FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[Riot Randolph]

i would love the Knicks to target Nick Calethes..see if they could get him cheap...hes a beast in the making end of last year he really put everything together and was balling

[DowNY]

Assuming Bledsoe takes the QO like Greg Monroe did;

Knicks receive: Eric Bledsoe, Josh Smith & Kendrick Perkins

Pistons receive: Andrea Bargnani, Reggie Jackson & Iman Shumpert

Suns receive: Jose Calderon, Jeremy Lamb & Greg Monroe

Thunder receive: Brandon Jennings, JR Smith & rights to Thanasis Antekompo

Knicks do this to flip JR & Calderon into a defensive PF in Josh Smith that we'd need to stop Lebron. Also, Eric Bledsoe's cap hold should be cheaper than Shumpert's, which should allow us to free a few extra million of cap space next offseason. Could go over the cap to re-sign Bledsoe after a nice FA signing.

Pistons does this to get out of their long term deals. Monroe is leaving regardless. They can decide to keep Jackson & Shump if they like.

For the Suns, the same could almost be said with Bledsoe that was said for Monroe. But instead of dealing their long term deals, because they don't really have any, they decide to acquire a player with youth & potential on a rookie deal still plus an experienced PG that can start or come off the bench for them. The main prize here is obviously Greg Monroe. Same contract problem with a different team, but seems more of a fit here & probably could get a deal done come next offseason.

Thunder does this for a pure talent & experience upgrade for the playoffs. Can be a real nice scoring duo off the bench. Both players have a year left on their deals after this season. So not really any long term commitment.

[Boarder Patrol]

Perkins, Jackson and Lamb for JR and Jennings? Jennings and Smith are negatives and hurt your chances at a title, no way the Thunder even take them for free. JR and an asset for Perkins they may consider.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Please no to Josh Smith and no to Jeremy Lin (before someone suggests we trade for him again).
Those are targets the former regimes would have acquired and spun to us as game changers.
Phil is here now.
We CAN have nice things.

[NYKBaller]

Amare Stoudemire fot ersan llysova and larry sanders. Shed them some cap space giving the team totally to the eurofreak and Jabari while giving us a defensive starting center and depth in the front court.

[DowNY]

Perkins, Jackson and Lamb for JR and Jennings? Jennings and Smith are negatives and hurt your chances at a title, no way the Thunder even take them for free. JR and an asset for Perkins they may consider.

Perkins is top 5 worst player in the whole league. Thunder would give him away if they could.
You're looking at Jackson (soon to be free agent) and Lamb for Brandon Jennings & JR. Both players who can create a shot. Lamb hardly even played in the playoffs. He has no spot on that team. Jackson will be signed by another team come next season & Thunder won't have anything to show for him.

Call Josh Smith a negative all you want, he'd be a great fit defensively with Melo. He could handle guarding Lebron while Melo takes on Love.

A Line-up of:
Eric Bledsoe
Tim Hardaway Jr
Carmelo Anthony
Josh Smith

Plus about $16/$17Ms to play with for a FA next offseason? I'll take that.

[DowNY]

Please no to Josh Smith and no to Jeremy Lin (before someone suggests we trade for him again).
Those are targets the former regimes would have acquired and spun to us as game changers.
Phil is here now.
We CAN have nice things.

Josh Smith is not that much of a negative if presented in the right scheme and situation.
He could easily play a Dennis Rodman role.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Please no to Josh Smith and no to Jeremy Lin (before someone suggests we trade for him again).
Those are targets the former regimes would have acquired and spun to us as game changers.
Phil is here now.
We CAN have nice things.

Josh Smith is not that much of a negative if presented in the right scheme and situation.
He could easily play a Dennis Rodman role.

"Easily play a Dennis Rodman role"
Did you ever see Rodman vs. Alonzo Mourning or Dennis vs. Shaq??
He was an otherworldly rebounder and defender. His basketball IQ was off the charts.

My dude, you are seriously understating Dennis Rodman the basketball player if you compare Josh Smith to him.
That's like saying JJ Hickson could easily play a Shaq role or JR Smith could easily play a Michael Jordan role.
Those are special players, with special athletic gifts and almost supernatural intangibles.

Josh Smith is a good player in terms of physical talent but Josh couldn't hold Dennis' jock strap on his best day.....even though Dennis would probably let him.

