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[EwingSweatsALot]

Lebron said hes going to lead the charge for the players to abolish max contracts. That would be terrible.

Would be terrible for everyone except the largest minority of players in the NBA. I get LeBron and other guys are worth more than they make, but there has to be a better way to handle it. It will ruin basically what everyone else makes. Though it would all but eliminate super teams unless guys take massive pay cuts. No clue how the Cavs would operate if this was a possibility.

[fatlever]

lebron on the free market makes 50 mil. rest of his teammates scrounge for the rest.

not sure how this gets passed by the players union though. there are 500 guys looking to get paid each year and only about 20 of those 500 would benefit from having no max contracts.

[HornetJail]

I actually agree with abolishing max contracts. Then the star players have to weigh their options: make a ton of money on a lesser team that can't afford to pay anyone else, or take a paycut and play for a real team. We'll find out real quick who the true winners are. Removing the max contract will greatly improve parity.

However, coming with the abolishing of max contracts, needs to be stricter cap rules, because the current cap rules would be super-simple to circumnavigate.

[Liver_Pooty]

I actually agree with abolishing max contracts. Then the star players have to weigh their options: make a ton of money on a lesser team that can't afford to pay anyone else, or take a paycut and play for a real team. We'll find out real quick who the true winners are. Removing the max contract will greatly improve parity.

However, coming with the abolishing of max contracts, needs to be stricter cap rules, because the current cap rules would be super-simple to circumnavigate.

99% of players would gladly make an extra 10-15 million a year and play for a lesser team. Big market teams like the Lakers, Knicks, etc would just be dominate. We would be screwed.

[HornetJail]

I actually agree with abolishing max contracts. Then the star players have to weigh their options: make a ton of money on a lesser team that can't afford to pay anyone else, or take a paycut and play for a real team. We'll find out real quick who the true winners are. Removing the max contract will greatly improve parity.

However, coming with the abolishing of max contracts, needs to be stricter cap rules, because the current cap rules would be super-simple to circumnavigate.

99% of players would gladly make an extra 10-15 million a year and play for a lesser team. Big market teams like the Lakers, Knicks, etc would just be dominate. We would be screwed.

Who says they'd dominate? Like I said, they would need to tighten the rules for teams paying a player $35M+. Sure LA probably gets a superstar, maybe two, but they'd have to pay A LOT more than usual to get them, by which time it's a bit difficult to put a legit supporting cast around them.

[Liver_Pooty]

I actually agree with abolishing max contracts. Then the star players have to weigh their options: make a ton of money on a lesser team that can't afford to pay anyone else, or take a paycut and play for a real team. We'll find out real quick who the true winners are. Removing the max contract will greatly improve parity.

However, coming with the abolishing of max contracts, needs to be stricter cap rules, because the current cap rules would be super-simple to circumnavigate.

99% of players would gladly make an extra 10-15 million a year and play for a lesser team. Big market teams like the Lakers, Knicks, etc would just be dominate. We would be screwed.

Who says they'd dominate? Like I said, they would need to tighten the rules for teams paying a player $35M+. Sure LA probably gets a superstar, maybe two, but they'd have to pay A LOT more than usual to get them, by which time it's a bit difficult to put a legit supporting cast around them.

Lakers and the Knicks probably pull in over 100 million dollars in revenue more than we do, probably even more than that once you figure in their tv deals and such, and we know how "awesome" our tv deals are. They could easily have a payroll like the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox of MLB while we have the salary of someone like the Twins or Athletics.

[HornetJail]

99% of players would gladly make an extra 10-15 million a year and play for a lesser team. Big market teams like the Lakers, Knicks, etc would just be dominate. We would be screwed.

Who says they'd dominate? Like I said, they would need to tighten the rules for teams paying a player $35M+. Sure LA probably gets a superstar, maybe two, but they'd have to pay A LOT more than usual to get them, by which time it's a bit difficult to put a legit supporting cast around them.

