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Post#201 » by CousinOfDeath » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:36 pm

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Post#202 » by WesleyExChiFan » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:44 pm

CousinOfDeath wrote:Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/


I really liked that too. Especially the part about him taking Jeter's advice. As if you could possibly find a better example of a leader in sports in the modern era.
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Post#203 » by BahamaBull » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:47 pm

What time is the practice tomorrow? CT?

Is it a practice today as well? Where can we watch?

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Post#204 » by Chi » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:56 pm

Felt like this needed to be seen... May even need it's own thread...

Rose never has been a natural, vocal leader, but someone more comfortable leading with his actions on the court. But the NBA ethic is to have the best players take charge. So Rose in his first seasons sought out advice from some of the top leaders in sports. One was the New York Yankees’ Derek Jeter. Jeter relayed that one thing you never do is recruit an outside player because its basically a statement to your teammates that you don’t want them. And then what happens if the player doesn’t come since virtually all recruiting attempts end in failure? Remember, Dwyane Wade really didn’t recruit LeBron. LeBron chose Miami.

Did it make any difference to Carmelo Anthony that Kobe Bryant or Joakim Noah begged for him to join their teams?

So Rose heeded the advice. He let players know he’d support his teammates no matter who they were. He said it’s management’s job to hire the players; it’s his job to help make them better.

Ironically, it was Michael Jordan often at odds with management for trying to recruit players to replace his teammates. That caused a lot of early issues with Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant, whom Jordan was suggesting be replaced.

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.

It’s not that Rose wasn’t trying to help the Bulls get better; it’s that he was trying to do all he could to continue to create a cohesive, supporting team.
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Post#205 » by gstephanopulos » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:05 pm

Never been so pumped to watch a pracice in my life.
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Post#206 » by Trm3 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:06 pm

CousinOfDeath wrote:Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/

That was a very good piece and those are my sentiments on Rose as well. Thanks Jeter, some of us looked at it that way but most wanted Rose's head for not recuiting :roll:

Being on this team is going to be perfect for Rose..he can just lay back, run the offense, and ease into this, while knocking some much needed rust off.
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Post#207 » by Proven_Winner » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:07 pm

Chi wrote:Felt like this needed to be seen... May even need it's own thread...

Rose never has been a natural, vocal leader, but someone more comfortable leading with his actions on the court. But the NBA ethic is to have the best players take charge. So Rose in his first seasons sought out advice from some of the top leaders in sports. One was the New York Yankees’ Derek Jeter. Jeter relayed that one thing you never do is recruit an outside player because its basically a statement to your teammates that you don’t want them. And then what happens if the player doesn’t come since virtually all recruiting attempts end in failure? Remember, Dwyane Wade really didn’t recruit LeBron. LeBron chose Miami.

Did it make any difference to Carmelo Anthony that Kobe Bryant or Joakim Noah begged for him to join their teams?

So Rose heeded the advice. He let players know he’d support his teammates no matter who they were. He said it’s management’s job to hire the players; it’s his job to help make them better.

Ironically, it was Michael Jordan often at odds with management for trying to recruit players to replace his teammates. That caused a lot of early issues with Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant, whom Jordan was suggesting be replaced.

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.

It’s not that Rose wasn’t trying to help the Bulls get better; it’s that he was trying to do all he could to continue to create a cohesive, supporting team.


So basically just supports stuff that some of us have been saying for the longest.
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Post#208 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:09 pm

One of the great articles written by Sam Smith. Needs it's own thread.......

So Rose in his first seasons sought out advice from some of the top leaders in sports. One was the New York Yankees’ Derek Jeter. Jeter relayed that one thing you never do is recruit an outside player because its basically a statement to your teammates that you don’t want them. And then what happens if the player doesn’t come since virtually all recruiting attempts end in failure?


We’ve now seen with many examples that a 12-month recovery with an ACL injury is not unusual. Danilo Gallinari has been out more than a year. Rajon Rondo was out a year. So were Nerlens Noel and Robbie Hummel with similar ACL tears.


Did it make any difference to Carmelo Anthony that Kobe Bryant or Joakim Noah begged for him to join their teams?


