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Post#1921 » by ampd » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:26 pm

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ampd wrote:We need to unload a PF somehow if Jabari is going to play the 4. Ersan or Henson for McLemore would be pretty ideal, although it would probably require other parts.

Orlando's looking to get better in a hurry. They just acquired Fournier. Arsen and Henson gives them another stretch big who, coupled with Frye, can keep their offense spread all game, and Henson can be their Vucevic back-up.

I say this, because I'd rather have Fournier than McLemore 97 times out of 100.


That works for me too. I was under the impression the Magic had a similar problem at their forward spots though.
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Post#1922 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:27 pm

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I'd rather have Lin+#25 than nothing. We could still trade Lin during the season/deadline. Come draft time, everyone would be happy to have an additional 1st round pick. If we make some other moves that workout for us, great. I'm just disappointed we didn't make an effort to an acquire a pretty easy 1st round round pick.


Well you're not the one paying 15 million for that pick........


Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


The new CBA is a little bit different, but you can buy a pick late in the 1st for like 4-5 million usually, right? Wasn't that what Phoenix always used to sell them for?
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1923 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:30 pm

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Well you're not the one paying 15 million for that pick........


Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


The new CBA is a little bit different, but you can buy a pick late in the 1st for like 4-5 million usually, right? Wasn't that what Phoenix always used to sell them for?


That doesn't seem to be as common any more. I don't think any were sold this year? I'm all for it though. I want as many 1st round picks (and other young assets) as possible. I don't care how we get them.
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Post#1924 » by cinematographer » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:34 pm

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ampd wrote:We need to unload a PF somehow if Jabari is going to play the 4. Ersan or Henson for McLemore would be pretty ideal, although it would probably require other parts.

Orlando's looking to get better in a hurry. They just acquired Fournier. Arsen and Henson gives them another stretch big who, coupled with Frye, can keep their offense spread all game, and Henson can be their Vucevic back-up.

I say this, because I'd rather have Fournier than McLemore 97 times out of 100.


That works for me too. I was under the impression the Magic had a similar problem at their forward spots though.

Yeah, even if Gordon plays the 3 they have a jam. Maybe they'd be seduced by the surplus value and find a third team for one of the pieces.

I just don't want McLemore. If we can flip him to a team that loves him, great, but... ugh. He was horribad last year and there's nothing between his ears.
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Post#1925 » by worthlessBucks » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:34 pm

Sanders is ready to fight through adversity because it's bound to happen. Haha.
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Post#1926 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:35 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
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Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


The new CBA is a little bit different, but you can buy a pick late in the 1st for like 4-5 million usually, right? Wasn't that what Phoenix always used to sell them for?


That doesn't seem to be as common any more. I don't think any were sold this year? I'm all for it though. I want as many 1st round picks (and other young assets) as possible. I don't care how we get them.


$15 million and extra wins is a high cost for that. Lin probably brings in extra wins and costs you a few slots if you wanted to get one more year in the mid-late lotto with the new core.

I'm all for extra assets and not opposed to an extra 1st, but for $15 million I'd assume even billionaires aren't too interested in that.

Just picking a random recent draft, here's 2011. There's a few nice players like Reggie Jackson in the 20-32 range, but it's not like it's something worth dropping $15 million for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft
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Post#1927 » by cinematographer » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:35 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


The new CBA is a little bit different, but you can buy a pick late in the 1st for like 4-5 million usually, right? Wasn't that what Phoenix always used to sell them for?


That doesn't seem to be as common any more. I don't think any were sold this year? I'm all for it though. I want as many 1st round picks (and other young assets) as possible. I don't care how we get them.

Can only use $3m cash each year now.
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Post#1928 » by SkilesTheLimit » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:36 pm

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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1929 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:37 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:$15 million and extra wins is a high cost for that. Lin probably brings in extra wins and costs you a few slots if you wanted to get one more year in the mid-late lotto with the new core.

I'm all for extra assets and not opposed to an extra 1st, but for $15 million I'd assume even billionaires aren't too interested in that.

Just picking a random recent draft, here's 2011. There's a few nice players like Reggie Jackson in the 20-32 range, but it's not like it's something worth dropping $15 million for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft


I just don't think we are anywhere near a playoff team, with or without Lin. Not even LeBron could get the Cavs to the playoffs in his first season. I don't think we are winning a whole lot with our two best players being 19 years old to start the season. So adding Lin to the roster doesn't really scare me enough to pass on that deal.

That deal is over with though, so I'm moving on. Hopefully Hambone has something cooking which is why he lost all interest in the Lin+1st deal.
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Post#1930 » by Johnlac1 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:39 pm

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Says you. I think there is a very good chance that we do.


I highly doubt it unless we tear down a bit or lightening strikes twice for us. I look forward to visiting this topic later on in the year.


Who are the teams that will be worse than us besides PHI?

The Bucks (cross your fingers as far as injuries) have a very good chance to double their win total from last year. Parker gives them a legitimate 18-20 ppg threat even as a rookie. Of course, a lot of that is because he will be given the opportunity to take a lot of shots.

But Parker and the further development of other young players gives the Bucks a team that can score pts. .....which was a huge weakness last year. Knight averaged about 18. Henson was averaging about 13 ppg most of the season before injuries. He's still capable of scoring 15-17 per. Ilysasova is still an excellent three ball shooter. Middleton can score. Sanders can score more. Sessions can score, but I'd like him gone. Wolters will be a better scorer although he will not be needed for that. Giannis's development on both ends of the floor should be substantially better year by year for at least three more years. I'd like to acquire a decent big sg who can play some defense. But as it stands the team, while not playoff worthy, should be substantially better. Of course, considering how bad they were last season, any improvement will look great.
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Post#1931 » by htr » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:40 pm

I'd still be down for Ersan and Mayo for Eric Gordon. Their GM Seems to be in trade mode. Maybe he will even pick up the phone and call our GM!
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1932 » by skones » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:41 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
skones wrote:
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
I'd rather have Lin+#25 than nothing. We could still trade Lin during the season/deadline. Come draft time, everyone would be happy to have an additional 1st round pick. If we make some other moves that workout for us, great. I'm just disappointed we didn't make an effort to an acquire a pretty easy 1st round round pick.