Lakers and the Knicks probably pull in over 100 million dollars in revenue more than we do, probably even more than that once you figure in their tv deals and such, and we know how "awesome" our tv deals are. They could easily have a payroll like the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox of MLB while we have the salary of someone like the Twins or Athletics.

Once again, I did say that with this idea, the cap rules would need to be adjusted so that they can't have an infinite payroll. Something similar to the hard cap they have when you use the MLE. Like if a team signs a player for more than 35% of the cap (the current max) then they are hard-capped at the luxury tax line?

[Liver_Pooty]

Who says they'd dominate? Like I said, they would need to tighten the rules for teams paying a player $35M+. Sure LA probably gets a superstar, maybe two, but they'd have to pay A LOT more than usual to get them, by which time it's a bit difficult to put a legit supporting cast around them.

Lakers and the Knicks probably pull in over 100 million dollars in revenue more than we do, probably even more than that once you figure in their tv deals and such, and we know how "awesome" our tv deals are. They could easily have a payroll like the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox of MLB while we have the salary of someone like the Twins or Athletics.

Once again, I did say that with this idea, the cap rules would need to be adjusted so that they can't have an infinite payroll. Something similar to the hard cap they have when you use the MLE. Like if a team signs a player for more than 35% of the cap (the current max) then they are hard-capped at the luxury tax line?

Ah ok. Well yeah, that would work. Players union would never agree to that though since all the Gary Neals, Hendersons, etc would get screwed out of some big time money while the few elite guys got all the coin.

[JDR720]

so glad we didn't pick him, he is made of glass and toothpicks

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/10/07/suns ... ef:nbahpts

[Liver_Pooty]

Griffins shot looks fantastic. Even drained a 3.

[Liver_Pooty]

According to an article on philly board Noel still only weighs 218, and will start at PF alongside Sims.


218 pounds.... Thats not even healthy.

[Eoghan]

so glad we didn't pick him, he is made of glass and toothpicks

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/10/07/suns ... ef:nbahpts

Hear that. Dude needs to have his bone density evaluated or something. Speaking of Bonnell, he was obsessed with Len.

[Diop]

so glad we didn't pick him, he is made of glass and toothpicks

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/10/07/suns ... ef:nbahpts

Hear that. Dude needs to have his bone density evaluated or something. Speaking of Bonnell, he was obsessed with Len.

and with T Robinson the year before that. great judge of talent.

Then he has the balls to keep mocking Charlotte's picks.

[Snidely FC]

Jeremy Pargo scored 27 for Macabi vs. BKN last night. Maybe we've got the wrong Pargo brother? (JK)

Jarring to see Luke Ridnour & Ben Gordon in ORL's box score. What was ORL thinking?

Ramon starts for SAC last night . . . but Jeff Adrien goes for 11& 4 in 15 mins for HOU proving that the real mistake in that horrid trade last spring was giving away Rocky!

Remember when people used to debate who was better, Demar DeRozen or Gerald Henderson? Ugh.

[LamarMatic7]

a cool example of how spacing can be provided if one of the bigs can make long twos. Bogut didn't know how the hell he should deal with Griffin's confident stroke from that far out.

[Diop]

I didn't see the game, but I heard a lot òf good things about griffins game.

Clippers could be good this year.

[LamarMatic7]

My two cents on the new TV deal is that I don't like the uncertainty it creates. Some teams will just luck into certain players because they'll have the cap space. Also, the potential for a two superstar team adding the third is too big for my liking. Ugh... This certainly doesn't favor us.

[JDR720]

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[HornetJail]

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Deserved. He's a pretty good coach regardless of what his roster looks like. Roy Hibbert was doing his best rookie Roy Hibbert impression for the second half of the season and they still locked up #1 with their defense. Vogel is doing something right.

[LamarMatic7]

WT: DJ Mbenga Signs with the Knicks

haha.. and we used to whine about nepotism in our franchise. Phil is bringing it to new heights.

Mbenga is one of the coolest bench warmers ever though. I loved him back when I rooted for the Lakers.

Edit: ugh... he reportedly was signed purely for being a training camp body. and here I was ready for the return of Mbenga.