Miami Heat Off-season thread 12.0 Roll over and die? Never!

Myam333 · Post #861 » by **Myam333** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:11 am

Cavaliers interested in Troy Daniels lmao

I hope they get his one dimensional ass.

HEATVols865 · Post #862 » by **HEATVols865** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 am

Time to rally behind this team guys...am I the only one who thinks Riley threw some venom out there on his statement with the we've done it before and we'll do it again? Almost sounds like he will stick around to rebuild this just to piss off LeBron and stop him. LOL

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Rock Hardy · Post #863 » by **Rock Hardy** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 am

heatlespeatles wrote:
fsuizzy wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:Bosh loves Miami - its his style and his wife's

Lebron's roots are deeper in Ohio

I am not sure why we aren't grabbing Lance, he is young. And I feel we can easily train him not to blow in other players ears.

pretty much lol I really cant even think of anyone else at the moment. Maybe i need a day or two

Do we have enough for Lance and Ariza? I feel like getting greedy again. I feel Wade is going to have a great season next year.

WD · Post #864 » by WD » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:Guys the Suns just traded for Isaiah Thomas, AND they have dragic also.

Im telling you Bledsoe might be attainable if we throw the max at him. We need to take the risk it's an overpay and get him.

I logged back on to ask one simple question. what's the fascination with a 4 yr 6.1 185 guard WITH a qualifying offer from his current team?

If we play the same way, wouldn't he be just like Cole? If we changed our offense a little and let guys ACTUALLY PLAY, would cole/napier(4 yr college player) be more cost effective?

Again, what's the fascination, what am I missing with this guy?

heatlespeatles · Post #865 » by **heatlespeatles** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 am

An0nym1ty wrote:
Enso wrote:
MiaFLSurf wrote:I'm still bitter. Ain't lying. He did us dirty. And knew he'd be looked at as an emotional hero and leave the hate behind.

The whore of Akron. Right?

If he delivers on just one chip with cleveland he'll cement his brand forever. He'll be the second coming of christ to them for years and years and years. They'll be buying Lebron kicks and gear for generations to come. Smart business move by him. Once he wins he becomes their God lol

Honestly, I just started to wonder a little while ago if the news of Jordan becoming a billionaire a little while back had something to do with this. Jordan reached that status by retiring not just as the GOAT, but as an adored, revered, deified GOAT. I wonder if LeBron and his people started to think that with the vitriol he attracted down here, he might be recognized for his legendary skills, but he'd never have the same level of post-career marketability and compared that to Jordan.

Honestly, to us as fans we think about the team first, but imagine if you were at one job that was going well and all that, but another one came along guaranteeing you lifetime profitability and godlike status in your field. To these guys it's life. When LeBron came down here four years ago, he was thinking the same thing. He was thinking that if he stayed in Cleveland and never won some rings, he'd have Jordan talent, but a Barkley or Ewing-esque legacy and post-career life. We were his ticket to the upper echelon. I just don't think he or his people, back then four years younger and never having gone through something like this, even remotely anticipated the backlash that was going to come with it.

it doesn't matter, he could have went back 2 years from now. They would have loved him all the same.

He went now, because he didnt want people to think he was going to SEE how Wiggins and the new coach would turn out etc. He had to go now because all of it lined up to happen now. Maybe the money wouldn't have worked later. His heart was there. That is all

Myam333 · Post #866 » by **Myam333** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 am

Mugiwara wrote:
UDWade wrote:Is it too late to be like: "hey bosh, ol buddy ol pal, would you mind maybe taking 18 mil a year? Or maybe 17? Whaddya say?"

They panicked and gave the max.

Yes, I know, but I was asking if it's too late to ask if he'd be willing to drop a few mil a year, you know for the squad.

RexBoyWonder · Post #867 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:12 am

Funny thing im feeling - Im already warming up to Durant.

Hoping he gets finals MVP next year 8-)

heatlespeatles · Post #868 » by **heatlespeatles** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:14 am

Rock Hardy wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
fsuizzy wrote:

I am not sure why we aren't grabbing Lance, he is young. And I feel we can easily train him not to blow in other players ears.

pretty much lol I really cant even think of anyone else at the moment. Maybe i need a day or two

Do we have enough for Lance and Ariza? I feel like getting greedy again. I feel Wade is going to have a great season next year.

thinking of it now. I wanted Lance when Lebron was here, not sure about now. Not sure he has the discipline

Post #869 » by **IggieCC** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:14 am

HeatNation88 wrote:Guys were aren't getting Bledsoe move on

The guy who's clapping in your avatar.. he's no longer with us you know?

