Official Miami Heat 2014 Offseason Thread 3.0 (Rumors/News)

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Or if Bosh commits to a damn dollar amount with the Heat, then we can have more options as well ?

We could get more money if Bosh commits or says he's leaving.

But of course that is probably unacceptable to you, it's all LeBrons fault.

I seriously do not understand how you are posting just trash. Are you reading what you are posting ? You are coming across as a bitter fan who is afraid that LeBron might leave.

LeBron is the ONLY one of the Big 3 who actually has told the Heat what his amount will be to return. Pat Riley knows exactly what he is getting with LeBron. Bosh and Wade on the other hand have NOT agreed to a dollar amount. How can Pat Riley offer money to Free Agents when he does NOT know what amount those guys want ?

But then again, that is probably also LeBron's fault right ?

Ofc its lebrons fault. By lebron asking for the max, that means Wade and Bosh are stuck.

If Wade and Bosh ask for max = NO MONEY to bring in help. Team has even less help than last year.

So lebron asking for max has put wade and bosh in a position like "wtf is going to happen to our team then?"

[Tuff Gong]

If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.

This makes a ton of sense although I don't buy it yet.

[Tuff Gong]

If you stop the panic and think about it, it seems pretty clear to me what's going on.

James, Wade, Bosh all want back in, but, we know they want a better team. What they likely did is they all agreed with Pat to give him the first week-10 days to go out there, interview candidates, take the pulse of the market, get some dollar figures on possible options.

With that intel, Pat will then meet back with the Wade/Bosh/James this week and then give them a proposal of what he'd like to do and how much money he needs to make it happen. Once they have that info, the 3 will then figure out what they're comfortable with and then Pat will start getting agreements from others.

After they're locked in and the money is allocated, James / Bosh / Wade will then sign and get theirs.

If other teams weren't meeting with our targets this would make perfect sense.

Why woudnt they? Nothing is agreed upon yet. When we were looking to clear space for Miller in 2010 he met with other teams. Battier did. Ray did. This is still a business. Why wouldn't those guys and their agents hear the pitches of all teams interested?

[Amorphous Blob]

I honestly think Lebron wants to stay in Miami his family seems to enjoy the lifestyle and so does he but he wants an improved roster as well that's why he's giving Pat so much time.

[mawan041]

Or if Bosh commits to a damn dollar amount with the Heat, then we can have more options as well ?

We could get more money if Bosh commits or says he's leaving.

But of course that is probably unacceptable to you, it's all LeBrons fault.

I seriously do not understand how you are posting just trash. Are you reading what you are posting ? You are coming across as a bitter fan who is afraid that LeBron might leave.

LeBron is the ONLY one of the Big 3 who actually has told the Heat what his amount will be to return. Pat Riley knows exactly what he is getting with LeBron. Bosh and Wade on the other hand have NOT agreed to a dollar amount. How can Pat Riley offer money to Free Agents when he does NOT know what amount those guys want ?

But then again, that is probably also LeBron's fault right ?

Ofc its lebrons fault. By lebron asking for the max, that means Wade and Bosh are stuck.

If Wade and Bosh ask for max = NO MONEY to bring in help. Team has even less help than last year.

So lebron asking for max has put wade and bosh in a position like "wtf is going to happen to our team then?"

Right, so then what the hell are they waiting for ? Make a damn decision already. Do they also want
MAX money or not. That would give Pat Riley and idea of what he has to work with.

How are you not understanding this ?

Lebron has NEVER been the highest paid player on his own damn teams, remember this is the BEST player
on the planet. It is now a crime that he wants to get paid ???

What part of Wade and Bosh's game translates them to being MAX MONEY type of players ??

Wade missed 1/3rd of the season. When was the last time he even put up back to back GREAT playoff series ?
The same with Bosh ?

[rawa13]

The only encouraging thing so far is Wade opting out. He wouldn't get half the money he left on the table and that probably means he was part of some sort of understanding.

Loyalty aside, if we could get only Lebron to sign, and not Wade or Bosh, we would be ok. Other pieces can be added later.

Only if Howard's free agency had coincided with Lebron's! Last time as well as this time ..

[Tuff Gong]

9 million should land us Gasol & Morrow.

Chalmers/Napier/Ridnour
Wade/Allen/Ennis
James/Morrow/JJ
Bosh/Lewis/Haslem
Gasol/Birdman/Oden

Just threw Ridnour in as a vet minimum PG. Always liked him as a serviceable guy. Would be nice to get an amnestied Boozer too. Bench isn't great, but is much better if Napier and Ennis contribute early on.

[fast-break]

Or if Bosh commits to a damn dollar amount with the Heat, then we can have more options as well ?

We could get more money if Bosh commits or says he's leaving.

But of course that is probably unacceptable to you, it's all LeBrons fault.

I seriously do not understand how you are posting just trash. Are you reading what you are posting ? You are coming across as a bitter fan who is afraid that LeBron might leave.

