will be impact players day 1.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Powell intrigues me...but I just don't know if he'll be able to contribute considering where he might be picked. If he's picked top half of the 2nd round, you're looking at a rotational player, spot starter. At 46? Who knows if he'll even get off the bench

I share the same concerns about Powell. He's a height based pick. Nene starts and Gooden is a good stretch four backup. I think it'll be like Porter backing Ariza and Webster if Powell is drafted. No minutes.



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[FAH1223]

hard to have any hype about our second rounder when we couldn't even find minutes for GRJ or Porter--two really good prospects.

This draft is sufficiently deep that there are perhaps 3 or 4 really good second round players who impact players day 1.

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I hope Glen Rice, Porter, and the #46 pick are contributors starting in Training Camp.

It's really understated but we had an older roster by the end of the season. I have no qualms with Gooden and Miller back but our depth needs a youth infusion in the front court.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Forget the tiny chance that McGary could slide to the Wiz. The Bucks reportedly gave him a guarantee that if he's there on the 1st pick of the 2nd round, they'll pick him.

Nene for Perkins + 29
Draft McGary at 29
Draft Russ Smith at 46

Sorry, forgot what team I was a fan of for a moment there.

It's nice to dream.

Too bad SEAL Team 6 can't first take out one suspect GM before the trade for pick 29.

This year that #18 pick could be for a future all star. So could the #29, and for sure a starting caliber player.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Will Ernie keep the 46 pick? Having Ernie as a gm is so depressing.

Ernie will troll the board again by picking someone a lot of you like and start getting excited about, then 20 minutes later we'll find he's been traded for a Euro 3+D type who can't actually shoot. The guy the Wiz draft and trade ends up making the rotation somewhere. The Euro comes for summer league once or twice but is never signed to the team. Good times.

He really got me with Wolters.

Wolters traded was a nice #FUCCJ.

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[nuposse04]

This was posted on BF in a discussion, interesting to see what WP48 predicts, apparently Capela is the best guy in the draft, lol?

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5547/145 ... 0c1d_o.png

I still don't trust end all stats without context.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

So, I guess my top 5 right now would be at 46:

1. Jefferson-I think he plays much better with a better PG. Andre Miller will absolutely maximize him I believe, as will Wall

2. Jokic- Pretty massive center, off chance he's still there at 46.

3. Russ Smith- Again, might not be there but he's a guy we could instantly use.

4. J. O'Bryant- seems like he could be a banger. Haven't honestly seen much of him to be mad or glad if we pick em.

5. P. Young/D. Powell- Both of these guys I would kind of reluctantly choose. I'd absolutely choose young if his standing reach wasn't so abysmal. Powell could be an ok prospect, just haven't seen enough yet and he's almost 23 :/

I don't want EG picking a European. Pecherov, Vesely, Veeremenko, Satoransky... I gotta bias against Jokic for strictly historical reasons.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

This was posted on BF in a discussion, interesting to see what WP48 predicts, apparently Capela is the best guy in the draft, lol?

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5547/145 ... 0c1d_o.png

I still don't trust end all stats without context.

Clint Capela in that case will end up a Spur. If not another team that drafts well, OKC or Portland e.g. will select him.

I haven't looked at stats extensively like I usually do before the draft. My gut feeling is that the bottom of round one to mid round two contains 3 or 4 lottery talents. Warren, McDaniels, and IMO Smith and/or Burton could be a lot better than pre draft projections. Stokes is a beast. I won't be shocked if WP/48 is right but I know next to nothing about Capela.

It just seems like that kind of draft where a "Millsap" can go 47 or a "Ginobili" goes 57.

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[nuposse04]

So, I guess my top 5 right now would be at 46:

1. Jefferson-I think he plays much better with a better PG. Andre Miller will absolutely maximize him I believe, as will Wall

2. Jokic- Pretty massive center, off chance he's still there at 46.

3. Russ Smith- Again, might not be there but he's a guy we could instantly use.

4. J. O'Bryant- seems like he could be a banger. Haven't honestly seen much of him to be mad or glad if we pick em.

5. P. Young/D. Powell- Both of these guys I would kind of reluctantly choose. I'd absolutely choose young if his standing reach wasn't so abysmal. Powell could be an ok prospect, just haven't seen enough yet and he's almost 23 :/

I don't want EG picking a European. Pecherov, Vesely, Veeremenko, Satoransky... I gotta bias against Jokic for strictly historical reasons.

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I'm ok with that mentality. EG does tend to **** up the euro selections. We do need a presence in the middle though. The guys shear size may make him worth looking at (i guess the same could be said of Sim but he's just way too slow). Another guy who was a monster was Birch. He almost had 4 blocks a game...of course DX has the spurs taking him so.... maybe we should consider? lol