MeloDrama Part VI

suicidedeuce · Post #2401 » by **suicidedeuce** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:36 pm

Red Vines wrote:Would it really hurt for Melo to release a statement just saying he's still deliberating, exploring different scenarios?

For what purpose.

Melo doesn't know or care you and are on RealGM waiting.

Nor should he.

ibraheim718 · Post #2402 » by **ibraheim718** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:36 pm

KnicksGod wrote:You don't need inside info to know the Bulls are not in strong position. You just need a calculator.

129
-75
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54

Not completely telling the whole story unless you think Melo is planning on retiring in 4 years if he signs with Chicago.

MKCATL · Post #2403 » by **MKCATL** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:36 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:

Man, it's over. Melo's gone baby gone. If he wanted to come back he would have already, We're obviously not his first choice. Pull the offer Phil.

navyblue · Post #2404 » by **navyblue** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:36 pm

suicidedeuce wrote:
Someone tell if me the Knicks have a 2016 first round draft pick.

Keep in mind Marc Gasol is 9 months younger than Melo and had ankle problems last year.

After that, tell me how much closer the NY Knicks are to a title?

2016 pick is with toronto.

thus, 2015 and 2017 picks cannot be traded.

Post #2405 » by **King of Canada** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:36 pm

Red Vines wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:
wth, did Kobe give him a hickey?

Yes, then he took it to the hole!

Moose · Post #2406 » by **Moose** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:37 pm

suicidedeuce wrote:
Moose wrote:
greenhughes wrote:This sounds exactly like the Gallo/Chandler debate when we said stars would love to play with them.
Well then...

So then let's never ever try to rebuild or create a proper plan? Let's keep overpaying for the Eddie curry's of the world. I guess no one is going to come to NY with Phil Jackson, max contract offers, and young talent.

We're doomed forever if Melo is S&T'd to the Bulls along with the great JR Smith.

Hyperbole is a last resort. Surely you know what.

Can you just acknowledge NOT having a 2016 draft pick is a major impediment to a rebuild through the draft plan.

Anyone confident should be able to answer than question directly without trying to qualify it with hyperbole.

This coming from the person who said we can't rebuild because we don't have a 2016 pick...but also says draft picks, the lottery pick of MCD, and young prospects like Mirotic are sh*t.

Really?

Rasho Brezec · Post #2407 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:37 pm

Abe_505 wrote:And you guys are crazy if you don't think Lebron is willing to only take less if that's what it takes to make room for Melo sans Bosh so projecting Brons max into Miami's ca space question is naive.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/486520754427920384[/tweet]

Pretty easy to work out. We just need Bosh to **** decide already so dominoes can start falling.

AmazingJason · Post #2408 » by **AmazingJason** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:37 pm

suicidedeuce wrote:
Moose wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
But that's the whole point. We know the options.

Someone post what Melo's max is with the raises. Then add all the salary together for next season. Let us know how much we can offer a Marc Gasol type, who is going to command a max contract. I can't remember the exact math, but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be close.

Keep in mind, Melo is 30 and had shoulder injuries the last 2 seasons.

After that, you tell me if this team is going to win a title.

If that S&T I mentioned is available (with JR going too), I take it all day.

Someone tell if me the Knicks have a 2016 first round draft pick.

Keep in mind Marc Gasol is 9 months younger than Melo and had ankle problems last year.

After that, tell me how much closer the NY Knicks are to a title?

Pretty close after surrounding Melo with all these winners:

Phil Jackson = self-explanatory
Derek Fisher = self-explanatory
Kurt Rambis = self-explanatory
Calderon = Silver Medal
M. Gasol = Silver Medeal
P. Gasol = NBA Champion
Odom = NBA Champion

Bill Pidto · Post #2409 » by **Bill Pidto** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:37 pm

Brooklyn_Yards wrote:
NYKCryptologist wrote:Carl2680
Car268l0

C=3 A = 1 R = 18

2+6+8 = 16

Start with the C. 16 - 3 = 13.

M = 13.

Take out the C, and remove the 2.

A+R = 19

6+8 = 14

19-14 = 5

5 = E

carmel0

This post. Your name. Sham just run me over with this thing on the next tour. I CAN'T anymore.

Post #2410 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:38 pm

Abe_505 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:You don't need inside info to know the Bulls are not in strong position. You just need a calculator.

129
-75
____
54

Not completely telling the whole story unless you think Melo is planning on retiring in 4 years if he signs with Chicago.

well yes, but assuming he gets nothing north of 20 million when he is 35 years old. He would be passing up north close to 35 million dollars.

