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Final trade thoughts

Great deal
3
5%
Good deal
23
35%
Good deal, but I wanted more
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27%
So so deal
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17%
Bad deal
5
8%
This team is trying to destroy all meaning and make a mockery of the very fabric of the universe
6
9%
 
Total votes: 66

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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#241 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 10:54 pm

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Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz


There's no penalty for not getting to the minimum.

You have to pay the difference
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#242 » by sixers hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:03 pm

Northern hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz


There's no penalty for not getting to the minimum.

You have to pay the difference


That's not a penalty. You just pay the minimum amount, so why would we take on guys we don't want or need without incentive? Would rather keep Young who can actually play and is a fan favorite.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#243 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:12 pm

sixers hoops wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
There's no penalty for not getting to the minimum.

You have to pay the difference


That's not a penalty. You just pay the minimum amount, so why would we take on guys we don't want or need without incentive? Would rather keep Young who can actually play and is a fan favorite.

KMart is better than any SG on your roster. Mbah a Moute is an elite defender, who could start at SF, Shabazz is a prospect, and JJ and Shved could be valuable if they're used right, which they weren't last year with Adelman
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#244 » by Hardcore6erFan » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:16 pm

Northern hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You have to pay the difference


That's not a penalty. You just pay the minimum amount, so why would we take on guys we don't want or need without incentive? Would rather keep Young who can actually play and is a fan favorite.

KMart is better than any SG on your roster. Mbah a Moute is an elite defender, who could start at SF, Shabazz is a prospect, and JJ and Shved could be valuable if they're used right, which they weren't last year with Adelman


lol and Brandon Davies is prime Shawn Marion
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#245 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:21 pm

Northern hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You have to pay the difference


That's not a penalty. You just pay the minimum amount, so why would we take on guys we don't want or need without incentive? Would rather keep Young who can actually play and is a fan favorite.

KMart is better than any SG on your roster. Mbah a Moute is an elite defender, who could start at SF, Shabazz is a prospect, and JJ and Shved could be valuable if they're used right, which they weren't last year with Adelman


I can tell you that Hinkie would want no part of Martin or Mbah a Moute. They aren't going to do anything for this team this year or in the long-term.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#246 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:21 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
That's not a penalty. You just pay the minimum amount, so why would we take on guys we don't want or need without incentive? Would rather keep Young who can actually play and is a fan favorite.

KMart is better than any SG on your roster. Mbah a Moute is an elite defender, who could start at SF, Shabazz is a prospect, and JJ and Shved could be valuable if they're used right, which they weren't last year with Adelman


lol and Brandon Davies is prime Shawn Marion

What about that is laughable
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#247 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:28 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
That's not a penalty. You just pay the minimum amount, so why would we take on guys we don't want or need without incentive? Would rather keep Young who can actually play and is a fan favorite.

KMart is better than any SG on your roster. Mbah a Moute is an elite defender, who could start at SF, Shabazz is a prospect, and JJ and Shved could be valuable if they're used right, which they weren't last year with Adelman


I can tell you that Hinkie would want no part of Martin or Mbah a Moute. They aren't going to do anything for this team this year or in the long-term.

Martin could be flipped at the deadline for picks, and Moute is an expiring. I'd like to keep Martin but we need roster spots for Robinson III and Bennett
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#248 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:38 pm

Just for kicks...

Cleveland out: Wiggins, Bennett, Miami 2015 first-rounder
Cleveland in: Love

Minnesota out: Love, Brewer, Budinger
Minnesota in: Miami '15 first-rounder, Philly '16 first-rounder, Young, Bennett, Saric, Wroten, Richardson (exp)

Philadelphia out: Young, Saric, Wroten, Richardson, '16 first-rounder
Philadelphia in: Wiggins, Brewer, Budinger
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#249 » by bebopdeluxe » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:38 pm

Northern hoops wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:KMart is better than any SG on your roster. Mbah a Moute is an elite defender, who could start at SF, Shabazz is a prospect, and JJ and Shved could be valuable if they're used right, which they weren't last year with Adelman


I can tell you that Hinkie would want no part of Martin or Mbah a Moute. They aren't going to do anything for this team this year or in the long-term.

Martin could be flipped at the deadline for picks, and Moute is an expiring. I'd like to keep Martin but we need roster spots for Robinson III and Bennett


Do you think that ALL of the reports that Flip wants Thad sheer ****?
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#250 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:40 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:
I can tell you that Hinkie would want no part of Martin or Mbah a Moute. They aren't going to do anything for this team this year or in the long-term.

Martin could be flipped at the deadline for picks, and Moute is an expiring. I'd like to keep Martin but we need roster spots for Robinson III and Bennett


Do you think that ALL of the reports that Flip wants Thad sheer ****?

No? That's why I'm on here discussing trades for him....
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#251 » by LloydFree » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:41 pm

Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz

As the man said above, 'there is no penalty for getting to the minimum'.

I wouldn't take back Martin's contract in that package without getting a 1st. If its just Barea, aMoute and Shabazz for Thad Young, that's fair in my book.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#252 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:45 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz

As the man said above, 'there is no penalty for getting to the minimum'.

