Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew

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Broussard: limited to 15 million from Bulls

[_JudasGFX]

Let me get this straight. Some of you guys really do not want to give up on Mirotic ?

If we keep him too, what can we offer to Melo? 10 million per year?

[ingvald]

Broussard: Knicks chances have improved

...and saying the Bulls can only offer $15M unless they S&T Boozer to Knicks. More cap ignorance. Also saying Melo won't turn down $22M from Knicks, fails to mention Knicks haven't offered that. Dumping Felton and Chandler building confidence in Phil.

More of the same.

[GMgoran]

Mirotic is a diva

Mirotic has a very good chance of quickly getting in thibs doghouse

Very good chance he won't be a good rebounder or defender

If melo chooses Chicago we have no time for a youth movement. We need vets so we can compete year 1 of melo arrival. We don't have time for mirotic to develop into something.

Dont be ridiculous. Taj is 28, Noah is near 30 and Melo is 30. Thats an aging frontcourt. If you want to compete long term you bring in fresh, young legs and meld them in alongside your older guys. Thats how its done.

Youngsters don't win rings

Vets do. Why are you thinking long term when we trying to recruit a 30 yr old vet? And mirotic is not coming along with Parker ginobli and Duncan like kawhi did. You don't move taj for mirotic if you plan on competing immediately you don't have the years to wait for mirotic to develop. And mirotic strong suit is scoring from the outside not like he coming in dominating the glass blocking shots and protecting the rim. He a youngster that needs to bulk up and in thibs system could be a liability. Taj is ready now, many experts have said mirotic needs a couple of years.

If our main target was Kevin love and we were opening our window for 4-7 years then yea mirotic but melo coming means a 2-4 year window and taj is better in that situation

You are right ... Bringing over Toni Kukoc back in 1993 was a massive mistake ... We would have probably won 2-3 more titles with that team, had we not wasted playing time into his development ...

[Hangtime84]

OMG I was just reading the Knciks board Melo thread. I cant believe what those Bulls posters got banned for. The most innocuous comments are labeled trolling.

Ya and they had a nyk moderator here doing worse.

Some mods "Get it" while others don't. They are still "fans" too.

[WinCity]

Mirotic is a diva

Mirotic has a very good chance of quickly getting in thibs doghouse

Very good chance he won't be a good rebounder or defender

If melo chooses Chicago we have no time for a youth movement. We need vets so we can compete year 1 of melo arrival. We don't have time for mirotic to develop into something.

Dont be ridiculous. Taj is 28, Noah is near 30 and Melo is 30. Thats an aging frontcourt. If you want to compete long term you bring in fresh, young legs and meld them in alongside your older guys. Thats how its done.

Youngsters don't win rings

Vets do. Why are you thinking long term when we trying to recruit a 30 yr old vet? And mirotic is not coming along with Parker ginobli and Duncan like kawhi did. You don't move taj for mirotic if you plan on competing immediately you don't have the years to wait for mirotic to develop. And mirotic strong suit is scoring from the outside not like he coming in dominating the glass blocking shots and protecting the rim. He a youngster that needs to bulk up and in thibs system could be a liability. Taj is ready now, many experts have said mirotic needs a couple of years.

If our main target was Kevin love and we were opening our window for 4-7 years then yea mirotic but melo coming means a 2-4 year window and taj is better in that situation

Your entire post is irrelevant (compare the bolded part to what we were discussing before you jumped on).

[ingvald]

Let me get this straight. Some of you guys really do not want to give up on Mirotic ?

If we keep him too, what can we offer to Melo? 10 million per year?

For me, that's not even it. Its making Phil a S&T offer he can't refuse.

[Droseisthe1]

[LobosJordan]

ESPN hates the idea of Melo to the Bulls. Their bias against Chicago is disgusting.

[WinCity]

Broussard: limited to 15 million from Bulls

Is this based on what GarPax said in the meeting or what Broussard's "analysis" tells him. If the former I officially register my

[fleet]

Broussard: Knicks chances have improved

... Also saying Melo won't turn down $22M from Knicks, fails to mention Knicks haven't offered that. .

