The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime!

[PhxSunsFan1234]

Monroe is willing, believing the money will be there for him. Monroe will be one of the best big men available next summer and is expected to receive several offers. He received two max offers this offseason, but a sign-and-trade deal could not be reached, a person familiar with situation said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /13967777/

LOL why wouldn't he just sign the deals. Who cares about S&T. FAKE.

Bye Bye Bledsoe. Obviously doesn't want to be in Phoenix. Probably wants to be in Cleveland with Manziel and LeBron.

[bwgood77]

I'd be pulling that offer back if there is no communication soon.

Let his ass rot on the QU somewhere else.

If it's true that playing under the QO erases bird rights then it's in the teams best interest to play ball and get something for him now. I know the "emphasis is on Eric and his agent to find a deal," but if I'm the Suns I'm quietly gauging interest from cash strapped teams looking for an upgrade at the point right now.

Listened to an NBA radio interview with one of the Pistons writers. He did mention Phoenix as a potential S&T partner, and did mention that a position of need for them is PG despite the presence of Jennings.

Yeah, I mentioned that on the GB thread. It could make some sense. I don't necessarily like Monroe on a big deal, but for the QO to test him out, it might be worth it instead of losing Bledsoe for nothing if we can't get something better.

I still wouldn't mind a Brandon Knight/Middleton/protected pick deal though just to give us that third guard off the bench and insurance for Green possibly leaving. Middleton and potential big upside guy too.

But wouldn't do these deals unless we get to late September.

[bwgood77]

so with the Tucker suspension will the plan be to start Warren the first three games and see what he can do? little trial by fire perhaps? Or will they go with Marcus?

Go with Marcus, or possibly Green at the 3, but definitely a good chance to put Warren in the game at times to see what he can do in a real game quickly. It would go a long way to seeing if he needs a wake up call at what it takes at this level or if he is near ready (which I doubt, though he may be more ready than just about any other rookie outside of maybe Parker and McDermott).

[bwgood77]

@foxsports910: .@judefox10 on #Suns & Bledsoe: "I think it's personal. I don't think a max offer is going to solve this strained relationship."


What did the suns do that was so bad? They offered Bledsoe multimillion dollar deal. Guess that's so horrible. It's official, Bledsoe and Richie need to go.

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How does Jude LaCava know anything about this relationship? Who is he getting his info from or is he just forming opinions based on what is in the press and social media? If this is personal - to is one sided.

Well in all fairness he said he THINKS. That's quite a bit different than flat out saying. "It has become personal."

[Jdiddy701]

If Bledsoe would have resigned with Phoenix and accepted the offer first week of free agency, would the Suns have had a different offseason? Just wondering. I don't think they would have. They seem okay with what they got I think. This offseason has been boring for us.

Their main target was Lebron. I think Kevin Love would have been here and Dragic would have been shipped out.

[bwgood77]

If Bledsoe would have resigned with Phoenix and accepted the offer first week of free agency, would the Suns have had a different offseason? Just wondering. I don't think they would have. They seem okay with what they got I think. This offseason has been boring for us.

Their main target was Lebron. I think Kevin Love would have been here and Dragic would have been shipped out.

There is still a better than 50/50 chance that Bledsoe re-signs and this whole ordeal is behind us. I think we will still be pretty exciting if he leaves though. A Dragic, IT, Green rotation at guard would be better offensively, and then we would still be a very young team that should grow and improve. We would obviously have a worse defense, but our offense could improve if the guards have enough spacing to operate. Bledsoe is obviously better than IT, but IT at 82 games probably helps us more than Bledsoe at 43 games, so if we can replace Frye's absence adequately, we should improve, and maybe have even better chemistry. Also we could have no qualms about maxing out Dragic if need be.

[asudevil]

IF Bledsoe takes his QO, there are a couple of stipulations:

a.) He can veto any trade
b.) the reason he can veto any trade is that any team he is traded to loses his Bird Rights. Meaning that they must have the cap space to resign him outright as though he was a FA if he wants a ton of money.

So no talk about Bledsoe taking his QO and we ship him off to somewhere like Cleveland, because Cleveland wont have his bird rights to max him out after next season.

I have no idea why a player would take their QO unless both they and their agent have no idea what they are doing.

