Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[SavageBel]

PG MCW
SG KJ
SF Hollis
PF Bennett
C Nerlens

DAAAMMMN
I love this lineup for next year

Young guns with guns blazing!

[Moses_Doc_83]

I would give up our first round pick for the next 2 seasons for Wiggins

MCW
Wiggins
Noel
Embiid

Come at us league

On a side note, can we trade our 2015 pick 15-30 protected, since it is traded to Boston 1-14 protected?

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

[Agnostifarian]

After this trade the Wolves will have the Roster I wanted going into the draft.

Rubio is their MCW
Lavine
Wiggins
Thad
Pek is their Noel.

so close...and yet

Well...Pek isn't really the same thing as Noel. And if you looked at both rosters in 3 years, the Sixers will have replaced Thad in your lineup with Embiid, LaVine in your lineup with a top 10 pick in 2015, and Wiggins in your lineup with a top level free agent SF (maybe even KD?).

So I'll take the Sixers lineup every day.

I just meant in terms of filling the center spot.

But Adding Wiggins and Lavine PLUS the top15 pick (which would easily be a bigman) seems better to me.

also lets get this out of the way now

KD isn't coming here. It's OKC, Washington and maybe Toronto. I want people to stop getting this idea that KD or any high profile talent will come here just like that. Even if Embiid and Noel are legit..they will still be virtually unproven by then as we probably won't have made the playoffs by then.

any future lineup that has KD (or FA STAR) apart of it is super dumb IMO. OKC and Washington will be better win now spots than we will be..barring Embiid being that great from jump and leading us to playoffs success right away (he won't...Embiid is a great prospect but guys..he will need time to develop..,..lots of time). KD or this hypothetical FA will only leave their current spots to WIN RIGHT NOW.

so just stop before you guys fall.

Their isn't a great clamor on this board calling for KD to come here (yet). However, there is an obnoxious amount of love for Andrew Wiggins as evidenced by your post(s) on this page as well as the myriad of Threads started about Andrew Wiggins over the last year. The 2014 Draft is over. Wiggins would already be a 76er if Hinkie wanted him here.

Also, Pek is the antithesis of a "Hinkie Player."

[Agnostifarian]

Andrew Wiggins: "I want to play where I'm wanted."

ANDREW PHILLY LOVES YOU COMMMMEEEEE HOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEE

Without Noel, we don't have a realistic offer, and I don't know that Hinkie or wolves would make that swap.

But seriously can't we do like a Cavs get Love, Sixers get Andy Wiggy, and the T'Wolves can fold cause no one gives a **** about Minnesota... fair?

The way the Cavs have treated this poor young canadian boy is a travesty. I'm about to call child protective services on Dan Gilbert. The bastard.

OOPS... I am issuing a formal apology to Mik317 re: Andrew Wiggins Love. I mistook you for having posted this PK5 beauty which got three and 1s from the Andrew Wiggins Peanut Gallery.

[LloydFree]

I would give up our first round pick for the next 2 seasons for Wiggins

MCW
Wiggins
Noel
Embiid

Come at us league

On a side note, can we trade our 2015 pick 15-30 protected, since it is traded to Boston 1-14 protected?

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

Wiggins again? Come on.

[Moses_Doc_83]

On a side note, can we trade our 2015 pick 15-30 protected, since it is traded to Boston 1-14 protected?

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

Wiggins again? Come on.

What? Is there a better young wing I'm missing that they have the opportunity to acquire? I realize bigs are more valuable, but there does reach the point of diminishing returns. They can't oversaturate themselves with big men. Next year the top of the draft is all big men.

[LloydFree]

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

Wiggins again? Come on.

What? Is there a better young wing I'm missing that they have the opportunity to acquire? I realize bigs are more valuable, but there does reach the point of diminishing returns. They can't oversaturate themselves with big men. Next year the top of the draft is all big men.

They don't have the opportunity to get him now, and they didn't want him over Embiid in the 1st place. Let it go.

[DayofMourning]

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

Hezonja is a top wing talent for next year. He also fits what your team needs to a tee. He is a very good outside shooter, above average athlete who shows a lot of promise on the defensive side. Combine that with his alpha personality, and you could have the perfect backcourt mate to MCW.

[Moses_Doc_83]

Wiggins again? Come on.

What? Is there a better young wing I'm missing that they have the opportunity to acquire? I realize bigs are more valuable, but there does reach the point of diminishing returns. They can't oversaturate themselves with big men. Next year the top of the draft is all big men.

They don't have the opportunity to get him now, and they didn't want him over Embiid in the 1st place. Let it go.

Disagree. And no one said they wanted Wiggins over Embiid. Embiid is and was the better prospect, but I don't see anything wrong with wanting both. Greedy? Sure. Otherwise Minny can just keep their overpaid crap.

[Agnostifarian]

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

Wiggins again? Come on.

What? Is there a better young wing I'm missing that they have the opportunity to acquire? I realize bigs are more valuable, but there does reach the point of diminishing returns. They can't oversaturate themselves with big men. Next year the top of the draft is all big men.

You are missing the point. Hinkie isn't trying to get Wiggins. Once (if) that sinks in with you, start another thread about how much better Hinkie would be doing if he listened to you and the rest of the local chapter of the Wiggins fan club.

[Mr Sixer]

As has been mentioned, yes they can, and should if they can end up with Wiggins. No wings at the top of next year's class. Wiggins/Thompson and McRae/McDaniels could grow into a formidable wing rotation.

Wiggins again? Come on.

What? Is there a better young wing I'm missing that they have the opportunity to acquire? I realize bigs are more valuable, but there does reach the point of diminishing returns. They can't oversaturate themselves with big men. Next year the top of the draft is all big men.

Dude just stop, we don't have the opportunity to acquire Wiggins. We are facilitating a three team trade because Flip sees Wiggins as a superior asset than the other offers for Love on the table. He is not going to just let us take Wiggins, the number 1 pick overall in what the media hyped up to be one of the best drafts in a long time, for a total question mark of a pick. If we could trade Thad + our 2015 pick + even other assets for love alone we would have done that already and then turned around and flipped Love right away because the value is just not there.

[Moses_Doc_83]

I will now advocate holding on to Thad and to let Minnesota hold on to those myriad of bad contracts they have. Fair? Bennett/Barea for Thad, even with the CLE 1st, does nothing for me. Go big or go home, Hinkie has acquired plenty of little assets now. I believe Hinkie is thinking the same way or Lin or Thornton would have been Sixers.

[MountainDrew]

The celtics and lakers got junk for taking on bad contracts. We may be getting last year's no1 pick and another decent pick for an expiring contract.

[Agnostifarian]

Aside from the Cavs discontinuing the production of Wiggy's jersey, apparently Minny has discontinued Love's too. Too bad we gotta wait about 3 weeks for something to officially go down.

Just out of fun tho, what would you guys do if we somehow ended up with Wiggy via Thad and a couple of firsts? Timing is right too, with the whole new lottery system coming to place.

This is what I have been advocating from the jump. Even if it was Noel, Young, and our 2015 1st (the half we can trade) for Bennett and Wiggins... I'd do that in a heartbeat. Of course, trading a 2017 1st is preferable to Noel. But notice there have been no details leaked yet even though all indicators point to the fact this deal is done and just waiting the 30 days until Wiggins can be moved? That reeks of Hinkie. No matter how unrealistic, Hinkie needs to push. I just hope it's not Waiters.

Are you still advocating to trade Noel, Thad, and the unprotected part of the 76er 2015 first round pick for Wiggins and Bennett?

Please, take a time out.

[Moses_Doc_83]

Aside from the Cavs discontinuing the production of Wiggy's jersey, apparently Minny has discontinued Love's too. Too bad we gotta wait about 3 weeks for something to officially go down.

Just out of fun tho, what would you guys do if we somehow ended up with Wiggy via Thad and a couple of firsts? Timing is right too, with the whole new lottery system coming to place.