LeBron is the ONLY one of the Big 3 who actually has told the Heat what his amount will be to return. Pat Riley knows exactly what he is getting with LeBron. Bosh and Wade on the other hand have NOT agreed to a dollar amount. How can Pat Riley offer money to Free Agents when he does NOT know what amount those guys want ?

But then again, that is probably also LeBron's fault right ?

Ofc its lebrons fault. By lebron asking for the max, that means Wade and Bosh are stuck.

If Wade and Bosh ask for max = NO MONEY to bring in help. Team has even less help than last year.

So lebron asking for max has put wade and bosh in a position like "wtf is going to happen to our team then?"

Right, so then what the hell are they waiting for ? Make a damn decision already. Do they also want
MAX money or not. That would give Pat Riley and idea of what he has to work with.

How are you not understanding this ?

Lebron has NEVER been the highest paid player on his own damn teams, remember this is the BEST player
on the planet. It is now a crime that he wants to get paid ???

What part of Wade and Bosh's game translates them to being MAX MONEY type of players ??

Wade missed 1/3rd of the season. When was the last time he even put up back to back GREAT playoff series ?
The same with Bosh ?

Please stop responding to StrengthNHonor, his incredibly stupid posts suck up bandwidth and will crash teh internetz.

[fsuizzy]

Alright this kind of blows I have a friend that works for the CAVs organization and just within the organization there are talks on bringing him back, but it's not a set or done deal and NOT REMOTELY CLOSE but it's spreading like wildfire throughout their organization. So if you hear he is signing Weds. that is completely FALSE just a false rumor started on Twitter. But there is contact within the CAVs organization with Lebron's inner circle to make a move but there has been since Free Agency began.

Take it for what it is, my friend is not high up either. Just in marketing.

Also the rumors going around town were literally RUMORS started on twitter that grew out of control and that is why nobody is reporting it.

[DefenseWins]

Lol I thought this was funny

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMichaelLee ... 7671631873

[HeatNation88]

Alright this kind of blows I have a friend that works for the CAVs organization and just within the organization there are talks on bringing him back, but it's not a set or done deal and NOT REMOTELY CLOSE but it's spreading like wildfire throughout their organization. So if you hear he is signing Weds. that is completely FALSE just a false rumor started on Twitter. But there is contact within the CAVs organization with Lebron's inner circle to make a move but there has been since Free Agency began.

Take it for what it is, my friend is not high up either. Just in marketing.

Also the rumors going around town were literally RUMORS started on twitter that grew out of control and that is why nobody is reporting it.

Their was some reporters tweeting about that all those rumors of LeBron going to back to the Cavs and that it's a done deal is just a rumor... These fans are spreading hope and positivity which isn't bad but will hurt them at the end...

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Or if Bosh commits to a damn dollar amount with the Heat, then we can have more options as well ?

We could get more money if Bosh commits or says he's leaving.

But of course that is probably unacceptable to you, it's all LeBrons fault.

I seriously do not understand how you are posting just trash. Are you reading what you are posting ? You are coming across as a bitter fan who is afraid that LeBron might leave.

LeBron is the ONLY one of the Big 3 who actually has told the Heat what his amount will be to return. Pat Riley knows exactly what he is getting with LeBron. Bosh and Wade on the other hand have NOT agreed to a dollar amount. How can Pat Riley offer money to Free Agents when he does NOT know what amount those guys want ?

But then again, that is probably also LeBron's fault right ?

Ofc its lebrons fault. By lebron asking for the max, that means Wade and Bosh are stuck.

If Wade and Bosh ask for max = NO MONEY to bring in help. Team has even less help than last year.

So lebron asking for max has put wade and bosh in a position like "wtf is going to happen to our team then?"

Right, so then what the hell are they waiting for ? Make a damn decision already. Do they also want
MAX money or not. That would give Pat Riley and idea of what he has to work with.

How are you not understanding this ?

Lebron has NEVER been the highest paid player on his own damn teams, remember this is the BEST player
on the planet. It is now a crime that he wants to get paid ???

What part of Wade and Bosh's game translates them to being MAX MONEY type of players ??

Wade missed 1/3rd of the season. When was the last time he even put up back to back GREAT playoff series ?
The same with Bosh ?

Bosh can get a max contract somewhere else. Rockets would do it.

If LBJ is asking for max, then he is intentionally sabotaging the team. Because if Bosh gets the same attitude and asks for max, then we will have no money to sign help.

So in the same breath, LBJ wants a max contract, but then he also wants roster IMPROVEMENTS.

LBJ going straight Kobe Mode on the Heat. Damn Shame.

[insfo]

Alright this kind of blows I have a friend that works for the CAVs organization and just within the organization there are talks on bringing him back, but it's not a set or done deal and NOT REMOTELY CLOSE but it's spreading like wildfire throughout their organization. So if you hear he is signing Weds. that is completely FALSE just a false rumor started on Twitter. But there is contact within the CAVs organization with Lebron's inner circle to make a move but there has been since Free Agency began.

Take it for what it is, my friend is not high up either. Just in marketing.

