Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 4

[LyricalRico]

The Detroit Pistons and the Sacramento Kings have resumed trade discussions on a deal that could send Josh Smith to Sacramento, according to sources with knowledge of the talks.

Sources told ESPN.com the Kings have continued to express interest in Smith and the parties are on the hunt for a third team that could help facilitate the deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11226 ... trade-talk

Any interest? Maybe use the rest of the Ariza TPE (assuming we didn't use any of that to acquire Blair) to take on a player, and get a pick out of it?

[montestewart]

The Detroit Pistons and the Sacramento Kings have resumed trade discussions on a deal that could send Josh Smith to Sacramento, according to sources with knowledge of the talks.

Sources told ESPN.com the Kings have continued to express interest in Smith and the parties are on the hunt for a third team that could help facilitate the deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11226 ... trade-talk

Any interest? Maybe use the rest of the Ariza TPE (assuming we didn't use any of that to acquire Blair) to take on a player, and get a pick out of it?

Who's available in such a trade. Could use another shooter maybe, but how many on roster already? Birch looked good, is he making roster?

[montestewart]

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[pancakes3]

I have no idea what the Kings are thinking. Ray McCallum is their starting, backup, and 3rd string pg right now and are basically holding Jason Terry hostage after Terry is vocal about wanting to go back to the Mavs. They actually looked half decent before free agency struck and lost Isiah Thomas. Now they look to struggle to get to 20 wins.

[LyricalRico]

^ Sacto did sign Collison with their MLE, presumably to start at PG for them. But I agree that they haven't improved. Not to mention that they've spent their last two lottery picks on the same position (McLemore and Stuaskas).

Not counting Gay, they do have over $17M in expiring contracts that they could move. And now they have around a $7M TPE from the Thomas deal. So you would think they'd have options. Unfortunately, a huge part of the offseason has already passed them by.

If they're looking at PF help, a guy like Ilyasova that could space the floor would be better (and cheaper) than Josh Smith IMO.

[verbal8]

One thought on Ed Davis signing cheap with the Lakers, is that it makes him a valuable trade piece. If Randle performs well that is a very good start to a trade package for Kevin Love.

[LyricalRico]

Marc Stein: ESPN sources say Lakers have won the Carlos Boozer waiver auction today Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

Interesting. I'm assuming it's only a 1-year deal, so it doesn't really hinder Randle since he likely wouldn't be ready to start on Day One. I guess this also means that Ed Davis will be backing up Hill?

They still need a SF badly, unless they plan on playing Kobe and Young together. They can re-sign Henry and Johnson, but I don't see either of them as a starter. Any news on them being willing to trade Nash?

[LyricalRico]

The future of one of the most talented free agents left on the market remains cloudy, as Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns remain far apart in contract talks, according to sources close to the situation.

The Suns have offered Bledsoe a four-year, $48 million contract, but the point guard wants a maximum five-year, $80 million deal, league sources said.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11227 ... gotiations

[keynote]

^I'm sure the Suns want to keep Bledsoe, but bringing in Thomas has probably given them some extra leverage. I dunno if they want to trade him for the likes of Monroe, either.

[verbal8]

The future of one of the most talented free agents left on the market remains cloudy, as Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns remain far apart in contract talks, according to sources close to the situation.

The Suns have offered Bledsoe a four-year, $48 million contract, but the point guard wants a maximum five-year, $80 million deal, league sources said.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11227 ... gotiations

Given the free agent market this off-season, I think the end up with a near-max deal for the 1st year. However I think the Suns try to get some concession(s), especially if they give a 5th year. A declining deal would go all the way down to just over $11 million, with a larger cap - so at the very least they should be able to get that. I think the total value would work out to about $65 million.

[LyricalRico]

Latest on Bledsoe:

The problem for Bledsoe is there isn’t another team out there sitting on more than $11 million in space that is actively interested.

The Philadelphia 76ers are sitting on roughly $23 million in space but are not at all interested in Bledsoe. The Milwaukee Bucks are said to be more than interested however they have just over $11 million available to them and that’s not going to get it done straight up without a sign and trade deal, which sources close to the Bucks say is absolutely on the table on their side.

Read more at http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... 4tMTEJy.99

Maybe a Bledsoe S&T for Ilyasova+Knight?

[Rafael122]

I know contracts are suppose to go up, but regardless of how big the TV deal is, Bledsoe will never be worth $19 mil per year.Phoenix has his market just right, $80 million is absurd.

[pancakes3]

I don't know where Bledsoe gets off on that. His agent is giving him bad information. Eric Gordon showed more and only got 4 year 60.

[Induveca]

If I were Phoenix, I'd let Bledsoe walk. He's already missed a ton of games in his career.

Two knee surgeries (2011, 2014) at age 24? No thanks.

It's now obvious why they signed Isaiah Thomas. They likely realized Bledsoe wanted the max, they'll be absolutely fine without him.

[Kanyewest]

Bledsoe is represent by the same guy who represents LeBron, Rich Paul. This is the first major negotiation that Rich Paul has entered that hasn't been with LeBron James. He is trying to secure a good deal for his client so as to build up some reputation for his agency.

Still, Bledsoe isn't a max player at this point yet although his trajectory has him going that way. It has to be frustrating for him that guys like Gordon Hayward and Chandler Parsons are making more money than him. At the same time, Lance Stephenson also didn't get the better offers either.

Come to think of it, most teams already have a potential franchise point guard going forward. Other teams would rather save their cap space for Kevin Love or Kevin Durant. I would be surprised if Bledsoe gets a max offer from another team.

[closg00]

Sooo nobody tried to steal Monroe via contract-offer.


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[mhd]

I'll say this, I don't think Cleveland would want to face the Hornets in the playoffs. They have the defensive wings to really get after Lebron.

[LyricalRico]

Sooo nobody tried to steal Monroe via contract-offer.


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This is the only thing I've seen:

Sources said the Pistons also seriously discussed various sign-and-trade scenarios this month that would have landed restricted free agent Greg Monroe in Portland, but the Blazers ultimately pulled themselves out of the race for Monroe by signing free-agent big man Chris Kaman to join Robin Lopez in the Blazers' center rotation.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11226 ... trade-talk

Apparently the only teams that still have cap space are Philly and Milwaukee. The Sixers are tanking and the Bucks already have young bigs. Monroe basically has zero leverage at this point.

I wonder if Monroe would take his chances with the 1 year QO? Looks like it would be about $10.2M for him, and then he'd be unrestricted in 2015. And if Love (wherever he ends up) opts into the last year of his deal to become a FA in 2016 and take advantage of the new CBA, then Monroe would become the biggest fish in free agency next summer.

[bealwithit]

Kendall Marshall waived...

[Ruzious]

Kendall Marshall waived...

I took a lot of bleep for defending EG for his decision to let Marshall go.