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Post#161 » by Southpaw » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:05 am

Wiggins' offense looks better than the scouts projected him to be this season. He's crafty on offense for a guy who's supposed to be a transition only scorer. We all know about his elite athleticism and explosiveness plus his top tier defense but his post play is also looking good and his jumper is smooth. Improving his handles will unlock his offense.

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Post#162 » by TWInsider » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:12 pm

Where he is right now is where i did expect him to be at this point.
I also like his development.

His handling really needs to be addressed strongly though. (And I know, to some extend, it is). He is still quite young, the sooner you address handling-problems the better.
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Post#163 » by packforfreedom » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:15 pm

19yo Wiggles is already one of the best attacking the basket from the baseline. His potential really has no limits and he's developing at a rate, I've rarely seen before. Hell, even his ballhandling improved over the last weeks, how insane is that?
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Post#164 » by C.lupus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:52 pm

That behind the back dribble he did the other night was impressive. If/when he gets to the point of doing stuff like that consistently, he will be pretty deadly on offense. It will then just be a matter of getting his man muscles.
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Post#165 » by Note30 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:22 am

This past game he put up 29. I wonder how much impact it will have for his development if he does way better than Parker this next game. I think he could really pickup the confidence to continue to be aggressive if he does well this next game.

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Post#166 » by southern wolf » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:18 am

Forgot we were playing the Bucks next. Might have to tune in to see Wiggins vs Parker.
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Post#167 » by djeros612 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:48 am

What's up with wiggins 3pt shooting ?

Seriously , I know he's not a high volume 3pt shooter but he's shooting 50% , and most of that's been without rubio ..

I know he's not going to be a 50% 3pt shooter lol but even if he falls down to the low 40s that's way better then I expected him .

Just pretty damn cool because I was sure Lavine was going to have the sweeter stroke but wiggins is very impressive.




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Post#168 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:42 am

djeros612 wrote:What's up with wiggins 3pt shooting ?

Seriously , I know he's not a high volume 3pt shooter but he's shooting 50% , and most of that's been without rubio ..

I know he's not going to be a 50% 3pt shooter lol but even if he falls down to the low 40s that's way better then I expected him .

Just pretty damn cool because I was sure Lavine was going to have the sweeter stroke but wiggins is very impressive.

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Post#169 » by djeros612 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:08 am

My bad I'm just like a kid in a candy shop right now , the dude is ridiculous.

I know I'm not the only one in saying this but as a twolf fan and being born in 91 , I grew up watching kg dominate and then .... BLAH.

Years of rookies being bust after bust , it's just really exciting to have a 19 year old kid who's starting to show that he's going to be a league dominate player ,

The only thing he's really missing to me is his handles could be better and he needs that ego and voice that leaders and stars have , but he's 19 so that's obviously not a this year thing but I would put money on it that he will develop it.

Also seems very humble and not like love in the least bit . Seems like a great kid with all the right tools to be the best and hopefully he is cause I'll go pick up season tickets .
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Post#170 » by big3_8_19_21 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:42 am

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... cial-start

David Thorpe jizzing in his pants about Wiggins. He does bring up that Wiggins needs to improve his motor offensively and defensively and that he could be getting a lot more easy buckets on race-out opportunities with his speed, but overall the ability and potential he has shown so far is mouth-watering.
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Post#171 » by Murphs56 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:48 am

Only thing I don't like about him so far is his shots that he rushes, especially his turn around jumper. However, i love his move where he gets the ball in the post, doesn't think and right away turns into the defender and puts it up
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Post#172 » by AttackTheRack » Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:50 am

Should be shooting a ton. With all the injuries, and whatever, he's the only one that has any chance of scoring consistently. Just give him the rock and let him work. The sooner he realizes he's unstoppable, the better.
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Post#173 » by Killboard » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:08 am

AttackTheRack wrote:Should be shooting a ton. With all the injuries, and whatever, he's the only one that has any chance of scoring consistently. Just give him the rock and let him work. The sooner he realizes he's unstoppable, the better.

Tonight brewe has like 5+ shots than andrew. I get the thing of Flip trying to no over play andrew or tell him to do things that will mine his confidence, but cmon, corey cant shoot a elephant in a room.
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Post#174 » by Piecake » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:19 am

AttackTheRack wrote:Should be shooting a ton. With all the injuries, and whatever, he's the only one that has any chance of scoring consistently. Just give him the rock and let him work. The sooner he realizes he's unstoppable, the better.


I think you are getting ahead of yourself. He certainly isnt unstoppable considering his rather poor efficiency and bad FT%. And he definitely isnt consistent. The only way he is going to become consistent and unstoppable is when he gets a good handle.

I do not want Wiggins shooting a ton. That will just create bad, iso chucking habits, which is not winning basketball. Wiggins and the team will be better off in the long run if its ingrained in him to make the right play all the time instead of trying to score all the time.
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Post#175 » by Killboard » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:42 am

Ok but if we have 4 starters out and no back up PG i want andrew being the first offensive option over brewer.
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Post#176 » by djeros612 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:56 am

Killboard wrote:Ok but if we have 4 starters out and no back up PG i want andrew being the first offensive option over brewer.


Yeah true but if wigs shots not falling , forcing up shots isn't really helping him , this part of the season is going to suck. It's obviously about developing but at the same time forcing up shots when your cold isn't a good thing .

I rather wigs learn when he's cold and go hard to the basket instead of chucking shots .

Rather have him learn to be efficient then start playing like a 40 year old Kobe . I think wigs was 4-14 , no reason to keep shooting .


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Post#177 » by Piecake » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:38 am

djeros612 wrote:
Killboard wrote:Ok but if we have 4 starters out and no back up PG i want andrew being the first offensive option over brewer.


Yeah true but if wigs shots not falling , forcing up shots isn't really helping him , this part of the season is going to suck. It's obviously about developing but at the same time forcing up shots when your cold isn't a good thing .

I rather wigs learn when he's cold and go hard to the basket instead of chucking shots .

Rather have him learn to be efficient then start playing like a 40 year old Kobe . I think wigs was 4-14 , no reason to keep shooting .


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He should keep shooting if he is open or can create an efficient shot off the dribble. Not shooting is just as bad as chucking up bad shots.

And just because Brewer took more shots than Wiggins does not mean that Wiggins wasn't the first option. I saw a lot more plays run for Wiggins than for Brewer. Brewer took shots because he either drove to the basket and shot/forced something up or was wide open for a jumper. You can complain about Brewer taking that shot, but he needs to take that shot. The end of the third, Brewer passed up a few open shots and it totalyl tanked our offense because those were the open shots that the offense created.

Right now, Wiggins really doesnt have the handle to reliably get to the basket. Brewer sort of does. That is basically the difference in the amount of shots. Not to mention that Brewer gets a number of shots off in transition, which is something that Wiggins does not do yet. I think it is a very misguided goal to have Wiggins to take the most shots and score the most points. The goal can be to make him the focal point of our offense and give him the responsibility to make the right plays, but he has been the focal point for the past 2 games. Personally, I think he has taken some bad shots, so I would be fine if that shot number went down. The only way he is going to be able to consistently put up a high volume of shots and still remain efficient is if he improves his handle.
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Post#178 » by Killboard » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:55 am

That "Sort of does" is what about i will die more happy with wiggins shooting step back J's than with corey drunken dribble style.
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Post#179 » by Piecake » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:17 am

Killboard wrote:That "Sort of does" is what about i will die more happy with wiggins shooting step back J's than with corey drunken dribble style.


Well, if your number one priority is Wiggins development, you shouldnt care what Brewer does. You should care if Wiggins makes the right play. Brewer chucking up bad shots does not make Wiggins worse. However, if Wiggins gets in the bad habit of chucking up bad shots that will make him worse.
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Post#180 » by Klomp » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:35 am

Wiggins needs to continue to take smart shots. If he's "shooting a ton" and just starts chucking, he'll become the next Corey Brewer. Good role player, but that's it.
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