Bruno Caboclo discussion thread

[rapz101]

were talking about an 0-7 team with a bunch of no names, u know why the spurs have been so good, its because they've been able to balance continuity and team development, why can't we do the same thing...regardles im not trying to make this a big issue because it really isn't a big issue, but i do think either lucas or bruno deserved to play over a bum ass landry fields, and there is no way you are going to tell me otherwise.

The Spurs didn't even play guys like Danny Green, and Cory Joseph when they were rooks/sophmores, and those guys were 21-23 years old. Bruno's 18 years old. I don't think you really have a good point with the Spurs tbh. They developed a lot of their guys slowly as well, either on the bench, or stashing in Europe till they were ready. Tony Parker is the only one that got minutes as a teenager.

Development for Bruno takes place in practice, training, watching, listening, etc... right now. Getting 5 minutes in a 40 point blowout is not development. It would do nothing for him. All it would do is give some Raps fans a little extra reason to watch the last few minutes of a blow out, that is it.

Oh and the same could be said of kyle anderson this yr i suppose?

and corey joseph atleast got to see garbage minutes...im not asking for bruno to be a main guy in the rotation, infact im not even asking for him to be familiar face on the court, i would jus think against the worst team he would atleast be active over a dude like landry, to potentially play in a game where were up 40 against arguable the worst team in the league atm....don't really understand why its so hard to get where im coming from, ppl are acting like i want bruno to be our starting SF or somethin, just free the man is all im saying.

[Hendrix]

were talking about an 0-7 team with a bunch of no names, u know why the spurs have been so good, its because they've been able to balance continuity and team development, why can't we do the same thing...regardles im not trying to make this a big issue because it really isn't a big issue, but i do think either lucas or bruno deserved to play over a bum ass landry fields, and there is no way you are going to tell me otherwise.

The Spurs didn't even play guys like Danny Green, and Cory Joseph when they were rooks/sophmores, and those guys were 21-23 years old. Bruno's 18 years old. I don't think you really have a good point with the Spurs tbh. They developed a lot of their guys slowly as well, either on the bench, or stashing in Europe till they were ready. Tony Parker is the only one that got minutes as a teenager.

Development for Bruno takes place in practice, training, watching, listening, etc... right now. Getting 5 minutes in a 40 point blowout is not development. It would do nothing for him. All it would do is give some Raps fans a little extra reason to watch the last few minutes of a blow out, that is it.

Oh and the same could be said of kyle anderson this yr i suppose?

and corey joseph atleast got to see garbage minutes...im not asking for bruno to be a main guy in the rotation, infact im not even asking for him to be familiar face on the court, i would jus think against the worst team he would atleast be active over a dude like landry, to potentially play in a game where were up 40 against arguable the worst team in the league atm....don't really understand why its so hard to get where im coming from, ppl are acting like i want bruno to be our starting SF or somethin, just free the man is all im saying.

Kyle Anderson is a skilled 21 year old coming into the league not a raw 18 year old. And Kyle has played in exactly one game that Duncan, Ginobili, and Belli all sat out of. If Bruno was a bit more developed, and 3 years older I'm sure he'd get time if Demar, Ross, and James Johnson were all sitting out a game too.

Cory Joseph was 2 years older, and more seasoned and got to see 3mpg.

I don't think the Spurs give young guys the time you think tbh. I mean, if they had an 18y/o Caboclo do you think he'd be playing at all, when guys way more seasoned and older are only getting garbage time at best?

I know it kind of sucks as a fan to see Fields get minutes, but I mean, they are human beings with personalities that need to be managed. Fields may kind of suck but it's probably better for team chemistry and what not to suit him up over an 18 y/o. If it keeps him happy, and makes no difference to Bruno, then it's probably for the best imo.

[cammac]

Bruno & Bebe shouldn't get regular minite just garbage minutes like Hayes & fields are getting. But there is no need not to have them suit up except in special occasions when veteran experience might be a asset definitely not against 76ers yesterday and Orlando Tuesday. Suiting Fields and Hayes would be more appropriate against Chicago.