Well you're not the one paying 15 million for that pick........


Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


Do you think they're billionaires because they're careless with their money? 15 Million Dollars is still 15 Million Dollars any way you slice it. It doesn't matter how much they have. It's just a poor monetary investment given the potential payoff down the line. It's unlikely the pick ever becomes worth that.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1933 » by MrPerfect1 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:41 pm

Johnlac1 wrote:
MrPerfect1 wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:
I highly doubt it unless we tear down a bit or lightening strikes twice for us. I look forward to visiting this topic later on in the year.


Who are the teams that will be worse than us besides PHI?

The Bucks (cross your fingers as far as injuries) have a very good chance to double their win total from last year. Parker gives them a legitimate 18-20 ppg threat even as a rookie. Of course, a lot of that is because he will be given the opportunity to take a lot of shots.

But Parker and the further development of other young players gives the Bucks a team that can score pts. .....which was a huge weakness last year. Knight averaged about 18. Henson was averaging about 13 ppg most of the season before injuries. He's still capable of scoring 15-17 per. Ilysasova is still an excellent three ball shooter. Middleton can score. Sanders can score more. Sessions can score, but I'd like him gone. Wolters will be a better scorer although he will not be needed for that. Giannis's development on both ends of the floor should be substantially better year by year for at least three more years. I'd like to acquire a decent big sg who can play some defense. But as it stands the team, while not playoff worthy, should be substantially better. Of course, considering how bad they were last season, any improvement will look great.


In order for us to Win 30 Games, we would have to Pass numerous teams in the Standings. Who are those teams?
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Post#1934 » by EastSideBucksFan » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:42 pm

htr wrote:I'd still be down for Ersan and Mayo for Eric Gordon. Their GM Seems to be in trade mode. Maybe he will even pick up the phone and call our GM!



That's awful man.

Eric Gordon does nothing for this team.

Honestly rather keep OJ Mayo.
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Post#1935 » by Flap Jackson » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:46 pm

rioeire wrote:Thanks god lin is not coming here



I agree. I like Lin's game but I don't think he is a fit for this roster. I am not the biggest Knight fan but he is only 22 and I think Wolters can probably develop to be as good as Lin in a relatively short time period. Lin would be a minutes log jam with no purpose.
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Post#1936 » by dedned » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:47 pm

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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
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Well you're not the one paying 15 million for that pick........


Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


The new CBA is a little bit different, but you can buy a pick late in the 1st for like 4-5 million usually, right? Wasn't that what Phoenix always used to sell them for?

It's a little over 3 mil.
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Post#1937 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:47 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:$15 million and extra wins is a high cost for that. Lin probably brings in extra wins and costs you a few slots if you wanted to get one more year in the mid-late lotto with the new core.

I'm all for extra assets and not opposed to an extra 1st, but for $15 million I'd assume even billionaires aren't too interested in that.

Just picking a random recent draft, here's 2011. There's a few nice players like Reggie Jackson in the 20-32 range, but it's not like it's something worth dropping $15 million for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft


I just don't think we are anywhere near a playoff team, with or without Lin. Not even LeBron could get the Cavs to the playoffs in his first season. I don't think we are winning a whole lot with our two best players being 19 years old to start the season. So adding Lin to the roster doesn't really scare me enough to pass on that deal.

That deal is over with though, so I'm moving on. Hopefully Hambone has something cooking which is why he lost all interest in the Lin+1st deal.


The East sucks so it's possible, but even with that, I'd take other avenues to getting late 1sts. I would have been on board getting it in this trade, but I'm not going to scoff at them not trumping that offer to get it themselves.

Hell, it may even say something when Mr. Pick Hoarder himself in Philly didn't end up winning the bid.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin/Bledsoe (Vasquez signs w/ TOR) 

Post#1938 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:51 pm

skones wrote:
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
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Well you're not the one paying 15 million for that pick........


Luckily we have two billionaire owners now; not one middling millionaire.


Do you think they're billionaires because they're careless with their money? 15 Million Dollars is still 15 Million Dollars any way you slice it. It doesn't matter how much they have. It's just a poor monetary investment given the potential payoff down the line. It's unlikely the pick ever becomes worth that.


I don't think they are that concerned with a player's cap number for one year, as long as long as they aren't in the luxury tax. I also think this is a toy for them. They have said they want to build through the draft so it seems like adding 1st round picks could be attractive to them.

I'm done discussing this though, it's pointless now that Lin is off the market.
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Post#1939 » by SkilesTheLimit » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:52 pm

Hopefully LeBron to Cavs solidifies our owners' plan to rebuild the right way through the draft for 3-5 years. No way in hell any FA's we sign bring us close to competing now. Stay the course. Bucks fans should all hope that Kidd "gets it" and buys in too because sooner rather than later he's going to be pulling all the strings with personnel.
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Post#1940 » by [MIKE C] » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:54 pm

I saw the thread title was updated to "Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably." Has there been any recent news linking the Bucks to Bledsoe? The last report about the Bucks preparing an offer for Bledsoe was from July 5th, wasn't it? It must take Hammond a long ass time to dot the i's and cross the t's.

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