... still in denial I see 8-)

Mugiwara · Post #870 » by **Mugiwara** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:14 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:Funny thing im feeling - Im already warming up to Durant.

Hoping he gets finals MVP next year

Ahahahahah me too.

LikeABosh · Post #871 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:15 am

WD wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:Guys the Suns just traded for Isaiah Thomas, AND they have dragic also.

Im telling you Bledsoe might be attainable if we throw the max at him. We need to take the risk it's an overpay and get him.

I logged back on to ask one simple question. what's the fascination with a 4 yr 6.1 185 guard WITH a qualifying offer from his current team?

If we play the same way, wouldn't he be just like Cole? If we changed our offense a little and let guys ACTUALLY PLAY, would cole/napier(4 yr college player) be more cost effective?

Again, what's the fascination, what am I missing with this guy?

Bledsoe is called a mini Lebron for a reason. So, no, he wouldn't be just like Cole

Myam333 · Post #872 » by **Myam333** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:15 am

**** man

Why couldn't the Spurs give up after last year's loss like LeBron did this year? We could have 3-peated. ugh

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #873 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:15 am

LEIF wrote:How I reacted to The Decision.

When I heard the news I was in shocked, lost my appetite mid lunch...got 17 text messages in 10 minutes haha(maybe a clue I have too much of my identity attached to a sports team ya think?) .....Felt disappointed but I had been preparing myself for a week now. Too much smoke for no fire man...

Next, I heard Bosh was going to Houston, Bulls were gauging interest in Wade, I thought the worst. I thought about a 69 year old Pat Riley having all 3 of his STARS leave the franchise on the same day, with minimal assets in terms of draft picks and why the heck is he going to go through another rebuild.. and I thought....oh my God the Riley era might be over. I sat in my office for 2 hours or so and felt kinda dead inside. so deflated, drained and feeling hopeless. Riles always said.. " their is winning and their is misery" we didn't lose a game today, we lost more. I thought here comes misery....thought back to when Lewis Schaffel was running things and the days where a playoff home game seemed like such an accomplishment. Now if we don't have 3 superstars we are disappointed. Those 90s Riley coached Heat teams would have KILLED for 3 superstars. Always felt we were a 3rd banana short when the ish hit the fan come playoff crunch time back then....I found perspective, but impending mass change felt awful.

Then I heard Bosh resigned, some say we overpaid but I think in our position, I disagree. That deal means more to me than that money. Bosh committed to being here, he also is in the prime of his career, trust me... if you ask Bosh for more he can give it to you. 22/9 is coming. Don't get me wrong..he isn't going to lead a team to a title on his back but in THIS East who the hell knows..then I heard Wade & UD will be back and both are positioning contracts to provide flexibility.

Then..it hit me.....

I was reminded of what this was about before the circus arrived...before ESPN had a damn Heat Index, (OT: can you believe WE had an Index on ESPN!).. I owned the Champion brand size 36 to 42 jerseys of Seikaly, HMiner(both #4 & #32), SSmith, GRice(black and white), Timmie, Zo, PJ Brown and wore them with a whole lot of people seeing some of those names and asking "Who is that?"......We made it. That matters.

Riley will make another few moves that make us a legit Eastern Conference Playoff team, a little luck, a deadline trade, who knows what else...you can get to a ECF or hell if we have the Ray Allen Game 6 shot in our blood maybe even farther...again, I am not thinking championship or bust now. This is about sustained, consistent ability to put a winning product on the floor. We have that.

Everything is going to be just fine, I love Lebron James as a member of the Heat and I feel grateful I got to root for the greatest athlete on Earth for 4 years in MY childhood favorite team's uniform.

But life goes on, and we will be back. We proved it before and we will again. Just like the last sentence of the Pat Riley statement today.

We have Dwyane Wade to thank.

The day we drafted him, the franchise turned around. Before that..... we had a black cloud over us. Misery, disappointment. I remember. It sucked man.

Wade is responsible for all this. I love Riles, but this is more about Wade. Shaq doesn't come without Wade. Which means no 2006. And heck, if Wade doesn't go beast mode, no 2006. Then Wade being Wade, lured LBJ and Bosh.

he is everything to this franchise, man. Statue outside AAA as soon as he retires.

WD · Post #874 » by WD » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:15 am

QueenOfFairies wrote:Time to rally behind this team guys...am I the only one who thinks Riley threw some venom out there on his statement with the we've done it before and we'll do it again? Almost sounds like he will stick around to rebuild this just to piss off LeBron and stop him. LOL

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After 45 yrs in the business and having coached legends/HOF'ers, MVPS, etc. do you really think he has to try and piss off LBJ....