Can see if Bruno getting some minutes with his 3 point shot and unorthodox windmill defense that he couldn't be a Novak type specialist in the last quarter season and just see if Bebe has back-up C potential.

[whysoserious]

man who the hell said im not happy that we've finally started off well for once...im just saying i would've LIKED to see bruno play, is that a damn crime, sheesh get a grip.

Instead of telling me to get a grip, it might be wise to reflect on what you said. You're complaining about an 18 year old raw rookie not getting PT on a first place team.

Moving on from that you mention the Spurs as an example of a team that develops talent in game but even they take their time and are very calculated with how they use rookies. As posted by Hendrix, most guys barely played. You're correlating their current PT and ability to contribute as if they were doing this in games during their early development and all of them were further along then Bruno is right now.

I acknowledged many times over that we all want to see Bruno play. BTW, I wasn't calling you out per se or anything and if you took it that way then I'll apologize.

It's just funny to me to see so many complaints about a raw 18 year old that can't get PT right now on a first place team. We've only really blown out one team in Philly. Washington we were up huge but they are a dangerous team and could get back in very quickly so I'd be very cautious in that game.

Additionally, none of us know what's going on in practice or anything right now.

[ATLTimekeeper]

The Spurs didn't even play guys like Danny Green, and Cory Joseph when they were rooks/sophmores, and those guys were 21-23 years old. Bruno's 18 years old. I don't think you really have a good point with the Spurs tbh. They developed a lot of their guys slowly as well, either on the bench, or stashing in Europe till they were ready. Tony Parker is the only one that got minutes as a teenager.

Development for Bruno takes place in practice, training, watching, listening, etc... right now. Getting 5 minutes in a 40 point blowout is not development. It would do nothing for him. All it would do is give some Raps fans a little extra reason to watch the last few minutes of a blow out, that is it.

Bruno's 19, not 18. He can play some minutes on this team and the Raptors should be looking for every opportunity to get him in games. Landry Fields won't be on this team next year and isn't going to contribute anything to this team. He shouldn't be in a uniform.

For comparison, there are 80 some odd nineteen year olds that have suited up in the NBA. It's almost a straight 40/40 split at 1000 minutes. If you look at those that played over 1000 minutes, the success rate for an NBA career is close to 90%. If you look at those that played under 1000, it's more like 50%. That's just for players that had some semblance of a role in the NBA. I think there are only like 2 players that made an all-star team getting less than a 1000 minutes as a 19 year old. So the Raptors can absolutely let Bruno learn on the bench, but they're playing long odds.

[justinmacd]

I am completely fine with how they've handled him. He knows that he's going to have to work THAT much harder to break into the lineup with this club so that will only drive him THAT much more.

Young, talented kid coming into a great culture...... sky is the limit.

[CoachJReturns]

As much as I want to see Bruno(It's not an exaggeration to say he's my favorite prospect on the team since T Mac), I would rather the team suited up Bebe. He's older and has played against better competition and most importantly, with Amir's ankle injuries, the team needs more frontcourt defense and rim protection. Put Hayes in a suit, Bebe in a uniform and play Landry a couple minutes. Let Bruno try for rookie of the year next year.

[rapz101]

man who the hell said im not happy that we've finally started off well for once...im just saying i would've LIKED to see bruno play, is that a damn crime, sheesh get a grip.

Instead of telling me to get a grip, it might be wise to reflect on what you said. You're complaining about an 18 year old raw rookie not getting PT on a first place team.

Moving on from that you mention the Spurs as an example of a team that develops talent in game but even they take their time and are very calculated with how they use rookies. As posted by Hendrix, most guys barely played. You're correlating their current PT and ability to contribute as if they were doing this in games during their early development and all of them were further along then Bruno is right now.

I acknowledged many times over that we all want to see Bruno play. BTW, I wasn't calling you out per se or anything and if you took it that way then I'll apologize.

It's just funny to me to see so many complaints about a raw 18 year old that can't get PT right now on a first place team. We've only really blown out one team in Philly. Washington we were up huge but they are a dangerous team and could get back in very quickly so I'd be very cautious in that game.