[dakomish23]

Please no to Josh Smith and no to Jeremy Lin (before someone suggests we trade for him again).
Those are targets the former regimes would have acquired and spun to us as game changers.
Phil is here now.
We CAN have nice things.

Josh Smith is not that much of a negative if presented in the right scheme and situation.
He could easily play a Dennis Rodman role.

No one thought he was bad just one yr prior when he was top 5 in ppg rpg apg spg bpg at his true position of SF.

What have you done for me lately....unless you're Derrick Rose. Then it's all good to be away for 2 years

[DowNY]

Please no to Josh Smith and no to Jeremy Lin (before someone suggests we trade for him again).
Those are targets the former regimes would have acquired and spun to us as game changers.
Phil is here now.
We CAN have nice things.

Josh Smith is not that much of a negative if presented in the right scheme and situation.
He could easily play a Dennis Rodman role.

"Easily play a Dennis Rodman role"
Did you ever see Rodman vs. Alonzo Mourning or Dennis vs. Shaq??
He was an otherworldly rebounder and defender. His basketball IQ was off the charts.

My dude, you are seriously understating Dennis Rodman the basketball player if you compare Josh Smith to him.
That's like saying JJ Hickson could easily play a Shaq role or JR Smith could easily play a Michael Jordan role.
Those are special players, with special athletic gifts and almost supernatural intangibles.

Josh Smith is a good player in terms of physical talent but Josh couldn't hold Dennis' jock strap on his best day.....even though Dennis would probably let him.

Lol ayo man.

Nah, said Dennis Rodman ROLE. Didn't say he can be our Dennis Rodman or anything like that.

[dakomish23]

ATL gets
Bargs
Williams
Dalembert or the pick we'd get in a trade of Dalembert (CLE is looking for a rim protector)

MIL gets
Teague

SAC gets
JR

NYK gets
Horford
Sanders


ATL gets the massive cap space they apparently want...again. They can get Monroe and whomever else they want.
MIL dumps their biggest contract and gets a pg to run with Parker and Gianis in the Kidd offense
SAC adds some more firepower essentially for free

NYK gets two failry young bigs who when healthy play above their pay grade. And we let the MGasol dream go for two guys who give us depth and solidify our frontcourt. I really like these two guys because they don't need 15 shots to have a huge impact on the game. Also think they'd play well next to each other as the power guys behind a loaded backcourt.

And we'd keep our biggest chip for the deadline when someone will deal a very high quality player.

[Zooropa]

My gut feeling is that once the season begins in earnest, Phil will be reluctant to make trades in the interest of fostering a sense of security and unity within the team. Unless an offer comes up that he can't refuse, of course.

[siar617]

Assuming Bledsoe takes the QO like Greg Monroe did;

Knicks receive: Eric Bledsoe, Josh Smith & Kendrick Perkins

Pistons receive: Andrea Bargnani, Reggie Jackson & Iman Shumpert

Suns receive: Jose Calderon, Jeremy Lamb & Greg Monroe

Thunder receive: Brandon Jennings, JR Smith & rights to Thanasis Antekompo

Knicks do this to flip JR & Calderon into a defensive PF in Josh Smith that we'd need to stop Lebron. Also, Eric Bledsoe's cap hold should be cheaper than Shumpert's, which should allow us to free a few extra million of cap space next offseason. Could go over the cap to re-sign Bledsoe after a nice FA signing.

Pistons does this to get out of their long term deals. Monroe is leaving regardless. They can decide to keep Jackson & Shump if they like.

For the Suns, the same could almost be said with Bledsoe that was said for Monroe. But instead of dealing their long term deals, because they don't really have any, they decide to acquire a player with youth & potential on a rookie deal still plus an experienced PG that can start or come off the bench for them. The main prize here is obviously Greg Monroe. Same contract problem with a different team, but seems more of a fit here & probably could get a deal done come next offseason.

Thunder does this for a pure talent & experience upgrade for the playoffs. Can be a real nice scoring duo off the benh. Both players have a year left on their deals after this season. So not really any long term commitment.

