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OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1581 » by BeesWax » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:31 am

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fatlever wrote:i'd love to see MKG on a team like the blazers. not that they are looking to get rid of batum, but MKG would totally fit there.

he'd also fit perfectly on the warriors in place of barnes.

or the clippers in place of whoever.

He would fit anywhere a coach is creative enough to adjust offense to suit the players he has as a whole. Hopefully Clifford will learn and adjust and make him useful here.


we are probably the worst fit for MKG in the league.

We are the worst fit for MKG, Lance and Kemba in the league. Our offense just grinds to a halt every trip that Al is on the floor. We need to play faster.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1582 » by Al Kidd-Walker » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:53 am

yosemiteben wrote:He's 21. We hired him his own coach and he has transformed his shot. He has arguably been our most impressive player so far this season.

I honestly can't believe this board sometimes. We start off slow and people are ready to blow up the team.

The delusion is truly amazing honestly, especially considering none of this horrible play is on him.. yesterday was his first bad game offensively now all of a sudden he wont be a Hornet next year. You'd think he was playing the exact same way he did last season.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1583 » by Al Kidd-Walker » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:59 am

Any GM that decides to trade his 21 year old second pick who is showing great improvement from a season ago and finally putting it together offensively alongside his great defense in favor of building the team around a 30 year old center who's never been the star of a successful team in his career is an idiot who deserves to be fired.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1584 » by ball teacher » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:08 am

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What is his expiration date on the Hornets in your opinion?


I think when you have a 2nd overall pick who cant finish games or even get 30 minutes a game and in his 3rd season, he's pretty expendable. If he's getting 25 minutes and only getting about 10 points and 5 boards per game by the all star break, and if we're struggling as a team, I think MKG will be the guy we look to part with before any other player or coach. Gordon Hayward was gonna be his replacement but we settled on Lance cause it seems Jordan wanted him, either way unless MKG explodes as a offensive threat I think this year will be his last as a core Hornet player.


Hmm, so you think MKG is not a Hornet next year? What will his trade value be?


IMO, for a 20 or 21 year old, already considered a borderline elite defender? As long as he continues to start, I dont see why a mid to late first round pick cant be attained. If we bench him and harp on his lack of shooting I think his value is diminished. If we approach teams trying to sell them on his many positives and just admit he doesnt with what we're trying to do offensively, I truly think we can sell high. If we let him go for peanuts and he goes to the right situation everyone here will be pissed. A mid to late first is very reasonable cause the jury is far from out on him.

Dont you think we should be able to get a very good player for, say, MKG and Hendo? Or even put Vonleh in the mix, I think we have some very desirable trade pieces.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1585 » by fatlever » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:09 am

Al Kidd-Walker wrote:Any GM that decides to trade his 21 year old second pick who is showing great improvement from a season ago and finally putting it together offensively alongside his great defense in favor of building the team around a 30 year old center who's never been the star of a successful team in his career is an idiot who deserves to be fired.


i agree with you 100%, but i wont be the least bit surprised when it happens.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1586 » by ball teacher » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:12 am

Al Kidd-Walker wrote:Any GM that decides to trade his 21 year old second pick who is showing great improvement from a season ago and finally putting it together offensively alongside his great defense in favor of building the team around a 30 year old center who's never been the star of a successful team in his career is an idiot who deserves to be fired.


If Mkg had the ability to hit one or two threes a game he'd probably get the most minutes barring foul trouble. He just doesnt fit our system sad to say.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1587 » by JDR720 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:14 am

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Al Kidd-Walker wrote:Any GM that decides to trade his 21 year old second pick who is showing great improvement from a season ago and finally putting it together offensively alongside his great defense in favor of building the team around a 30 year old center who's never been the star of a successful team in his career is an idiot who deserves to be fired.


If Mkg had the ability to hit one or two threes a game he'd probably get the most minutes barring foul trouble. He just doesnt fit our system sad to say.

He is still very young and has (at least so far) greatly improved his shot, i dont think its impossible for him to add a corner 3 with another offseason with Price
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1588 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:16 am

ball teacher wrote:
Al Kidd-Walker wrote:Any GM that decides to trade his 21 year old second pick who is showing great improvement from a season ago and finally putting it together offensively alongside his great defense in favor of building the team around a 30 year old center who's never been the star of a successful team in his career is an idiot who deserves to be fired.


If Mkg had the ability to hit one or two threes a game he'd probably get the most minutes barring foul trouble. He just doesnt fit our system sad to say.


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Post#1589 » by Tarheel11981 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:18 am

I agree with those above, we definitely need to play faster!
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1590 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:25 am

catch20two wrote:Shocking prediction, MKG is gonna be our 3rd leading scorer this season.


This one's not happening.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1591 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:27 am

catch20two wrote:Get ready for the MKG breakout season that's gonna get Mark Price a head assistant job somewhere and eventually a head coach. MKG gonna average 13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assist, 1 steal, and 1 block while helping us to a 4 or 5 seed in the playoffs. If this doesn't happen I'll blame Clifford for not giving MKG over 30 minutes a night.