[King4Day]

Hopefully Philly does trade Young and then offer Bledsoe something and he accepts. At least that way the ball is in our court.

[drewsprocket]

Hopefully Philly does trade Young and then offer Bledsoe something and he accepts. At least that way the ball is in our court.

Philly might be on the hook to give up more than Young. They're supposedly trying getting Anthony Bennett for giving up Young...
Bledsoe might garner a high first rounder for taking Young off their hands.

[letsgosuns]

I like Bledsoe a lot and I think he has star potential for a point guard. However, I have never heard of a team dominating the league and winning the title with a three headed monster point guard lineup like the Suns will have if they re-sign him. I just have not. I also do not consider the 80's Pistons a comparison because Thomas and Dumars are in an entirely different stratosphere than Dragic and Bledsoe. Therefore, I really only care about the Suns getting back something of quality for Bledsoe. The Suns have five guards that need to play besides Bledsoe in Dragic, Green, Thomas, Goodwin, and Ennis. Then they have three small forwards in Tucker, Warren, and Marcus. Their biggest weakness is power forward as they only have Markieff and Tolliver. They have their centers in Plumlee and Len. They own the rights to Bogdanovic and Alec Brown. They have multiple picks for next summer's draft.

I think the Suns will take a step forward next season regardless if Bledsoe is on the team or not. I really do. So why invest huge money to a player who has already had two knee surgeries and other injuries, especially at a position of strength on the team? No point. I am telling you, re-signing Bledsoe does not put the Suns in title contention. The league still belongs to the Spurs, Lebron's team, and Durant's team right now. Eric Bledsoe does not elevate the Suns to that tier. No way.

[DirtyDez]

Lol, remember when Bledsoe for Thomas/#8 was seen as a horrible deal?

[SideSwipe]

Monroe is willing, believing the money will be there for him. Monroe will be one of the best big men available next summer and is expected to receive several offers. He received two max offers this offseason, but a sign-and-trade deal could not be reached, a person familiar with situation said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /13967777/

LOL why wouldn't he just sign the deals. Who cares about S&T. FAKE.

Bye Bye Bledsoe. Obviously doesn't want to be in Phoenix. Probably wants to be in Cleveland with Manziel and LeBron.

Not necessarily. Could have been Indy saying we will offer you Max if DET takes back Hibbert in S&T, maybe GSW for Bogut; MIL for Sanders...lots of options.

[JTrain]

If he takes the QO it becomes a normal one year contract, correct? So if he gets traded during the season, he is only under contract with the new team until the end of the season, at which point he is an UFA?

[Revived]

Now that Monroe's taken the QO, I think it will give Bledsoe more confidence to do the same.

Bledsoe and his agent are too stupid to realize that Monroe is one of the most durable bigs in basketball while Bledsoe is an extremely injury prone guard.

[Revived]

If he takes the QO it becomes a normal one year contract, correct? So if he gets traded during the season, he is only under contract with the new team until the end of the season, at which point he is an UFA?

If he takes QO, we can't trade him without his permission.

[JTrain]

If he takes the QO it becomes a normal one year contract, correct? So if he gets traded during the season, he is only under contract with the new team until the end of the season, at which point he is an UFA?

If he takes QO, we can't trade him without his permission.

I know but assuming he agrees to it. UFA at the end of the year?

[Revived]

If he takes the QO it becomes a normal one year contract, correct? So if he gets traded during the season, he is only under contract with the new team until the end of the season, at which point he is an UFA?

If he takes QO, we can't trade him without his permission.

I know but assuming he agrees to it. UFA at the end of the year?

Yes.

[Zelaznyrules]

If he takes the QO it becomes a normal one year contract, correct? So if he gets traded during the season, he is only under contract with the new team until the end of the season, at which point he is an UFA?

If he takes QO, we can't trade him without his permission.

I know but assuming he agrees to it. UFA at the end of the year?

Yes but without his Bird rights intact.

[JTrain]

If he takes QO, we can't trade him without his permission.

I know but assuming he agrees to it. UFA at the end of the year?

Yes.

That's what I was afraid of. I was hoping there was some clause that allowed the new team to add an extension to the deal. Without that it will be hard to get much out of anyone.

[NaturalBuns]

Teams made a mistake not going after Monroe IMO.
He will pan out..