DaGawd · Post #2411 » by **DaGawd** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:39 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:

ITS FKIN HAPPENING

suicidedeuce · Post #2412 » by **suicidedeuce** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:39 pm

Moose wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Moose wrote:

So then let's never ever try to rebuild or create a proper plan? Let's keep overpaying for the Eddie curry's of the world. I guess no one is going to come to NY with Phil Jackson, max contract offers, and young talent.

We're doomed forever if Melo is S&T'd to the Bulls along with the great JR Smith.

Hyperbole is a last resort. Surely you know what.

Can you just acknowledge NOT having a 2016 draft pick is a major impediment to a rebuild through the draft plan.

Anyone confident should be able to answer than question directly without trying to qualify it with hyperbole.

This coming from the person who said we can't rebuild because we don't have a 2016 pick...but also says draft picks, the lottery pick of MCD, and young prospects like Mirotic are sh*t.

Really?

You can't answer a fair, direct question and you now you're making things up?

Post #2413 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:39 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Abe_505 wrote:And you guys are crazy if you don't think Lebron is willing to only take less if that's what it takes to make room for Melo sans Bosh so projecting Brons max into Miami's ca space question is naive.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/486520754427920384[/tweet]

Pretty easy to work out. We just need Bosh to **** decide already so dominoes can start falling.

Not that easy to split 31M between Wade and Melo. If Wade were willing to cut his pay a lot, the Heat might've gotten a better free agent.

If Melo were willing to take 15M, he'd be ready to go to Chicago. But I doubt he is.

bfpri · Post #2414 » by **bfpri** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:39 pm

At this point Phil just needs to say **** off Melo, GL whereever you go, but we don't want your overpaid diva self in this organization.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #2415 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:39 pm

Red Vines wrote:Would it really hurt for Melo to release a statement just saying he's still deliberating, exploring different scenarios?

I agree. What's with this code of silence. Would it be possible Phil told them to make no statement if they are working on other deals that would be part of a re-signed Melo?

Red Vines · Post #2416 » by **Red Vines** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:39 pm

suicidedeuce wrote:
Red Vines wrote:Would it really hurt for Melo to release a statement just saying he's still deliberating, exploring different scenarios?

For what purpose.

Melo doesn't know or care you and are on RealGM waiting.

Nor should he.

Fans and teams waiting on his decision dont matter to him? We shouldn't re-sign this sociopath then.

nyknicks8016 · Post #2417 » by **nyknicks8016** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:40 pm

Just start a new thread nothing is happening anyway....we will go through 3 or 4 more threads before any decision is made...

kane · Post #2418 » by **kane** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:40 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:
kane wrote:can someone please tell me why ESPN keeps asking "if melo wants to win where should he go?" and then they say the bulls like is some rhetorical question? and they never address the fact that rose has not played a full season in over TWO YEARS, they just conveniently leave that part out.... and i just heard that charles barkley looking jemele hill say the LAKERS would give melo a better chance at winning then the knicks? HUH?

You're not used to this by now?

I wish I could look into an alternate dimension where we have rose and the bulls have amare " well at least am are can stay on the court"

Moose · Post #2419 » by **Moose** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:40 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Moose wrote:

Someone post what Melo's max is with the raises. Then add all the salary together for next season. Let us know how much we can offer a Marc Gasol type, who is going to command a max contract. I can't remember the exact math, but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be close.

Keep in mind, Melo is 30 and had shoulder injuries the last 2 seasons.

After that, you tell me if this team is going to win a title.

If that S&T I mentioned is available (with JR going too), I take it all day.

Someone tell if me the Knicks have a 2016 first round draft pick.

Keep in mind Marc Gasol is 9 months younger than Melo and had ankle problems last year.

After that, tell me how much closer the NY Knicks are to a title?

Pretty close after surrounding Melo with all these winners:

Phil Jackson = self-explanatory
Derek Fisher = self-explanatory
Kurt Rambis = self-explanatory
Calderon = Silver Medal
M. Gasol = Silver Medeal
P. Gasol = NBA Champion
Odom = NBA Champion

So apparently we have unlimited cap space? This plan works if Melo takes a paycut. Our discussion revolves around him taking the max with raises.

MKCATL · Post #2420 » by **MKCATL** » Tue Jul 8, 2014 4:40 pm

You really have to wonder if a S&T is trying to be worked out at the moment. Moving Amare to aquire Boozer so we don't go into luxury tax?