So much ETHER in this article.... Sam Smith shut it down
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Post#209 » by RedBulls23 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:15 pm

I don't think it needs its own thread at all. It's been talked about to nauseam and it just needs to be left alone at this point. It's not important nor is it relevant at this point in time. What is important is that Rose plays well and stays healthy.
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Post#211 » by musiqsoulchild » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:27 pm

Red-Bulls83 wrote:I don't think it needs its own thread at all. It's been talked about to nauseam and it just needs to be left alone at this point. It's not important nor is it relevant at this point in time. What is important is that Rose plays well and stays healthy.


Agree completely with you on this.

The BEST recruiting that Derrick can do is to tear up the court again. Destroy his opponents.
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Post#212 » by umfan83 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:27 pm

Chi wrote:Felt like this needed to be seen... May even need it's own thread...

Rose never has been a natural, vocal leader, but someone more comfortable leading with his actions on the court. But the NBA ethic is to have the best players take charge. So Rose in his first seasons sought out advice from some of the top leaders in sports. One was the New York Yankees’ Derek Jeter. Jeter relayed that one thing you never do is recruit an outside player because its basically a statement to your teammates that you don’t want them. And then what happens if the player doesn’t come since virtually all recruiting attempts end in failure? Remember, Dwyane Wade really didn’t recruit LeBron. LeBron chose Miami.

Did it make any difference to Carmelo Anthony that Kobe Bryant or Joakim Noah begged for him to join their teams?

So Rose heeded the advice. He let players know he’d support his teammates no matter who they were. He said it’s management’s job to hire the players; it’s his job to help make them better.

Ironically, it was Michael Jordan often at odds with management for trying to recruit players to replace his teammates. That caused a lot of early issues with Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant, whom Jordan was suggesting be replaced.

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.

It’s not that Rose wasn’t trying to help the Bulls get better; it’s that he was trying to do all he could to continue to create a cohesive, supporting team.


Nah I don't buy it. Basketball culture is different than baseball culture. Recruiting stars has been the norm in the NBA for awhile, because with only 5 players on the court at once and 12 on a roster, one star added to a team impacts the overall team significantly more than a baseball team.
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Post#213 » by Jcool0 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:31 pm

Chi wrote:Felt like this needed to be seen... May even need it's own thread...

Rose never has been a natural, vocal leader, but someone more comfortable leading with his actions on the court. But the NBA ethic is to have the best players take charge. So Rose in his first seasons sought out advice from some of the top leaders in sports. One was the New York Yankees’ Derek Jeter. Jeter relayed that one thing you never do is recruit an outside player because its basically a statement to your teammates that you don’t want them. And then what happens if the player doesn’t come since virtually all recruiting attempts end in failure? Remember, Dwyane Wade really didn’t recruit LeBron. LeBron chose Miami.

Did it make any difference to Carmelo Anthony that Kobe Bryant or Joakim Noah begged for him to join their teams?

So Rose heeded the advice. He let players know he’d support his teammates no matter who they were. He said it’s management’s job to hire the players; it’s his job to help make them better.

Ironically, it was Michael Jordan often at odds with management for trying to recruit players to replace his teammates. That caused a lot of early issues with Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant, whom Jordan was suggesting be replaced.

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.

It’s not that Rose wasn’t trying to help the Bulls get better; it’s that he was trying to do all he could to continue to create a cohesive, supporting team.


To be fair there was a tad more going on with LeBron going to Miami then just him deciding to go to Miami. That whole thing seemed to be planed for a long time.
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Post#214 » by Gregnice33 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:33 pm

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CousinOfDeath wrote:Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/


I really liked that too. Especially the part about him taking Jeter's advice. As if you could possibly find a better example of a leader in sports in the modern era.


Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.


Jeter plays baseball for the NY YANKEES.

Jeter has won 5 world series, and has only missed the playoffs twice in his 20 year career. He plays for the Yankees, a team that has the highest spending payroll in any sport. Jeter has never needed to recruit, the Yankees are the prime target for free agents.