Yeah, whats up with that? Nobody on national radio has said anything about the report that Phil is offering the max. So is he or is he not being offered the max? You might think that would get reported and carried on all the outlets

[Mech Engineer]

One more important comment from the Pax interview....he said it is a cat and mouse game. The advantage keeps shifting and the Knicks are not going to get any big advantage(except the money part) in their position unlike the Bulls who can show interest in other player, they now know where the cut-off point for the minimum for Melo is etc...

If Melo has said yesterday, my minimum to change teams is 18, then the Bulls get the leverage in the S & T talks.

[siriusjames]

Broussard is trash.

[LobosJordan]

Nobody is saying it because it isn't true. Broussard is spouting BS. The Knicks aren't giving him the max. The hyperbole of going from 22 to 15 (which isn't even the Bulls max) is ridiculous.

[ingvald]

Broussard: Knicks chances have improved

... Also saying Melo won't turn down $22M from Knicks, fails to mention Knicks haven't offered that. .

Yeah, whats up with that? Nobody on national radio has said anything about the report that Phil is offering the max. So is he or is he not being offered the max? You might think that would get reported and carried on all the outlets

...and then Meatballa and Mangirl made snide comments about how big of a paycut it is.

[Droseisthe1]

Broussard: Melo likes Phil's moves, has confidence in Phil

[fleet]

Nobody is saying it because it isn't true. Broussard is spouting BS. The Knicks aren't giving him the max. The hyperbole of going from 22 to 15 (which isn't even the Bulls max) is ridiculous.

well, somebody on our board said Windhorst said it on Sportscenter. Then....silence in the media world. Needs to be clarified. Did one of our people hear that wrong and report it wrong?

[LobosJordan]

Also the Knicks are trash. Broussard saying they will be GREAT in 2015 is laughable.

[Proven_Winner]

I have a lot of respect for your fan base, you guys are entertaining to say the least

You have been very respectful and insightful while posting here, among some of the other Knicks posters that have come here.

As an aside, yesterdays Melo threads were awesome. Great entertainment for sure.

I know this is a huge time for you guys so I tread lightly

Basically I just browse and post if there's anything guys should kno or that need clarifying

One of the coolest Knicks posters . At least you understand that we joke a lot here and just because 1 guy here says something doesn't mean everyone else agrees. Nice to have you here man.

[weneeda2guard]

Dont be ridiculous. Taj is 28, Noah is near 30 and Melo is 30. Thats an aging frontcourt. If you want to compete long term you bring in fresh, young legs and meld them in alongside your older guys. Thats how its done.

Youngsters don't win rings

Vets do. Why are you thinking long term when we trying to recruit a 30 yr old vet? And mirotic is not coming along with Parker ginobli and Duncan like kawhi did. You don't move taj for mirotic if you plan on competing immediately you don't have the years to wait for mirotic to develop. And mirotic strong suit is scoring from the outside not like he coming in dominating the glass blocking shots and protecting the rim. He a youngster that needs to bulk up and in thibs system could be a liability. Taj is ready now, many experts have said mirotic needs a couple of years.

If our main target was Kevin love and we were opening our window for 4-7 years then yea mirotic but melo coming means a 2-4 year window and taj is better in that situation[/quote


You are right ... Bringing over Toni Kukoc back in 1993 was a massive mistake ... We would have probably won 2-3 more titles with that team, had we not wasted playing time into his development ...

Toni kukoc wasn't coming to join Derrick rose melo and Noah either while removing a athletic shot blocking great defending power forward with great experience and fitting well in thibs system either. If mirotic was joining pippen and I guess you know the greatest damn player that ever played then yea no issues with mirotic but he not and you removing a great contributor in taj and going with a guy who may need a couple years to develop, that makes no sense.

On top of that we have drafted a guy who possibly could be a more solid contributor than mirotic in McDermott so if ny want mirotic to make a s&t happen you send him and don't think twice about it

Melo rose Noah will have to clash with the likes of lebron wade and bosh they have no time for mirotic to be a liability they need seasoned guys ready to win now to face those guys. Last thing we need is bosh cooking mirotic on the other end with taj gone and no way to cover him to close games.