This trade sucks. Calderon Smith Shumpert the rights to Thanasis and Bargnani for a package of Perkins who is a waste of space. Josh Smith pure who is just as smart as a box of rocks and Bledsoe who always makes the all injured first team.
Good job

[DowNY]

Assuming Bledsoe takes the QO like Greg Monroe did;

Knicks receive: Eric Bledsoe, Josh Smith & Kendrick Perkins

Pistons receive: Andrea Bargnani, Reggie Jackson & Iman Shumpert

Suns receive: Jose Calderon, Jeremy Lamb & Greg Monroe

Thunder receive: Brandon Jennings, JR Smith & rights to Thanasis Antekompo

Knicks do this to flip JR & Calderon into a defensive PF in Josh Smith that we'd need to stop Lebron. Also, Eric Bledsoe's cap hold should be cheaper than Shumpert's, which should allow us to free a few extra million of cap space next offseason. Could go over the cap to re-sign Bledsoe after a nice FA signing.

Pistons does this to get out of their long term deals. Monroe is leaving regardless. They can decide to keep Jackson & Shump if they like.

For the Suns, the same could almost be said with Bledsoe that was said for Monroe. But instead of dealing their long term deals, because they don't really have any, they decide to acquire a player with youth & potential on a rookie deal still plus an experienced PG that can start or come off the bench for them. The main prize here is obviously Greg Monroe. Same contract problem with a different team, but seems more of a fit here & probably could get a deal done come next offseason.

Thunder does this for a pure talent & experience upgrade for the playoffs. Can be a real nice scoring duo off the benh. Both players have a year left on their deals after this season. So not really any long term commitment.

This trade sucks. Calderon Smith Shumpert the rights to Thanasis and Bargnani for a package of Perkins who is a waste of space. Josh Smith pure who is just as smart as a box of rocks and Bledsoe who always makes the all injured first team.
Good job

You forgot the part where we improve at PG & PF while still gaining more cap space to sign a smart player like Marc Gasol.

[siar617]

Thats not getting better at pg or pf and we'd be worse off at sg. Don't even make this deal on 2k14 unless you want a lottery pick.

Just curious, what makes you think Bledsoe is a better pg than Calderon? Did you just mean athlete?

[legendO_Kiko]

How bout the knocks just try to trade jr so hardaway, shump, and melo all get big minutes. No way u can move area contract so they just gotta bite the bullet on that one for another yr. they really aren't that far off but jr and amare kill them

[legendO_Kiko]

Thats not getting better at pg or pf and we'd be worse off at sg. Don't even make this deal on 2k14 unless you want a lottery pick.

Just curious, what makes you think Bledsoe is a better pg than Calderon? Did you just mean athlete?

Bledsoe will be a more versatile pg but I don't think he'll ever be the shooter than Calderon is. Guy is perfect for the triangle.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

My gut feeling is that once the season begins in earnest, Phil will be reluctant to make trades in the interest of fostering a sense of security and unity within the team. Unless an offer comes up that he can't refuse, of course.

I think so too.
I think he has another move up his sleeve before the season begins....or at least I hope he does.
But once the season gets underway, that's the team he's gonna roll with unless come trade deadline we find a no brainer type deal likely centered around our expirings.

I could see (not advocating and in no particular order) being deadline targets:
1.Tyreke Evans (big guard; give him the ball)
2.Thad Young (a new Robin to Melo's Batman; discussed)
3.Andre Igudola (closest thing to a Scottie Pippen in the league as far as skill set and physical gifts)
4.Nene (Washington gonna have to start making a few decisions going forward)
5.Roy Hibbert (he's not as bad as he played this past season and he'd be ideal for the triangle)
6.Jeff Green (skill set underutilized in Boston; better target fit-wise than Rondo)
7.Corey Brewer (plus perimeter defender, serviceable on offense)

Young inexpensive "fliers" that maybe can be moved in a longer deal is included (or not):
1.Tobias Harris/Mo Harkless (Gordon playing well can make either expendable)
2.Tony Wroten (Reke-lite)
3.Thomas Robinson (big fella that needs to stop trying to play like a small fella)
4.Terrence Jones (role player as per D-12 and the bearded one)
5.Shabazz Muhammed (don't see the development minutes available for him with Wiggins and Lavine on board)
6.Alec Burks (odd man out with Trey/Kobe Jr and Hayward all in the fold)
7.MKG (will be due a raise soon, they fashion themselves as a playoff team so perhaps they think they can upgrade the position in FA 2015)
8.Dion Waiters (wants a bigger role than they probably have planned for him)
9.John Henson (depending how Sanders bounces back, maybe ol' Johnny boy can be moved in the name of backcourt help)

And if Phil is truly playing chess with these fools (hey, it's the offseason, I'm bored):

1.Demarcus Cousins: I can totally see him asking to be traded. We are friends with the Sactos as evidenced in the summer deal. Demarcus will ask to be moved. They won't keep him on the West, Chicago [everybody's favorite] plays with scared money so they won't wanna part with something or other therefore blocking a deal, Miami is loaded with long term vets so I can't see a match there, Washington has Gortat and seem quite happy with the return there, Brooklyn has no attractive [hold up, been waiting a while to say this] "pieces". He's gonna ask for a big market, no doubt. Chess, no?

2.Nerlens Noel: This draft coming is heavy on big men, they're already in tank mode so how many big guys are they gonna draft? Embiid is their centerpiece, ideally he'd be played next to a floor spacer or an animal rebounder type....lotta "ifs" in this scenario but he's a center in today's NBA, playing him behind Embiid would be a waste and an offensive disaster if paired together unless they plan on tanking 2015 too. He's gonna get traded once Embiid gets rolling. Book it. Chess, right?

3.Giannis Antetokumpo: does Mil see Parker as a small forward long term? And if so do they see the Freak as a two?
I don't doubt the ability for them to mesh well but you never know. There will be sacrifice on both parts to make it work. We playin' chess mane!!

4.Stephon Curry: the ultimate triangle guard. Does GS spend to keep all his guys around? Does Kerr get more out of this group than Jax (Mark) did? Does Steph see greener pastures elsewhere? I really don't think you can win big with both he and Klay in the backcourt. Just my opinion. Neither is a plus defender (although Klay's D is Bowen-esque compared to Steph's sieve-like play on that end) and I don't see Kerr (who was never noted for his D) getting the best out of them on defense.

5.Pau Gasol: Chi-town is notoriously cheap. Maybe they think they have a better player in Mirotic and Gasol turns out to be an awkward fit? Does he end up getting "Boozed" down the stretch of games in favor of Gibson or Mirotic? He's a moody type. I could see things not going well there.

6.Greg Monroe: maybe Detroit caves and gives him a $50M deal or something then quickly catch buyer's remorse in light of the contentious summer of 2014 negotiations. He also comes off as a moody type. I see him like Eric Gordon as he's gonna be retained likely because it's the prudent thing to do....but they don't like each other anymore. These fours ain't loyal!

[BLACKFEET 2010]

What’s far more likely is that the long rumored Amar’e Stoudemire to Philadelphia deal gets done at the deadline. The Sixers take on Stoudemire’s $23 million salary cap number, which pushes them way over the minimum. They would only owe him roughly 30 percent of his remaining contract, so they’d end up paying him $7 million in cash and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles. Flexibility in the NBA is currency – both figuratively and literally. The 76ers will likely meet the floor; they just are not incentivized in any way to do it before the trade deadline. Basketball Insiders

Rumors tagsNew York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers, Trade, Amare Stoudemire, Salary Cap
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eJtKiOdH.dpuf

[Jalen Bluntson]

What’s far more likely is that the long rumored Amar’e Stoudemire to Philadelphia deal gets done at the deadline. The Sixers take on Stoudemire’s $23 million salary cap number, which pushes them way over the minimum. They would only owe him roughly 30 percent of his remaining contract, so they’d end up paying him $7 million in cash and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles. Flexibility in the NBA is currency – both figuratively and literally. The 76ers will likely meet the floor; they just are not incentivized in any way to do it before the trade deadline. Basketball Insiders

Rumors tagsNew York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers, Trade, Amare Stoudemire, Salary Cap
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eJtKiOdH.dpuf

Though it is definitely a possibility...this quote is from an article discussing the Sixers having to reach the league minimum or split the money between their players as bonuses. They could look to take on any number of players besides Amar'e.

I think Phil will try to do a little bit more before the season starts. After that...Amar'e and Bargs go on the block. Dalembert as well if he makes it trough the small trade or 2 I assume to see PMFJ trying to put together.

I am not worried about any of it. I am not going to rack my brain trying to sort out the possibilities of players and salaries and trades and FA from next season. I will will never guess it anyway. PJ shocked the **** out of me with that DAL trade.

Let go and Let Phil!!