Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[theFireBlanket]

Come on guys this is the Bucks. We saw the bid on Teague last summer and lost him. And now the same drama will happen with Bledsoe. Rinse and repeat. It's so frustrating being a Bucks fan - where the hott thing now is to throw money at restricted free agent - lol. As if we haven't been put through enough stress the past umpteen years. Be Milwaukee!


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The difference being that they tried to get Teague on a bargain contract via Drew and the Hawks felt no threat matching it. Lasry & Edens seem as if they'll willingly offer the max if they really want Bledsoe, which could push the Suns to let him go (make a deal).

[[MIKE C]]

I really think that's an oversimplification. I just don't see any real incentive for Phoenix to let him go.

While I don't think Bledsoe leaves Phoenix, years ago, Joe Johnson was adamant about leaving for the Hawks (when he was restricted as a Sun) and we actually gave in and did a sign and trade.
So it's certainly possible in the even Bledsoe demanded out. I still don't see it happening but it has been seen before fwiw.

Exactly.

I agree with what Paul is saying here. I think the best chance of something happening is if Bledsoe speaks up and tells the Suns that he wants to leave. Maybe if Bledsoe decides he wants to be a full time PG and Kidd and the owners put the sales pitch on to convince him that Milwaukee is the best fit for him he'll speak up and tell the Suns he wants to go. Of course the Suns may decide he's too valuable and keep him anyway, but I think that's the only way the Bucks have a chance. Otherwise if Bledsoe gives no indication that he wants out of Phoenix then I think it's a pretty strong bet the Suns will match any offer. But if the Suns are faced with a max contract for a player that is saying he wants to leave and the Bucks are able to dangle some assets that may interest them, then who knows.

[Chuck Diesel]

Just cause Dragic played behind Nash in Phoenix does not make him Steve Nash.

It's not the rule that guys play well into their 30's, it's the exception.

Alright bro.

So if we were to sign Goran Dragic to a four year deal next summer, he'd be a Buck from the ages of 29-32. Please reference the careers of the following point guards between the ages of 29-32. This is just a small smattering. The list could go on on and on.

Chauncey Billups-http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html
Sam Cassell- http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... esa01.html
Andre Miller- http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ean02.html
Mark jackson-http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jacksma01.html
Maurice Cheeks- http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... kma01.html
Rod Strickland-http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stricro02.html

There is simply no logical argument to be made against Giannis and Parker playing with a borderline all-star point guard for four years in their early twenties.

[[MIKE C]]

Come on guys this is the Bucks. We saw the bid on Teague last summer and lost him. And now the same drama will happen with Bledsoe. Rinse and repeat. It's so frustrating being a Bucks fan - where the hott thing now is to throw money at restricted free agent - lol. As if we haven't been put through enough stress the past umpteen years. Be Milwaukee!


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The difference being that they tried to get Teague on a bargain contract via Drew and the Hawks felt no threat matching it. Lasry & Edens seem as if they'll willingly offer the max if they really want Bledsoe, which could push the Suns to let him go (make a deal).

The Bucks also never tried to work out a sign and trade with the Hawks before they signed Teague to the contract, did they? I would think a sign and trade with the Suns is still a strong possibility.

[emunney]

Come on guys this is the Bucks. We saw the bid on Teague last summer and lost him. And now the same drama will happen with Bledsoe. Rinse and repeat. It's so frustrating being a Bucks fan - where the hott thing now is to throw money at restricted free agent - lol. As if we haven't been put through enough stress the past umpteen years. Be Milwaukee!


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The difference being that they tried to get Teague on a bargain contract via Drew and the Hawks felt no threat matching it. Lasry & Edens seem as if they'll willingly offer the max if they really want Bledsoe, which could push the Suns to let him go (make a deal).

The Bucks also never tried to work out a sign and trade with the Hawks before they signed Teague to the contract, did they? I would think a sign and trade with the Suns is still a strong possibility.

No, they did. It was when those negotiations stalemated that Teague finally signed the offer sheet.

[ReddRum]

Come on guys this is the Bucks. We saw the bid on Teague last summer and lost him. And now the same drama will happen with Bledsoe. Rinse and repeat. It's so frustrating being a Bucks fan - where the hott thing now is to throw money at restricted free agent - lol. As if we haven't been put through enough stress the past umpteen years. Be Milwaukee!


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The difference being that they tried to get Teague on a bargain contract via Drew and the Hawks felt no threat matching it. Lasry & Edens seem as if they'll willingly offer the max if they really want Bledsoe, which could push the Suns to let him go (make a deal).

The Bucks also never tried to work out a sign and trade with the Hawks before they signed Teague to the contract, did they? I would think a sign and trade with the Suns is still a strong possibility.

You guys bring up some good points. I would love Bledsoe - just don't think it gets done. I think they ask for too much in a sign and trade.


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[MrPerfect1]

for the guys who don't want Bledsoe......

should we pass on any great young player within a year of their first big contract too? should we not try and improve the roster by trade using this parameter? was it a good thing we didn't get Bledsoe in trade from LAC last year?

anybody who was upset we didn't give up assets in a trade for Bledsoe last year, and now don't want him for free in FA this year.... you make no sense. Bledsoe was always going to get paid. I thought the point was that we would be the ones to pay him.