Additionally, none of us know what's going on in practice or anything right now.

And why can't we barely play bruno, the way the spurs barely played corey joseph or any of their other rooks?... And the fact that they were further along , makes it that much more important to get him garbage minutes when you can. If the games on the line, simple decision - bench him. But any on-court experience where he's playing against dudes hes never seen before, i think it bodes well for his future.

again to re-iterate what im trying to say, I do not want this guy to be on the main rotation, I would just like to see him on the court when we are up 40 against the crappiest team in the league...im fine sitting him against good competition, but when landry fields starts doing reverse double clutch lay-ups, i think its safe to say bruno could be playing too.

Not only that, but bruno could use the minutes moving forward as its a good foundation to build on. But Landry?... I'm not for ruining chemistry, but i think landry is probably the most dispensable player on this team, so like is aid its only ONE game, and im not really complaining im just bummed out that bruno wasn't suited up over a dude like Landry.

And i accept your apology, simple misunderstanding will live.

Moving forward i'd like to see him being played in garbage minutes if we ever do blowout another team.

[RapsAndJays21]

Higher than T Ross and James Johnson apparently are before every game.

[OakleyDokely]

Bruno was worth it, just for the .gif's alone.

[IMAN5]

the only thing we can discuss lately is his suits and how nice his blazers are.

[losetowin]

Not to encumber this thread with logic, but Landry gets minutes because if JJ gets injured, we might need him to step in as a defensive stopper. He needs to stay sharp. There's no scenario where Bruno steps in this year to help in any meaningful way, hence the Bruno suit watch.

[Bankai]

Higher than T Ross and James Johnson apparently are before every game.

I wonder if Terrence and James smoke together as well since they are so close...

[PHANTOMPHOENIX]

the only thing we can discuss lately is his suits and how nice his blazers are.

In that case, we need pics from each game. We need to see how his style is developing. Hopefully, it isn't two years from being two years away too.

[IMAN5]

the only thing we can discuss lately is his suits and how nice his blazers are.

In that case, we need pics from each game. We need to see how his style is developing. Hopefully, it isn't two years from being two years away too.

naw our boy Bruno is slick, the blazer and suit game is on point. Swaggy B

[Ari_Emanuel]

I'm ok with Bruno not playing right now though I was really upset Bebe didn't get some burn. We need to develop him because someone has to provide meaningful defensive minutes if we have to watch Amir's minutes all season long and into the playoffs.

[gutobr]

Man, I'm so anxious to see Bruno playing at least on D-League ... Why are they taking so long to send him there?

They said they aren't sending him there. They want full control over him- what he's exposed to, how he develops.

why don't send him with a special coach?

[mjg13]

Man, I'm so anxious to see Bruno playing at least on D-League ... Why are they taking so long to send him there?

They said they aren't sending him there. They want full control over him- what he's exposed to, how he develops.

Masai has said that Bruno and Bebe will spend time in the DLeague, it will just likely be for a game or 2 at a time like it was with Buycks last year.

[gutobr]

Man, I'm so anxious to see Bruno playing at least on D-League ... Why are they taking so long to send him there?

They said they aren't sending him there. They want full control over him- what he's exposed to, how he develops.

Masai has said that Bruno and Bebe will spend time in the DLeague, it will just likely be for a game or 2 at a time like it was with Buycks last year.

I don't see Bebe playing at d-league

Spanish League (ACB) of course is way better than d-league, and he played solid minutes there.

but for Bruno is very important, he need to play basketball games, learn and feel the game. How much games he spent with Raptors team? something like 12 games... send him down, play 5, 6 games. Later get him back again, work with Raptors some days, and send him back to d-league play more games... always accompanied by a special coach to follow the plan that the staff of Toronto wants him to follow.

that's what i think.

[gutobr]

November 11, 2014 Updates

Eric Koreen: Casey on Bruno: He’s working his behind off behind the scenes. He’s going to get some time in the D-League to develop his skills…" Twitter @ekoreen - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/toronto ... v2oLz.dpuf

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