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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#141 » by Trader_Joe » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:44 pm

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Rili67 wrote:Part of me hopes he leaves because I'd love to see the "heat fans" go into a tizzy.

The other half of me hopes he stays, because that Miami team is doing nothing but getting older, and worse.

I don't really want to deal with a lebron on a young cavs team either. I think the cavs team is far superior to what the heat would have next year, especially if they went out and got Love.

Why would you care? The Bulls are losing either way.


Miami fans are so petty about a team that just lost by the highest amount of difference in NBA finals.

Wow.. I didn't know that.
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#142 » by Gus McCrae » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:46 pm

he's going back to the Heat
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Post#143 » by The_Toro » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:47 pm

Gus McCrae wrote:he's going back to the Heat



My guess is the Cavs or Knicks
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#144 » by jayjaypimpson » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:48 pm

criteriado wrote:Heat should dump Wade and sign Lebron and anothe really good player and stop this nonsense. With 33 year old Wade on a 4/50 deal, Lebron is going to fail miserably.



that's the best part, honestly; If Lebron stays in Miami, that team is only going to get worse, like Wade's knee's


and the situation in Cleveland is only going to get better, with or without LeBron James on the roster
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#145 » by PaulieWal » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:49 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:So why did he take a paycut for Miami years ago, but is asking his hometown and original team to make sure they have the most money possible ready for him? If he would take $15m like he did for Miami, Cleveland wouldn't have to use assets to move Jack or if they did they would have another $6 or $7m to spend.

* I wouldn't complain either way if I were a Cavs fan.. just seems odd to me. Money didn't matter then, now it does it seems.


By taking a pay-cut back in 2010 he already lowered his current possible max. If he takes another pay-cut (which I wouldn't mind because that would help Miami field better pieces) means he is again reducing his next max. Then there is also the element about the best player in the game not making the max or not being the highest paid player on his team(s) ever. It's not just about leaving some money on the table, if he never maxes out he is leaving tens of millions of dollars on the table throughout his playing career. I still actually believe if Riley comes to him and says that some player Miami really wants is available and they need more room for him, I could see him taking another slight pay-cut.
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#146 » by Rili67 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:50 pm

jayjaypimpson wrote:
criteriado wrote:Heat should dump Wade and sign Lebron and anothe really good player and stop this nonsense. With 33 year old Wade on a 4/50 deal, Lebron is going to fail miserably.



that's the best part, honestly; If Lebron stays in Miami, that team is only going to get worse, like Wade's knee's


and the situation in Cleveland is only going to get better, with or without LeBron James on the roster


My man. Preaching the truth.

The heat fans still think the heat are the "team to beat" though. Lol...
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#147 » by HeartSouloma » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:51 pm

criteriado wrote:
KDfan35 wrote:Irving / Dellevedova
Wiggins / Waiters/Karasev
LBJ/ FA
Thompson / Bennett/FA
Varejao / Zeller/FA

:D


Why do we think Wiggins is a 2? Seems like when OKC thought that KD was a 2.


He can guard 1-3 positions. That's why I place him @ the 2
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#148 » by OhMyBosh » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:52 pm

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addygrace wrote:I don't think LeBron's leaving Miami. Pat Riley is a genius and he builds nothing but Title teams.
Except for the 90's, 9 years in the 2000's, and half of this current decade Riles has dominated the
NBA. He's putting the finishing touches on the team that will take down the Spurs. He's got Granger
And McRoberts. LeBron and his 2 buddies are gonna stay in Miami. I'll repost this when they sign.

So hard to say.

Signing McRoberts and Granger makes it seem as though they know everyone is coming back since they are paying them out of the MLE and BAE and not cap space. If they were worried that LBJ and/or Bosh were leaving, wouldn't they keep their cap space open?

I'm in the minority and actually like those signings a lot.
McRoberts could be their version of Diaw while Granger is low risk/medium-high reward signing.

Chalmers / Nole / Nappier
Wade / Allen
LBJ / Granger
McRoberts / Haslem
Bosh / Andersen

vs.

Irving / Dellevedova
Waiters / Karasev
Wiggins /
LBJ / Thompson / Bennett
Varejao / Zeller

More potential in Cleveland, but a better immediate shot at a title in Miami IMO, though Cleveland could clearly make more moves and has more assets.


This is under the assumption that there are no ring chasers joining LeBron. Ray Allen already said he's going where LeBron goes.

Cleveland can just as easily stockpile veteran role players to fill out the roster once LeBron commits.
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Post#149 » by zeroproblems » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:53 pm

Rili67 wrote:
jayjaypimpson wrote:
criteriado wrote:Heat should dump Wade and sign Lebron and anothe really good player and stop this nonsense. With 33 year old Wade on a 4/50 deal, Lebron is going to fail miserably.



that's the best part, honestly; If Lebron stays in Miami, that team is only going to get worse, like Wade's knee's


and the situation in Cleveland is only going to get better, with or without LeBron James on the roster


My man. Preaching the truth.

The heat fans still think the heat are the "team to beat" though. Lol...


What team in the East will the Heat be scared off? Or to be exact what team will stop the Heat from getting to the finals for a 5th straight time?
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#150 » by fast-break » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:53 pm

Rili67 wrote:
jayjaypimpson wrote:
criteriado wrote:Heat should dump Wade and sign Lebron and anothe really good player and stop this nonsense. With 33 year old Wade on a 4/50 deal, Lebron is going to fail miserably.



that's the best part, honestly; If Lebron stays in Miami, that team is only going to get worse, like Wade's knee's


and the situation in Cleveland is only going to get better, with or without LeBron James on the roster


My man. Preaching the truth.