Also the rumors going around town were literally RUMORS started on twitter that grew out of control and that is why nobody is reporting it.

meh .. nothing new .. just another "insider" posting information of how Bron is going to the Cavs.

Next.

[mawan041]

The only encouraging thing so far is Wade opting out. He wouldn't get half the money he left on the table and that probably means he was part of some sort of understanding.

Loyalty aside, if we could get only Lebron to sign, and not Wade or Bosh, we would be ok. Other pieces can be added later.

Only if Howard's free agency had coincided with Lebron's! Last time as well as this time ..

I respect your opinion but I disagree entirely. The most reasonable and logical resolution is for Bosh and Wade to sign. They need to make their minds up about a dollar amount and simply sign. We know what Lebron's number is, MAX dollar. That way Riley will know exactly what he is working with.

He can then add pieces whether we have $8 Million in cap space or $15 Million. He could get agreements with other players, bring that to the attention of the big 3. If at that point Lebron is not happy, then you simply tell him to commit or walk, PERIOD.

Also, you tell him straight up if you want better players, you have to take a discount. He will be on the hot seat then. Miami can move on without him if he doesn't commit at that point.

To me though, it all starts with Bosh and Wade settling on a number first and foremost, that's what's holding the Heat back right now.

[DefenseWins]

Bosh is coming back and isn't taking the max


The end

[fsuizzy]

Alright this kind of blows I have a friend that works for the CAVs organization and just within the organization there are talks on bringing him back, but it's not a set or done deal and NOT REMOTELY CLOSE but it's spreading like wildfire throughout their organization. So if you hear he is signing Weds. that is completely FALSE just a false rumor started on Twitter. But there is contact within the CAVs organization with Lebron's inner circle to make a move but there has been since Free Agency began.

Take it for what it is, my friend is not high up either. Just in marketing.

Also the rumors going around town were literally RUMORS started on twitter that grew out of control and that is why nobody is reporting it.

meh .. nothing new .. just another "insider" posting information of how Bron is going to the Cavs.

Next.

No actually he said he isn't going to the CAVs to be honest. They felt that this whole thing actually started on Twitter. But they are using it to their advantage now.

And to be honest we already knew Lebron contacted the CAVs as well as other teams. Well his agent did on the 1st.

So it's kinda relevant. I hope this puts out some fires for you.

[Chi-NYC]

I come in peace...

You don't have to believe me but I promise you I have inside information.

I get my info for an NBA Allstar on a team in the east. Yes I am bulls fan 1st (my inside info does not come from the bulls team) and my inside info told me we are not getting melo unless something happens before Monday. Regarding the Heat- It is between heat and Cavs. Heat are in the lead but not by as much as you may hope.. My guy he has a family member that has been told to look at houses in clev incase James does sign because cavs have 3 trades on ice once they get the go-ahead by james.

You don't have to believe but I just thought you guys should know!

#HappyFreeagency!

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

I come in peace...

You don't have to believe me but I promise you I have inside information.

I get my info for an NBA Allstar on a team in the east. Yes I am bulls fan 1st (my inside info does not come from the bulls team) and my inside info told me we are not getting melo unless something happens before Monday. Regarding the Heat- It is between heat and Cavs. Heat are in the lead but not by as much as you may hope.. My guy he has a family member that has been told to look at houses in clev incase James does sign because cavs have 3 trades on ice once they get the go-ahead by james.

You don't have to believe but I just thought you guys should know!

#HappyFreeagency!

I assume 1 of those trades is to send young unproven talent to the Wolves in exchange for Kevin Love.

PG - Irving
SG - Waiters
SF - Lebron
PF - Varejao
C - Love

[Heat_Fan_87]

I come in peace...

You don't have to believe me but I promise you I have inside information.

I get my info for an NBA Allstar on a team in the east. Yes I am bulls fan 1st (my inside info does not come from the bulls team) and my inside info told me we are not getting melo unless something happens before Monday. Regarding the Heat- It is between heat and Cavs. Heat are in the lead but not by as much as you may hope.. My guy he has a family member that has been told to look at houses in clev incase James does sign because cavs have 3 trades on ice once they get the go-ahead by james.

You don't have to believe but I just thought you guys should know!

#HappyFreeagency!

I don't believe a word you are saying.
#trollswithmotive

[Eaglenugget]

I come in peace...

You don't have to believe me but I promise you I have inside information.

I get my info for an NBA Allstar on a team in the east. Yes I am bulls fan 1st (my inside info does not come from the bulls team) and my inside info told me we are not getting melo unless something happens before Monday. Regarding the Heat- It is between heat and Cavs. Heat are in the lead but not by as much as you may hope.. My guy he has a family member that has been told to look at houses in clev incase James does sign because cavs have 3 trades on ice once they get the go-ahead by james.

You don't have to believe but I just thought you guys should know!

#HappyFreeagency!

Wonder why lebron just doesn't go then if the Cavs have everything in place. Hmmmm
Mm lol