To me comparing Jeter and Rose is apples and oranges.
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Post#215 » by CousinOfDeath » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:34 pm

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Red-Bulls83 wrote:I don't think it needs its own thread at all. It's been talked about to nauseam and it just needs to be left alone at this point. It's not important nor is it relevant at this point in time. What is important is that Rose plays well and stays healthy.


Agree completely with you on this.

The BEST recruiting that Derrick can do is to tear up the court again. Destroy his opponents.


He needs to make everyone hate playing against him so much that they come running to the Bulls for the minimum.
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Post#216 » by CousinOfDeath » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:35 pm

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Chi wrote:Felt like this needed to be seen... May even need it's own thread...

Rose never has been a natural, vocal leader, but someone more comfortable leading with his actions on the court. But the NBA ethic is to have the best players take charge. So Rose in his first seasons sought out advice from some of the top leaders in sports. One was the New York Yankees’ Derek Jeter. Jeter relayed that one thing you never do is recruit an outside player because its basically a statement to your teammates that you don’t want them. And then what happens if the player doesn’t come since virtually all recruiting attempts end in failure? Remember, Dwyane Wade really didn’t recruit LeBron. LeBron chose Miami.

Did it make any difference to Carmelo Anthony that Kobe Bryant or Joakim Noah begged for him to join their teams?

So Rose heeded the advice. He let players know he’d support his teammates no matter who they were. He said it’s management’s job to hire the players; it’s his job to help make them better.

Ironically, it was Michael Jordan often at odds with management for trying to recruit players to replace his teammates. That caused a lot of early issues with Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant, whom Jordan was suggesting be replaced.

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.

It’s not that Rose wasn’t trying to help the Bulls get better; it’s that he was trying to do all he could to continue to create a cohesive, supporting team.


Nah I don't buy it. Basketball culture is different than baseball culture. Recruiting stars has been the norm in the NBA for awhile, because with only 5 players on the court at once and 12 on a roster, one star added to a team impacts the overall team significantly more than a baseball team.


Oh ok you don't buy it. Guess it's all BS then.

We can move on now guys. Derrick's a bad leader and doesn't want to win or respect his teammates.
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Post#217 » by CousinOfDeath » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:36 pm

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wesleybullsfan wrote:
CousinOfDeath wrote:Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/


I really liked that too. Especially the part about him taking Jeter's advice. As if you could possibly find a better example of a leader in sports in the modern era.


Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.


Jeter plays baseball for the NY YANKEES.

Jeter has won 5 world series, and has only missed the playoffs twice in his 20 year career. He plays for the Yankees, a team that has the highest spending payroll in any sport. Jeter has never needed to recruit, the Yankees are the prime target for free agents.

To me comparing Jeter and Rose is apples and oranges.


This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.
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Post#218 » by Proven_Winner » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:38 pm

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Post#219 » by Jcool0 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:40 pm

CousinOfDeath wrote:
Gregnice33 wrote:
wesleybullsfan wrote:
I really liked that too. Especially the part about him taking Jeter's advice. As if you could possibly find a better example of a leader in sports in the modern era.


Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.


Jeter plays baseball for the NY YANKEES.

Jeter has won 5 world series, and has only missed the playoffs twice in his 20 year career. He plays for the Yankees, a team that has the highest spending payroll in any sport. Jeter has never needed to recruit, the Yankees are the prime target for free agents.

To me comparing Jeter and Rose is apples and oranges.


This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.


How exactly do you know that?
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Post#220 » by Gregnice33 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:42 pm

CousinOfDeath wrote:
Gregnice33 wrote:
wesleybullsfan wrote:
I really liked that too. Especially the part about him taking Jeter's advice. As if you could possibly find a better example of a leader in sports in the modern era.


Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.


Jeter plays baseball for the NY YANKEES.

Jeter has won 5 world series, and has only missed the playoffs twice in his 20 year career. He plays for the Yankees, a team that has the highest spending payroll in any sport. Jeter has never needed to recruit, the Yankees are the prime target for free agents.

To me comparing Jeter and Rose is apples and oranges.


This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.


I think the comparison is random because Jeter's situation is so much different than Rose's.

It is easy to say don't recruit when you have never needed to recruit.

I think if Jeter was injured for two years and the Yankees needed him to help attract star Free Agents Jeter would do so.
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