For the next few years we should avoid any "Great" young player who is more than 3 years older than Parker and Giannis. The only exceptions are for Lebron, Durant, and Anthony Davis.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Thank you for the history lesson.

Still won't convince me it's a good idea to sign a 29 year old guy to go with our 20 year old core as a good idea.

[[MIKE C]]

The difference being that they tried to get Teague on a bargain contract via Drew and the Hawks felt no threat matching it. Lasry & Edens seem as if they'll willingly offer the max if they really want Bledsoe, which could push the Suns to let him go (make a deal).

The Bucks also never tried to work out a sign and trade with the Hawks before they signed Teague to the contract, did they? I would think a sign and trade with the Suns is still a strong possibility.

No, they did. It was when those negotiations stalemated that Teague finally signed the offer sheet.

Ok. Thanks. I guess I forgot about that. I'm trying to remember what the Bucks might have been offering. Is that when people were talking about a dual sign and trade with Jennings and Teague?

[Chuck Diesel]

Thank you for the history lesson.

Still won't convince me it's a good idea to sign a 29 year old guy to go with our 20 year old core as a good idea.

There is no universe in which every key member of an NBA team is the same age. Free agents are signed to four year contracts.

[FlagsFlyForever]

Thank you for the history lesson.

Still won't convince me it's a good idea to sign a 29 year old guy to go with our 20 year old core as a good idea.

Can you elaborate? 32 is not old.


There was one good argument I heard about why age is important and that was from White+Purple when I suggested we should pass on Bledsoe this year and make a run at him in 2018.

HIs elite athleticism will peak at 25/26 and crash at 30 - I'm staying away from him in 2018.

I completely disagre with this line of thinking, but I understand where he's coming from. To me, 24 is no different from 28 which is no different from 32.

[Baddy Chuck]

There is no universe in which every key member of an NBA team is the same age. Free agents are signed to four year contracts.

And we don't need a 29-32 year old "key piece" next to a couple guys who are 19-22.

[MrPerfect1]

Thank you for the history lesson.

Still won't convince me it's a good idea to sign a 29 year old guy to go with our 20 year old core as a good idea.

There is no universe in which every key member of an NBA team is the same age. Free agents are signed to four year contracts.

Except for the Thunder where they are all 24-25

[skones]

Thank you for the history lesson.

Still won't convince me it's a good idea to sign a 29 year old guy to go with our 20 year old core as a good idea.

I still need convincing that signing a complimentary piece to our "core" without actually knowing what we have in our "core" for max dollars is a good idea. Does anyone really think Bledsoe is going to be a superstar here?

Everyone here wanted the ball in Giannis's hands more last season to help coax along his development. Putting the ball in Bledsoe's hands isn't conducive to that. Bledsoe isn't going to be the one that makes or break our franchise. Parker and Giannis will, and they need to be given every opportunity to do that.

[sherm]

Some of you guys have gotten so used to losing that all you ever want is more and more draft picks.

We've been in the lottery 1 year...

I know, but all im hearing is, "if we add bledsoe we wont get a high pick." Getting a high pick AND that pick being a good/great player is not guaranteed. I feel adding Bledsoe along with Parker,giannis, ersan and sanders is a top 4 team in east and potential of continued growth.

[FlagsFlyForever]

There is no universe in which every key member of an NBA team is the same age. Free agents are signed to four year contracts.

And we don't need a 29-32 year old "key piece" next to a couple guys who are 19-22.

29-32 is not old.

[Chuck Diesel]

There is no universe in which every key member of an NBA team is the same age. Free agents are signed to four year contracts.

And we don't need a 29-32 year old "key piece" next to a couple guys who are 19-22.

By this logic Kareem was too old to be paired with Magic, David Robinson too old for Duncan, Shaq too old for D-Wade, Nash too old for Amare & John Stockton too old for Greg Ostertag.

[Baddy Chuck]

By this logic Kareem was too old to be paired with Magic, David Robinson too old for Duncan, Shaq too old for D-Wade, Nash too old for Amare & John Stockton too old for Greg Ostertag.

You almost got a serious response and then I read the whole thing.

[Chuck Diesel]

Thank you for the history lesson.

Still won't convince me it's a good idea to sign a 29 year old guy to go with our 20 year old core as a good idea.

I still need convincing that signing a complimentary piece to our "core" without actually knowing what we have in our "core" for max dollars is a good idea. Does anyone really think Bledsoe is going to be a superstar here?

Everyone here wanted the ball in Giannis's hands more last season to help coax along his development. Putting the ball in Bledsoe's hands isn't conducive to that. Bledsoe isn't going to be the one that makes or break our franchise. Parker and Giannis will, and they need to be given every opportunity to do that.

Agreed. I'm fine waiting multiple years with these two guys to see what we have without making a big move. Dragic was an example of a guy I would target after another year of losing enough to draft a top player next June. Could probably be talked into waiting a few more years, at which point I would be completely fine with signing a 29 year old who could help us.

[Baddy Chuck]

There is no universe in which every key member of an NBA team is the same age. Free agents are signed to four year contracts.

And we don't need a 29-32 year old "key piece" next to a couple guys who are 19-22.

29-32 is not old.

I'm not saying it is. I'm saying that adding a player like that when you aren't going to be a championship team is foolish, especially a good player who adds a substantial amount of wins.