This is what I have been advocating from the jump. Even if it was Noel, Young, and our 2015 1st (the half we can trade) for Bennett and Wiggins... I'd do that in a heartbeat. Of course, trading a 2017 1st is preferable to Noel. But notice there have been no details leaked yet even though all indicators point to the fact this deal is done and just waiting the 30 days until Wiggins can be moved? That reeks of Hinkie. No matter how unrealistic, Hinkie needs to push. I just hope it's not Waiters.

Are you still advocating to trade Noel, Thad, and the unprotected part of the 76er 2015 first round pick for Wiggins and Bennett?

Please, take a time out.

That would be better than what they will get. Anyway, you get your wish. Good to see you all love open discussion.

[Agnostifarian]

This is what I have been advocating from the jump. Even if it was Noel, Young, and our 2015 1st (the half we can trade) for Bennett and Wiggins... I'd do that in a heartbeat. Of course, trading a 2017 1st is preferable to Noel. But notice there have been no details leaked yet even though all indicators point to the fact this deal is done and just waiting the 30 days until Wiggins can be moved? That reeks of Hinkie. No matter how unrealistic, Hinkie needs to push. I just hope it's not Waiters.

Are you still advocating to trade Noel, Thad, and the unprotected part of the 76er 2015 first round pick for Wiggins and Bennett?

Please, take a time out.

That would be better than what they will get. Anyway, you get your wish. Good to see you all love open discussion.

It's not about open discussion. That is the point. These are Sixer fans first; some have favorite players. You keep jamming Andrew Wiggins into the open discussions as though you are a Wiggins Fan first and you have a favorite team. You might be happier following CLE or MIN.

[BullyKing]

I will now advocate holding on to Thad and to let Minnesota hold on to those myriad of bad contracts they have. Fair? Bennett/Barea for Thad, even with the CLE 1st, does nothing for me. Go big or go home, Hinkie has acquired plenty of little assets now. I believe Hinkie is thinking the same way or Lin or Thornton would have been Sixers.

You can feel however you want but I don't see the benefit of refusing to do trades that benefit you because you are only interested in home runs. Long term, being unreasonable in your demands is not a winning strategy (see, e.g., Amaro, Ruben).

[BullyKing]

Are you still advocating to trade Noel, Thad, and the unprotected part of the 76er 2015 first round pick for Wiggins and Bennett?

Please, take a time out.

That would be better than what they will get. Anyway, you get your wish. Good to see you all love open discussion.

It's not about open discussion. That is the point. These are Sixer fans first; some have favorite players. You keep jamming Andrew Wiggins into the open discussions as though you are a Wiggins Fan first and you have a favorite team. You might be happier following CLE or MIN.

As would we.

[vdalfmd]

Is there a possibility that McRae is being included in the package and sent to Minny or Cleveland? I've read somewhere that he didn't do the rookie promotional photoshoots... If we include him in the deal I expect that we're not taking any terrible salary like Kevin Martin's!!!

(Stop talking about ways to get Wiggins!!!)

[51X3RF4N]

I think the difference here is that this thread is designed to talk about the RUMORED deal, which does NOT include Wiggins to Philly.

Moses_Doc.... if you want to discuss potential trades for Wiggins, put them in the FANTASY trade thread, where they belong. Getting Wiggins is indeed a fantasy and has about .0000000001% chance of actually happening this season. I think the Sixers could lure him in a few years to come play with Embiid, but that's a different topic altogether.

If you are just posting because you WANT the Sixers to go out and make a big splash by trading Noel and other assets for Wiggins, then by all means, the Fantasy trade is exactly where you want to be. But a word of advice my friend...go into it with realistic expectations. It is simply not very realistic to propose a trade where Wiggins comes to Philly. So from the start, everything else you say on the topic is going to be debated heavily and pretty much spit on by the fans who just don't have a mind for unrealistic (fantasy) ideas. It's nothing personal against you or your ideas. It's simply the wrong thread, and maybe the wrong fanbase to be attempting this type of discussion.

Make sense?