I wouldn't take back Martin's contract in that package without getting a 1st. If its just Barea, aMoute and Shabazz for Thad Young, that's fair in my book.

I'd do that trade for sure. Didn't think Philly fans would do it without getting some scoring back though. You guys tanking even harder this year? Haha. In all honesty though I wish we'd just tank. However, our owner isn't willing to take a hit. We've been in the late lottery for a while now and there are absolutely no perks of it. You guys have one more bad year and after that you could be contenders down the line. I really like your draft picks in the last couple years.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#253 » by Embiid P » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:46 pm

Meh nothing on the Wolves roster outside of Love interests me enough to give up our young core (Embiid, Noel and MCW) for theirs. With that said, I think many Sixers fans on this board severely overrate Thad's value to other teams. We'd be lucky to get a first for him considering how little the Magic got for Afflalo. I don't see them moving any of their young pieces for Thad.
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Post#254 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:48 pm

Stinky Hinkie wrote:Meh nothing on the Wolves roster outside of Love interests me enough to give up our young core (Embiid, Noel and MCW) for theirs. With that said, I think many Sixers fans on this board severely overrate Thad's value to other teams. We'd be lucky to get a first for him considering how little the Magic got for Afflalo. I don't see them moving any of their young pieces for him.

I'd move anything outside of
Rubio
Dieng
LaVine
Robinson III
And soon to be Wiggins(!!!)
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#255 » by LloydFree » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:51 pm

Northern hoops wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz

As the man said above, 'there is no penalty for getting to the minimum'.

I wouldn't take back Martin's contract in that package without getting a 1st. If its just Barea, aMoute and Shabazz for Thad Young, that's fair in my book.

I'd do that trade for sure. Didn't think Philly fans would do it without getting some scoring back though. You guys tanking even harder this year? Haha

No, the question is why does Flip Saunders want Thad Young? He's not even a good fit with Pekovic.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#256 » by LloydFree » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:54 pm

Northern hoops wrote:
Stinky Hinkie wrote:Meh nothing on the Wolves roster outside of Love interests me enough to give up our young core (Embiid, Noel and MCW) for theirs. With that said, I think many Sixers fans on this board severely overrate Thad's value to other teams. We'd be lucky to get a first for him considering how little the Magic got for Afflalo. I don't see them moving any of their young pieces for him.

I'd move anything outside of
Rubio
Dieng
LaVine
Robinson III
And soon to be Wiggins(!!!)

You like Glenn Ronbinson's potential more than Shabazz's?
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#257 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:54 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:
LloydFree wrote:As the man said above, 'there is no penalty for getting to the minimum'.

I wouldn't take back Martin's contract in that package without getting a 1st. If its just Barea, aMoute and Shabazz for Thad Young, that's fair in my book.

I'd do that trade for sure. Didn't think Philly fans would do it without getting some scoring back though. You guys tanking even harder this year? Haha

No, the question is why does Flip Saunders want Thad Young? He's not even a good fit with Pekovic.

He wants to contend for a playoff spot and there really are no other options.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#258 » by Northern hoops » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:56 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:
Stinky Hinkie wrote:Meh nothing on the Wolves roster outside of Love interests me enough to give up our young core (Embiid, Noel and MCW) for theirs. With that said, I think many Sixers fans on this board severely overrate Thad's value to other teams. We'd be lucky to get a first for him considering how little the Magic got for Afflalo. I don't see them moving any of their young pieces for him.

I'd move anything outside of
Rubio
Dieng
LaVine
Robinson III
And soon to be Wiggins(!!!)

You like Glenn Ronbinson's potential more than Shabazz's?

I do to be honest. Shabazz's game is weird. Gets his points off post ups and o boards, which is weird for a 6-6 guy. Robinson has the potential to be a good shooter, which is what we need with Rubio
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#259 » by mrfantast1c » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:57 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz

As the man said above, 'there is no penalty for getting to the minimum'.

I wouldn't take back Martin's contract in that package without getting a 1st. If its just Barea, aMoute and Shabazz for Thad Young, that's fair in my book.


Shabazz has been terrible, and I doubt Hinkie thinks he is a good prospect. I think Hinkie is eyeing a first, or Anthony Bennett. If there's no first, or no Bennett, i doubt he's involved in the trade.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#260 » by mrfantast1c » Sun Aug 3, 2014 11:58 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:You guys realize you have to get up to 56 million to meet the minimum cap right?
Martin Barea (expiring) Mbah a Moute (Expiring) and Shved (expiring) is about 20 million with only about 7 on the books next year. Gives you shooting in Martin, a leader for Embiid in Mbah, and a couple streaky shooting guards.
We'd probably throw in a couple seconds, but why would they Wolves give up a first for a one year rental of Young?
He'll I'd even give you Shabazz

As the man said above, 'there is no penalty for getting to the minimum'.

I wouldn't take back Martin's contract in that package without getting a 1st. If its just Barea, aMoute and Shabazz for Thad Young, that's fair in my book.


Shabazz has been terrible, and I doubt Hinkie thinks he is a good prospect. I think Hinkie is eyeing a first, or Anthony Bennett. If there's no first, or no Bennett, then I really can't see Hinkie pulling the trigger

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