He's at 9 points now. I think this one is not happening either.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1592 » by yosemiteben » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:30 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
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Al Kidd-Walker wrote:Any GM that decides to trade his 21 year old second pick who is showing great improvement from a season ago and finally putting it together offensively alongside his great defense in favor of building the team around a 30 year old center who's never been the star of a successful team in his career is an idiot who deserves to be fired.


If Mkg had the ability to hit one or two threes a game he'd probably get the most minutes barring foul trouble. He just doesnt fit our system sad to say.


You approach the MKG love dome with a sobering honesty and a boldness unseen around these parts.

We didn't have a system until we managed to get Al. Everyone assumes that because Clifford spent time with SVG that he has an irrational fixation on Al. I think Clifford is just playing the hand he was dealt.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1593 » by BlackOutBuzz » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:33 am

We're 7 six games in, he's really played 4.5 of them. I don't really think we can ascertain season averages at this point.

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1594 » by catch20two » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:38 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
catch20two wrote:Get ready for the MKG breakout season that's gonna get Mark Price a head assistant job somewhere and eventually a head coach. MKG gonna average 13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assist, 1 steal, and 1 block while helping us to a 4 or 5 seed in the playoffs. If this doesn't happen I'll blame Clifford for not giving MKG over 30 minutes a night.


He's at 9 points now. I think this one is not happening either.

We got 75 more games to go. He's our 4th leading scorer now. He just need more touches once Cliff find out that Alfense ain't gonna cut it and we need to switch to a motion offense that keep defenses more off balance.
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Post#1595 » by TheKingofSting » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:46 am

The problem with MKG is if he misses a few bunnies then he just stops shooting and moving without the ball for that matter.
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Post#1596 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:47 am

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The Charlotte Hornets lost in disappointing fashion on Sunday night to the Los Angeles Lakers, but if there was one positive to take away from the game, it was Michael Kidd-Gilchrist’s defense on Kobe Bryant.

Bryant is currently second in the league in scoring with 26.5 points per game. He is the motor that keeps these woeful Lakers chugging along, but against the Hornets he had his worst scoring output since the Lakers’ home opener. He scored a team-high 21 points on an eye-popping 20 shots, and turned the ball over four times. Much of that was Kidd-Gilchrist’s doing.

Charlotte’s third-year guard couldn’t have done a better job guarding Bryant. He was quick to close out on him on the perimeter, but not in a way that gave Bryant an open lane to the basket. He prevented him from getting good looks at 3-pointers, all the while forcing him to hold the ball until late in the shot clock. Kidd-Gilchrist didn’t bite on any of Bryant’s signature pump fakes, staying on the ground and using his long arms to contest shots. Kidd-Gilchrist fought his way through screens and moved his feet quick enough to where his body was always in front of Bryant’s, thereby not allowing him to get into the paint.

Most impressive was that Kidd-Gilchrist played much of the game without needing defensive help. By containing Bryant in isolation, it allowed the rest of his Hornet teammates to stay home on their assignments. As a result, once Kidd-Gilchrist cut off Bryant’s first option, the Lakers star had to settle for tough looks or pass it out to the perimeter for one of his teammates to make a play.

With Kidd-Gilchrist guarding him Bryant shot just 3-for-11 from the field. On most nights, that would be enough to put the Lakers to bed. On this occassion, the Hornets just couldn’t get going offensively in the second half and the Lakers were firing on all cylinders.



Even with an improved jump shot this season, Kidd-Gilchrist still has a long way to go offensively. Against the Lakers, he attempted only four shots and made just one of them, culminating in three points on the night. With Kemba Walker and Lance Stephenson not being knockdown shooters, teams can afford to pack the paint once the team’s leading scorer, Al Jefferson, has the ball on the low block. So far this season, that game plan has thrown the Hornets’ entire offense out of whack and is a big reason why they are off to a disappointing 3-4 start.

In saying that, the work Kidd-Gilchrist does on the defensive end can’t be overstated. He draws the best perimeter player on a nightly basis and does about as good of a job of containing them as anyone else in the NBA. His defensive presence will keep the Hornets in games as they try to figure out their new offensive gameplan.

At 6-foot-7, 232 lbs., Kidd-Gilchrist is a physical monster, and as we saw on Sunday night, that’s a tough combination for anyone to score against, even for a 16-time All-Star like Kobe Bryant.



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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1597 » by JDR720 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:05 am

MKG's defense is why we shouldn't trade him and why we should resign him, elite defenders don't grow on trees (especially 21 year old elite defenders with improving offense)
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Post#1598 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:06 am

JDR720 wrote:MKG's defense is why we shouldn't trade him and why we should resign him, elite defenders don't grow on trees (especially 21 year old elite defenders with improving offense)


Lol who mentioned trading him? If we trade him right now I swear Ill go become a Minnesota fan or something.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1599 » by TheKingofSting » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:50 am

While I would never be a Minnesota fan I'd be very pissed if we ever traded him.
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Post#1600 » by Elden Payton » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:15 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:MKG's defense is why we shouldn't trade him and why we should resign him, elite defenders don't grow on trees (especially 21 year old elite defenders with improving offense)


Lol who mentioned trading him? If we trade him right now I swear Ill go become a Minnesota fan or something.


It's a very Bobcats move for sure.

I know you'd never give up on this team LP but it sure would be tempting if we do something as stupid as trade our most impactful player who is 21 years old.

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