The heat fans still think the heat are the "team to beat" though. Lol...

They are in the East at least. Indy will lose Stephenson and The Bulls aren't getting Melo...so who does that leave to really challenge them?
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Post#151 » by RSCD3_ » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:58 pm

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Post#152 » by ARISE_CHICKEN » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:58 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Amico-@SamAmicoFSO: Cavs have had back and forth with LeBron's camp, more than what's been reported, I'm told. But source says he thinks LBJ leaning toward Heat


All the signs are there. Partying with Wade last night. Meeting Riley in a few hours.

Cleveland insiders getting word he's leaning toward the Heat.

Its done already imo.


lol, as predicted by many, as soon as Lebron becomes physically closer to Miami Heat players and representatives, he is all of a sudden leaning Miami

It's amazing how fickle people think these decisions are. lebron won't come back unless the Heat draft a backup point guard! Lebron won't come back because his agent prefers Cleveland! Lebron's going to Cleveland because he wants to mentor a 19 year old in his prime! Lebron will be back because Dan Gilbert wrote a comic sans letter! Lebron will be back because fans burned his jersey!
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#153 » by contract » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:58 pm

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Rili67 wrote:Part of me hopes he leaves because I'd love to see the "heat fans" go into a tizzy.

The other half of me hopes he stays, because that Miami team is doing nothing but getting older, and worse.

I don't really want to deal with a lebron on a young cavs team either. I think the cavs team is far superior to what the heat would have next year, especially if they went out and got Love.

Why would you care? The Bulls are losing either way.


Miami fans are so petty about a team that just lost by the highest amount of difference in NBA finals.

Yes the Spurs just hammered us ... but the T'wolves didn't. Why are you talking? :lol:
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#154 » by crazy_me_87 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 5:59 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Amico-@SamAmicoFSO: Cavs have had back and forth with LeBron's camp, more than what's been reported, I'm told. But source says he thinks LBJ leaning toward Heat


All the signs are there. Partying with Wade last night. Meeting Riley in a few hours.

Cleveland insiders getting word he's leaning toward the Heat.

Its done already imo.


no its not.. you can get just as many "sources" saying he goes to the cavs...

its a complete wash...

you can spin it either way.. it could be a "goodbye,last time" Party and Diner with Wade.. and the meeting with Riles could be to say thank you and Goodbye..

see, nothings there to get a clue..

nothings safe yet
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#155 » by Def Swami » Tue Jul 8, 2014 6:00 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Amico-@SamAmicoFSO: Cavs have had back and forth with LeBron's camp, more than what's been reported, I'm told. But source says he thinks LBJ leaning toward Heat


All the signs are there. Partying with Wade last night. Meeting Riley in a few hours.

Cleveland insiders getting word he's leaning toward the Heat.

Its done already imo.

While I tend to agree, from my experience, Sam Amico is not the guy to follow for rumors or insider information.
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#156 » by ARISE_CHICKEN » Tue Jul 8, 2014 6:00 pm

Question for anyone who thinks Cleveland is a better basketball situation than Miami. If basketball reasons are what matters, why not sign in Houston for the same amount and play with actual stars in their prime rather than wait 2 years for Wiggins to be good? He's going to get the same contract in Houston or Cleveland and the Rockets are a far better situation for him.
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#157 » by criteriado » Tue Jul 8, 2014 6:02 pm

contract wrote:
criteriado wrote:
contract wrote:Why would you care? The Bulls are losing either way.


Miami fans are so petty about a team that just lost by the highest amount of difference in NBA finals.

Yes the Spurs just hammered us ... but the T'wolves didn't. Why are you talking? :lol:


I didn't know that I couldn't talk about the Heat because I'm a twolves fan. Great to know.
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Post#158 » by Sdot thadon » Tue Jul 8, 2014 6:04 pm

This is great, literally swings the other way every few hours.....
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#159 » by criteriado » Tue Jul 8, 2014 6:05 pm

ARISE_CHICKEN wrote:Question for anyone who thinks Cleveland is a better basketball situation than Miami. If basketball reasons are what matters, why not sign in Houston for the same amount and play with actual stars in their prime rather than wait 2 years for Wiggins to be good? He's going to get the same contract in Houston or Cleveland and the Rockets are a far better situation for him.


He'd take a massive PR hit if he leaves Miami to go to another team that's not Cleveland, even though it's a much better option for him. And Miami still is on the Eastern Conference so..He still has an easy path to the Conference finals. The West is a dogfight.
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Re: "Get Prepared and Be Ready"-LeBron 

Post#160 » by Sisqo » Tue Jul 8, 2014 6:11 pm

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Sisqo wrote:Well I have no doubt that he will take the easy route here so he will end up wherever he thinks it will be easiest for him and has nothing to do with loyalty.


Returning has everything to do with loyalty (to the team he spent so many years growing up on and then spurned in spectacular fashion).

He's gone on record saying he regrets the way he announced his decision, at the very least he should have clued in the Cavs FO beforehand if he was going ahead with a televised ego trip.

The Heat RIGHT NOW have the better team to compliment LeBron than the Cavs (players familiar with his style, veterans, shooters, leadership, defensive mentality, established coaching, etc). LeBron going back home doesn't mean an easy trip to the finals. Very young, with little/no playoff experience, ball dominant volume scorers, and an NBA untested coach at the helm. LeBron would be taking a risk for the future


That's a matter of opinion. Maybe it is loyalty or maybe its because he thinks its the easiest way to a another championship. Either way I think that would be his motivation no matter what he chooses.

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