Jazzfan1971 and FloppyMoose's Season Preview - The T-Wolves

Post #41 » by **floppymoose** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:27 am

John Black wrote:I am hoping these roll out faster, so I can be done with the urge to click them.

Not only must you click on them, you must post to them. I command it! You have no free will in the matter.

Post #42 » by **LLcoleJ** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:29 am

floppymoose wrote:
John Black wrote:I am hoping these roll out faster, so I can be done with the urge to click them.

Not only must you click on them, you must post to them. I command it! You have no free will in the matter.

I get your sarcasm.. meh.

Post #43 » by **jazzfan1971** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:29 am

It's like a train wreck, it's hard not to look.

(or boobs or a box of kittens, depending on your preference)

Eduardo · Post #44 » by **Eduardo** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:37 am

Folks are gonna be begging me to make more prediction threads after Another effort like this

Hero · Post #45 » by **Hero** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:38 am

Projected Record - 39/43

Way over. More like 25 ish wins.

Post #46 » by **floppymoose** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:08 am

Eduardo wrote:Folks are gonna be begging me to make more prediction threads after Another effort like this

You've made one. 29 to go.

co_laper · Post #47 » by **co_laper** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:38 am

I just don't see how the Wolves can have any success offensively with the current roster.

Teams can play with 2 non shooters on the floor at the same time. This projected starting lineup has only one guy who can stretch the floor.

Post up for Pek? Nope, no spacing on the floor because no one in their right mind will even defend the 3 point line againts the Wolves.

Driving lanes for Wiggins/Martin/Rubio? Nope.. The paint will be fully packed.

Defensively they have the tools to be good with guys like Rubio, Wiggins, Corey Brewer, Pek, and Young,

In this modern day era where spacing is at it's highest value, Wolves sports a starting five with no shooting. Good luck.

AussieBuck · Post #48 » by **AussieBuck** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:23 am

Not sure how the swap of Love for Young is going to collapse the Wolves' spacing so drastically. :-?

FinnTheHuman · Post #49 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:50 am

co_laper wrote:I just don't see how the Wolves can have any success offensively with the current roster.

Teams can play with 2 non shooters on the floor at the same time. This projected starting lineup has only one guy who can stretch the floor.

Post up for Pek? Nope, no spacing on the floor because no one in their right mind will even defend the 3 point line againts the Wolves.

Driving lanes for Wiggins/Martin/Rubio? Nope.. The paint will be fully packed.

Defensively they have the tools to be good with guys like Rubio, Wiggins, Corey Brewer, Pek, and Young,

In this modern day era where spacing is at it's highest value, Wolves sports a starting five with no shooting. Good luck.

Martin spreads the floor, while Wiggins and Rubio are or should decent enough at 3pt shooting that they can keep their defenders honest. Rubio shot 33% last year from 3 which is ok. I mean, it could turn out to be the problem, but it doesn't have to.

KokoKaizer · Post #50 » by **KokoKaizer** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:51 am

Eduardo wrote:Folks are gonna be begging me to make more prediction threads after Another effort like this

I speak for myself but no, you're prediction thread was full of homerism

Foye · Post #51 » by **Foye** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:56 am

I dont think we do significantly worse because of Loves departure. But the heavy minutes for Wiggins, Lavine & Bennett will definitely cost us a few wins. 25-30 is about right.

LloydFree · Post #52 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:47 pm

The Timberwolves are probably the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the West, with a ceiling of being the 10 seed. They are nowhere near the level of the Pelicans.
I gotta believe whatever metric being used to judge these teams, is overrating perceived bench depth. The Timberwolves are essentially Rubio (league average PG) Wiggins (Raw rookie star) Pekovic (league average Center) and eleven (11) guys that would be the bench rotation players on a good team.

FinnTheHuman · Post #53 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:49 pm

LloydFree wrote:The Timberwolves are probably the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the West, with a ceiling of being the 10 seed. They are nowhere near the level of the Pelicans.
I gotta believe whatever metric being used to judge these teams, is overrating perceived bench depth. The Timberwolves are essentially Rubio (league average PG) Wiggins (Raw rookie star) Pekovic (league average Center) and eleven (11) guys that would be the bench rotation players on an good team.

Thad Young and Kevin Martin would both start on many teams or at least play the 6th man role.

LloydFree · Post #54 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:14 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:
LloydFree wrote:The Timberwolves are probably the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the West, with a ceiling of being the 10 seed. They are nowhere near the level of the Pelicans.
I gotta believe whatever metric being used to judge these teams, is overrating perceived bench depth. The Timberwolves are essentially Rubio (league average PG) Wiggins (Raw rookie star) Pekovic (league average Center) and eleven (11) guys that would be the bench rotation players on an good team.