LBJ wanted to go home......PERIOD...

MIA · Post #875 » by **MIA** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:16 am

UDWade wrote:
Mugiwara wrote:
UDWade wrote:Is it too late to be like: "hey bosh, ol buddy ol pal, would you mind maybe taking 18 mil a year? Or maybe 17? Whaddya say?"

They panicked and gave the max.

Yes, I know, but I was asking if it's too late to ask if he'd be willing to drop a few mil a year, you know for the squad.

no way, hed get offended an go to HOU lol

Post #876 » by **IggieCC** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:16 am

WD wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:Guys the Suns just traded for Isaiah Thomas, AND they have dragic also.

Im telling you Bledsoe might be attainable if we throw the max at him. We need to take the risk it's an overpay and get him.

I logged back on to ask one simple question. what's the fascination with a 4 yr 6.1 185 guard WITH a qualifying offer from his current team?

If we play the same way, wouldn't he be just like Cole? If we changed our offense a little and let guys ACTUALLY PLAY, would cole/napier(4 yr college player) be more cost effective?

Again, what's the fascination, what am I missing with this guy?

Better than Cole Nappier combined but NOT WORTH MAX AT ALL IMO. Yikes.

WD · Post #877 » by WD » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:16 am

LikeABosh wrote:
WD wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:Guys the Suns just traded for Isaiah Thomas, AND they have dragic also.

Im telling you Bledsoe might be attainable if we throw the max at him. We need to take the risk it's an overpay and get him.

I logged back on to ask one simple question. what's the fascination with a 4 yr 6.1 185 guard WITH a qualifying offer from his current team?

If we play the same way, wouldn't he be just like Cole? If we changed our offense a little and let guys ACTUALLY PLAY, would cole/napier(4 yr college player) be more cost effective?

Again, what's the fascination, what am I missing with this guy?

Bledsoe is called a mini Lebron for a reason. So, no, he wouldn't be just like Cole

I KNOW, BUT we can't get him.......IMO - ok, I surrender.....

MiaFLSurf · Post #878 » by **MiaFLSurf** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:17 am

heatlespeatles wrote:
MiaFLSurf wrote:I'm still bitter. Ain't lying. He did us dirty. And knew he'd be looked at as an emotional hero and leave the hate behind.

The whore of Akron. Right?

you aint gotta do all this. Be mad but don't have to be disrespectful. I know it hurts but it only hurts because we knew he was GREAT here

I don't own a team. I'm a paying customer. I can express my feelings on it.

He dropped us like a bad hat. He called OUR city his college. Basically a four year party for him.

I rep 305. We stood by him through the hate. Through Cleveland saying **** about his mother even.

Good for him. He loves his family. His boys. His town.

He **** on mine. He didn't thank miami at all except for a sentence or two. Didn't mention Spo once. Spo transformed him from a pick and roll player to an amazing full court and post monster.

He **** on my city. He left the hate for undying love from the world. And he did it in a calculated manner. Recruited behind our backs when we were trying for him.

Best physical player I've ever seen. I'd say more talented than Jordan and I mean it.

But no one **** on my city.

Myam333 · Post #879 » by **Myam333** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:17 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
LEIF wrote:
Snip

We have Dwyane Wade to thank.

The day we drafted him, the franchise turned around. Before that..... we had a black cloud over us. Misery, disappointment. I remember. It sucked man.

Wade is responsible for all this. I love Riles, but this is more about Wade. Shaq doesn't come without Wade. Which means no 2006. And heck, if Wade doesn't go beast mode, no 2006. Then Wade being Wade, lured LBJ and Bosh.

he is everything to this franchise, man. Statue outside AAA as soon as he retires.

Dude's taking another paycut for this team. They need to begin construction right now.

HEATVols865 · Post #880 » by **HEATVols865** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:18 am

WD wrote:
QueenOfFairies wrote:Time to rally behind this team guys...am I the only one who thinks Riley threw some venom out there on his statement with the we've done it before and we'll do it again? Almost sounds like he will stick around to rebuild this just to piss off LeBron and stop him. LOL

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After 45 yrs in the business and having coached legends/HOF'ers, MVPS, etc. do you really think he has to try and piss off LBJ....

LBJ wanted to go home......PERIOD...

I'm not saying he's mad he went home...he's mad that they got blindsided and he's a competitor. Everyone saying he can't build a winning team without LeBron now...he's gonna prove people wrong

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