Thad Young and Kevin Martin would both start on many teams or at least play the 6th man role.

The 6th man isn't a bench rotation player? And yes, both can start... on the worst teams in the league, they are starters.

Tetlak · Post #55 » by **Tetlak** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:15 pm

Ummm...the Wolves are winning 10+ more games than the Hornets according to you guys?

FinnTheHuman · Post #56 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:35 pm

LloydFree wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:
LloydFree wrote:The Timberwolves are probably the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the West, with a ceiling of being the 10 seed. They are nowhere near the level of the Pelicans.
I gotta believe whatever metric being used to judge these teams, is overrating perceived bench depth. The Timberwolves are essentially Rubio (league average PG) Wiggins (Raw rookie star) Pekovic (league average Center) and eleven (11) guys that would be the bench rotation players on an good team.

Thad Young and Kevin Martin would both start on many teams or at least play the 6th man role.

The 6th man isn't a bench rotation player? And yes, both can start... on the worst teams in the league, they are starters.

Thad Young is definitely a top 15 PF, which means he's a starter for at least half of teams in the nba.

Kevin Martin definitely is a top 15-20 SG in the league, which means he's also a starter for at least a third to half of teams in the nba.

Almost no team has a top 15 player at every position, so there are strong teams on which they would start easily.

And the 6th man role is just as important as the starter role if not even more, as 6th man plays almost the same minutes as starters. Take a look at Manu, Crawford, Taj.

All in all, your posts on this topic suck. Clearly you're misinformed/hating.

LloydFree · Post #57 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:59 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Thad Young and Kevin Martin would both start on many teams or at least play the 6th man role.

The 6th man isn't a bench rotation player? And yes, both can start... on the worst teams in the league, they are starters.

Thad Young is definitely a top 15 PF, which means he's a starter for at least half of teams in the nba.

Almost no team has a top 15 player at every position, so there are strong teams on which they would start easily.

All in all, your posts on this topic suck. [B]Clearly you're misinformed[b]/hating.[/quote]
I'm misinformed? If you think Thad Young is a top 15 player at that position, you really don't know what you are talking about.

1. Griffin
2. Aldridge
3. Love
4. Dirk
5. A Davis
6. Ibaka
7. Duncan
8. Milsap
9. Z Randolph
10. D West
11. Gasol
12. Faried
13. Josh Smith
14. Favors
15. Nene
16. Garnett
17. Taj Gibson

Thad Young is a bottom 10 starting PF in the league and there are probably 25 PFs better than him. There are some teams with two PFs better than him.

Post #58 » by **floppymoose** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:00 pm

Tetlak wrote:Ummm...the Wolves are winning 10+ more games than the Hornets according to you guys?

Well, it's only 6 more at the moment. Hornets at 33 wins currently (as I learn more about how many minutes players might get things can change).

FinnTheHuman · Post #59 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:32 pm

LloydFree wrote:I'm misinformed? If you think Thad Young is a top 15 player at that position, you really don't know what you are talking about.

1. Griffin
2. Aldridge
3. Love
4. Dirk
5. A Davis
6. Ibaka
7. Duncan
8. Milsap
9. Z Randolph
10. D West
11. Gasol
12. Faried
13. Josh Smith
14. Favors
15. Nene
16. Garnett
17. Taj Gibson

Thad Young is a bottom 10 starting PF in the league and there are probably 25 PFs better than him. There are some teams with two PFs better than him.

Josh Smith didn't play PF last year. Garnett lol? Clearly you didn't watch any Bos game? What you would have seen is the corpse of Garnett. Gasol is more of a C. AD will play C next to Ryan Anderson, he will only be a part time PF. Duncan also plays a lot of C. Favors, Nene, Faried, Taj are all arguable.

LloydFree · Post #60 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:10 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I'm misinformed? If you think Thad Young is a top 15 player at that position, you really don't know what you are talking about.

1. Griffin
2. Aldridge
3. Love
4. Dirk
5. A Davis
6. Ibaka
7. Duncan
8. Milsap
9. Z Randolph
10. D West
11. Gasol
12. Faried
13. Josh Smith
14. Favors
15. Nene
16. Garnett
17. Taj Gibson

Thad Young is a bottom 10 starting PF in the league and there are probably 25 PFs better than him. There are some teams with two PFs better than him.

Josh Smith didn't play PF last year. Garnett lol? Clearly you didn't watch any Bos game? What you would have seen is the corpse of Garnett. Gasol is more of a C. AD will play C next to Ryan Anderson, he will only be a part time PF. Duncan also plays a lot of C. Favors, Nene, Faried, Taj are all arguable.

Case closed. :lol: